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ma r we reading the same thing? Mans is actively communicating with jooin and ASKING FOR HIS CONSENT for things to go further. He doesn’t give any chances for jooin to misunderstand his intentions

Crossing WWhaaaat!! He just asked for permission while yahwi literally raped him(⊙…⊙ )

girl i know damn well you're not comparing YAWHI RAPING JOOIN WHILE HE WAS DRUNK to cain KISSING JOOINS WRIST????????????? literally mental illness luv!!! get yourself checked!!

"i hate the cain stans that hate on yawhi without valid reasons" RAPING SOMEONE ISNT A VALID REASON TO HATE THEM??? girl bye!!!

He's weird but not as much as yawhi. Youre probobly a 12year-old girl who likes toxic relationships until theyre in a relationship like this. Cain never forced him into smt but yawhi treated him like shit . Don't even try saying 'hE cHaGEd' no he didn't. He has nothing to do with jooin rn but he is still jealous, why because he doesn't want to share jooin.He definitely doesn't love or like jooin he just doesn't want to lose what was 'his' . He acts like a kid who doesn't want to share his toy.

crossing boundries? mf just kissed him to give him a pill, kissed him on the wrist, and he also asked for jooins permission. yahwi on the other hand….i

BOBO KA DI MO ALAM MAGBASA??!! HUNGHANG

oooo they is eating you up LMAO deserved tbh

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you’re deff a surface reader, cain literally crossed boundaries so many times and yeah yahwi did too i never said he didn’t AND YES HE IS CHANGING you gotta look into the depth of his character to understand him. “doesnt love or like jooin” ?????? that’s just proof you don’t get his character in the slightest yahwi has troubles w his emotions if you even cares to understand he had no parents growing up that’s can affect a child’s life. (: and with cain there’s no character development he’s just stuck on a unrealistic past if ur mad abt that ur apart of the problem.

that’s cute, go cry LMAOO

jooin said stop to cain so many times and i never said yahwi didn’t but he’s literally going through character development i hope you know that cain literally had dirty dreams of jooin.

i never said it wasn’t ong, raping someone IS a valid reason but that’s not what i was implying hating on someone’s character because they can’t express emotions BECAUSE of child trauma isn’t a valid reason to hate someone that’s just people being plain ignorant. i’ve said this sm times to the others but he’s going through development slowly and you all are stuck on a chapter around the start of the series. that’s what you call ignorant.

girl stfu!! i quoted exactly wtf you said, don't be over here trying to change the context of your words. you meant what you said & the only reason you're doing all this extra with the explaining is because we're all getting on your ass LMAO. girl just take a break and learn to think before you take time out of your day to write a sorry ass comment feeling sorry for a terrible character who RAPED SOMEONE

and jooin literally REJECTED him that means no at the end of the day jooin can’t process what was happening he was literally pinned to a wall and cain kept asking him. ——- cain was implying that jooin can’t go out with yahwi because of his crush on sum unrealistic past, that’s weird af and rude to tell someone you can’t do this because they like you it’s one sided jooin doesn’t like him and ppl know at the end he still likes yahwi so there’s no point for people to be fighting over yahwi being with jooin