The prince in chapter 11 (long red haired guy) reminds of Taako from The Adventure Zone. Anybody else??
I feel bad for Ms. Choi because she's getting caught up in other people's drama lol. Also, I think it's pretty rad that she had the guts to point out the potential consent issues between Director Park and Suha.
Actually~
She isn't
She's the one trying to be involved
She just tells Suha that Mr Park is a "bad guy" just because she misunderstood that past situation
Mr Park said "excuse me" and got up, she on her own free will got up and chased him
Even though she could've just sat back and waited for her father
Lol, why are you just assuming she chased after him out of "personal feelings"? They were on a business meeting, so him leaving without a proper explanation was all kinds of rude... Because, if her dad shows up and sees the other party left with no explanation, he may think she can't be trusted with important meeting as she's not being taken seriously by his business associates, either because she's too incompetent, or because she's being bullied and underestimated for being a woman in the male-dominated business world...
Agree. She’s not the most exciting character but I understand her. I’d also be super fucking annoyed if I had to do business with the Director and he decides to act like this every time.
Hold up "lol" why are *you* assuming that's what i meant?
I never said anything about her chasing after the director out of personal feelings
Anyone would've been startled and curious in a situation like that.
So they would get up and check with their own free will
Relax person.
Fair enough, I apologize for that, but saying it was simply out of curiosity isn't much better, considering other commenters are accusing her of being "nosy" and the way they are all ignoring the hard time many women have in a male-dominated field in all parts of the world. It's notsimple curiosity if it's just her trying to do her job, because it's obvious her dad, her *superior* in this case, would go to her first for an explanation... and in a field where women all over the world are still having it hard to get their talents recognized, admitting to not having an explanation for why you're being ditched like that can feel pretty humiliating.
It's fine~
But why are you taking this so seriously? This is mere fiction. Based on the story so far, she's just worried about Suha. That's why she got up. Director Park left when she mentioned Suha so she probably just thought he'd do something bad to Suha, seeing she misunderstood the previous situation
I'm just saying she's doing this on her own free will and not being dragged/caught up into anything
Lol, sorry for going all "social justice keyboard warrior" on you.
I must say some twisted so-called "feminist movements" where I live made me a bit fanatical... (just, not about "feminism" per se, but rather about the need to protect people's potential for a more authentic equal-rights activism, protecting it both from their own lapses of anti-female double-standard thinking, and from the temptations of the anti-male propaganda...)
So, yeah... dealing so much with mentally challenged so-called "feminists" (who wouldn't know the *authentic* equal-rights even if it bit them) can eventually start getting to you.
I apologize.
Thank you fo this!
Yeah it's fine. You don't have to apologize.
Your opinion is your opinion and I can't change that.
I just got offended when you said I assumed she did it on a whim of personal feelings
Actually. This made me laugh but Mr Park's grandmother also talked down on him. And it's not like Mr Park is rude to her because she's female. At first he was okay with her but then she just got in his business when she misunderstood and assumed the situation between him and Suha and he didn't like that, so he told her she was "way" out of bounds.
You're seriously treating fiction as real life, broski relax. The other person misunderstood me and we've sorted that out. Literally it's not like she's being abused or something. It's just the plot line of the manga. She's supposed to be the one who interferes and act kind of like a guardian for Suha. But no, if she were a man perhaps, it'd still be "sexist" in your terms because they'd be no females. She has a role and it's not like she's real. I'd understand if this was based on real life but it's not. It's mere fiction. Relax. All women go through tough times and in the business industry as well. It's not like they have actual feelings because it's *mere fiction*. The characters aren't real, nor were they based on real people.
I just wanna read my other manga so this will be my last comment. Don't insult someone's work when it's not even based on something real. (I'm not saying you insulted it.) But seriously, relax lol. I'm a female, I know how being criticized as a female feels. My classmates literally just assume girls aren't strong because they're "girls". But because I know this fiction and nothing else I'm not being offended by this
Preach! You spoke my mind regarding every person wanting to end a decent/logical discussion by using their last resort "it's just a fiction" lol. Have faced that too many times. You've put all the words together so good.
Yeah I'm not gonna read all these replies. Just gonna say that Ms. Choi only got "involved" to the extent that she raised concerns about consent since there's a power dynamic between Suha and Director Park (not sure if that's happened yet in the English chapters). In my book, she's cool so far.
Also btw I can tell from some of y'all's verbiage that some people in this thread are children/young teenagers. So if you're younger than around 16-17, then you should know that you're not necessarily experienced or mentally developed enough to fully understand some complex topics. I'm not trying to say that kids are dumb. When I was younger, I was pretty smart, but in retrospect there were a lot of things I misunderstood about the fiction I was consuming and its relationship to reality. So just keep that in mind.
To sump up, armchair theorizing versus actual experience.
Debates could last forever..
Thank you for this comment.ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
I don't want to say people shouldn't discuss this, buuuut I also think we don't have the whole story yet.
What I think at the moment is that the cousin's actions were wrong but that he had good intentions. And the effects of not orgasming might be worse than we think. Alternatively, the cousin could have tricked them into using the aphrodisiac so that he could take advantage of Kaede, but I sorta doubt that. Either way, I don't blame Ren for getting angry.
I want to see Shinwoo's character development. He obviously has some shit to work through.
I’m REALLY suspicious of him, since he seems sketchy (like he’s lying to try to out Yamato) but Yamato might accept because he’s scared he has feelings for Yuiji. Like as it is, he should say no just to be safe, but potentially liking Yuiji might impair his judgment ;-;
ikr? Hibino looks so twisted and I bet he is.
What is considered incest varies from culture to culture. First cousin marriages are legal in Japan (although they’ve declined recently because people are concerned about birth defects). But it’s not as deeply taboo as it is in, for example, the U.S. Obviously you don’t have to read this if you don’t want to, but do understand that from the perspective of the characters, this wouldn’t necessarily be considered straight-up incest.
I don’t get why people have to either hate him or love him. Like personally I’m kind of ambivalent about him. I don’t agree with the way he did things (it was self-serving and inconsiderate for sure) but at the same time, I was just glad he isn’t a homophobic jerk. Also I think there might be some cultural misunderstandings here? As a society South Korea is pretty homophobic, and I doubt that Chanyoung’s parents are progressives who actively taught him (against mainstream thought) to accept LGBTQ people. To put things in perspective, teachers in public schools are not legally allowed to discuss LGBTQ issues in class. (This was apparently a “compromise” with conservative groups in order to pass a bill requiring or at least allowing schools to start teaching real sex ed instead of abstinence-only. Of course, the pro-LGBTQ groups in Korea harshly criticized this.) When I was studying abroad in Korea, people were visibly Not Comfortable talking about LGBTQ issues, even if they weren’t really hateful. I even sent an email to my advisor about all the casual homophobia I witnessed there because I thought that that might be something LGBTQ students from my university would want to take into consideration before studying abroad in SK. So yeah, what Chanyoung did was not cool, but given the cultural context (and the fact that even as a child he’s compassionate enough to at least try to understand something his society generally condemns) I’m personally pretty willing to forgive him tbh.
shinji is such a cockblock lmfao