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MH blackmailed the senator that he's gonna expose him with the vid he took last time if he says anything, but TH also blackmailed him that he's gonna torture and kill his daughters if he won't tell him the truth bcs the senator was lying to TH at first (that SY is dead and he didn't see MH).
Also Taeseung's people were already there with his daughters, so yeah the senator had no choice but to tell TH everything.

You mean Taeseung didn't know that Minhyuk was the mole until the senator told him? I thought he already knew. A few chapters ago he was talking to Sang Cheol about setting a bait to catch the mole, I was curious about what was their plan.

I think Taesung was sure who the mole is, but TH still needed to know who took SY away bcs anyone could take SY away.
Now that the senator told him he knows 100% who it is.

I was a little confused. Thanks for the explanation!

You're welcomeee<3

Hi, what is mole?

A spy.

Thank you(づ￣ ³￣)づ

Yes, I wrote it too, it’s reset. It’s good for both of us. He doesn’t remember Minkyuk’s bullshit or the body at Tae’s construction site. It suits both of us. Minkyuk will have calculated that the senator will speak? In any case, this boy is always treated like a doll. But why always make him suffer like this

But even if the senator speaks, he doesn't know where Minhyuk is. I feel so bad for Soo young, both of them think of him as a possession they need to keep. They don't see him as a person. And his brain damage will eventually develop into dementia. This is depressing as fuck.

I like your comments very much, they are always objective, every time I write something about Minkyuk I pass for a fan of a rapist, but I only root for Soo Young, every time I remember that Tae combines or ignore me or do not care. I think you have to be honest and always say both visions. No one has written anything about death threats to the senator’s daughter. Is it normal?

Well we don't necessarily know the extent of his memory loss. He could've just forgotten about the construction site events and rape but still have the feeling of doubt with Taeseung that he wants to pursue. Or it could be worse and he completely forgot about certain people/everything/etc. — either way it's not my favorite trope to see (I could just watch k-dramas for that) so I'm really hoping it resolves itself in 2-3 chapters and doesn't become the focal point for season 2.

At the beginning I was rooting for Tae Seung, then I started rooting for Minhyuk and now I just root for Soo young to get away from both of them lol I think both of them are bad for him, just for different reasons.

Yeah, it's not my favorite trope either. But in this case we've seen his brain damage symptoms getting worse in the latest chapters, not just his memory, headaches, confusion, loss of consciousness, also his body seemed to get weaker. I think it's gonna play an important part, maybe later on.

Fr ! This is abuse

Oh pleeeeeease. I like Dohyun but he's the last person that should be saying this sort of stuff when it took Minhyuk attempting to rape him in the parking lot for him to realize he was in an abusive relationship with Minhyuk (don't forget those cigarettes too) .


What does he know? Nothing, he doesn't know Sooyung's masochistic side nor what they exactly did together. All he saw was just Sooyung looking exhausted (from their rough sex together). Sure, Taesung was maybe being too rough with Sooyung but he wasn't being beaten up.

Lol, what do you mean pretend. Taesung had every intention to save Sooyung. He just didn't save him earlier to make a point, that is that is what would happen if he wasn't there and that's why Sooyung should need him. Sooyung was inevitablly going to get beat up one way or another.

If anything it should be Sooyung himself that should have a say in this because he literally had a physically abusive ex boyfriend.

It's funny how in your eyes Taeseung does nothing wrong. You're exactly the kind of person op is talking about when they say that people try to justify his abusive behavior. You just proved their point lol

Blatant physical and mental abuse.

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Ay lmao this is hilarious now knowing how much you simp for Seungho even tho Seungho was way more abusive both physically and mentally. So much hypocricy (⌒▽⌒)

Didn't it take sooyoung to literally get hit by his ex for him to realize he was away treating him bad like if taesung put his hands on him wouldn't he be like oh shit he was away treating me bad

If I recall correctly, didn't Sooyung try to leave his ex that's why he was raped and hit by him in the first place?

Sooyung ain't stupid. Taesung is only rough to him in bed but that's just it. Taesung doesnt treat Sooyung as badly as his ex. He feels loved and he wants to like Taesung and so he stays.

Yep, just double-checked it right now. Chapter 9-10. At that point their relationship was already rocky but his ex has never hit him yet. After, his ex confronted Sooyung and accused Sooyung of spreading his legs to other men, Sooyung got offended and slaps his ex. His ex hits him back. Sooyung is so shocked because although his ex was rough in bed, he has never hit him before. Chapter 10 is where Sooyung gets beaten by his ex and they beat each other up and Sooyung escapes. That was when they truly broke up.

Your reasoning makes no sense. Open your eyes, Its clearly abuse. There isn't one chapter where Sooyoung told him it was okay to hit him and stuff. Search up abuse b4 you rant on a here justifying a whole rapist

Bitch what the fuck are you talking about. In that reply I was talking about his ex that beat him up. I didn't say anything about Sooyung being okay with being hit, that's like the reason why he completely left his ex in the first place. Are you blind???

HELPPP BC I SAW YOU JUSTIFY HIM GIRL. Lemme reread bc

THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. THE MAN FUCKING BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM AND YOURE SAYING "he roughed him up". BITCH GET A FUCKING GRIP

Precisely because Dong Hyun knows firsthand what it's like to be abused he decided to help SY.
He wasn't just exhausted, he was battered up. He even fell to the ground when he was trying to get out of bed after having rested.
Taeseung was determined to get SY seriously injured just to make him depend on him. He said as much to Sang Cheol. Even after seeing SY stabbed he got mad at his men for intervening. He let SY believe that he saved him when if it wasn't for Sang Cheol and Minhyuk he would be dead.
You're trying so hard to make Tae Seung look like a nice guy, it's not working, HE'S A GANGSTER.

How could he make a conscious decision when their whole relationship is based on lies and manipulation?

Not you trying to dig up dirt on me just because I criticized your favorite character! Lol It must have taken you a long time to look through all my comments since I haven't made a comment about Seungho in the last three months.
Where's the hypocrisy?
I've never denied that Seungho was abusive, that's the difference between you and me.
I don't have a problem with people simping for Tae Seung, I'm guilty of simping for way too many fictional criminals. The problem is when people try to justify their wrongdoings and deny that these characters are abusers when in this particular manhwa the abuse is not subtle at all.

"because I criticized your favorite character!"

Taesung's hardly my favorite character lol.

"Lol It must have taken you a long time to look through all my comments"

Not really. It's literally just on the second oldest page lolololol. And there's like a loooot of them. It's hard to miss.

"Where's the hypocrisy?"

Uhh you whining about people justifying Taesung's actions why you're basically justifying Seungho's actions?

A pot calling the kettle black. Lol, sure beyb.

Lol, guuurl calm yo tits.

Ah, he can make a conscious decision because he's not retarded, hello? I think you wanted to say how he can he make the right decisions, lol.

So like the similar thing with Seungho and Nakyum as well?

I've never justified Seungho's actions. Not even once. You're just trolling lol

If you don't know what "Conscious decision" means, look it up.
Nothing you say makes sense. It seems that you're just a troll. I can see now why other people are blocking you. Block and report. So you stop annoying those of us that are here for mature discussion.

Just because dong huyn says it doesn't mean author meant it . It is just an opinion of a character who knows nothing about the main couple.
Taesung is possessive and insecure when it comes to sooyoung that is why he hides his past. He didn't beat sooyoung, kang il did . Taesung knew it was gonna happen but he arrived late on purpose because he wanted sooyoung to know what it feels like to get hurt intentionally ( remember that sooyoung likes to get punch-drunk as the doctor said)
This is not sexual abuse . It's consensual

That doesn't contradicting anything you said. Laughing at you, not with you LMAO

"remember that sooyoung likes to get punch-drunk as the doctor said"
Apparently you don't know what "punch drunk syndrome" is. It's a condition seen in boxers caused by repeated blows to the head. Basically the doctor said that his brain is damaged and he should take care of himself because it will get worse.

I wasn't clear enough. If you look at sooyoung first meeting with taesung ,where sooyoung beats the shot out of taesung, you will notice that sooyoung ,throughout his life, has been struggling and punching as if punching the air, and he invites being punched and getting hurt. An example would be when first taesung brought him to his office and some hooligans just tried to beat sooyoung . Minhuyk was shocked at sooyoung's resilience. Not only his brain is damaged but he also doesn't care about getting more injured since it was his way of coping with his abusive father

If he likes getting punched, why did he say at the beginning 'I kept getting beaten wondering when it would end' and why did he run away from his ex after he punched him for the first time?

so hes a creep greeeaaatttt.

Actually Jin was said to be obsessed with this man in Ch8. But Jin was betrayed by this man, the one he was probably in love with.

Really? I thought the guy was the one obsessed with Jin.

According to what Jin's entourages talked about his business and his past in Ch9, Jin was used and betrayed by certain rats. Combined with what I learn from the elevator conversation (a guy said Jin was obsessed with his boss) in Ch8, I believe Jin was used by his ex lover/sex partner aka the boss of a rival company, who showed up in the last panel in Ch17.

That makes sense. Thanks!

Oh thank you!

wait he is being abused? i thought it is just another rough sex?

I meant to like, sorry

It's ok!

Seriously though. The author is not romanticizing to abuse. They know TS is being abusive and had to spell it out for the readers! TS is 100% an abusive prick and people shouldn't be defending him.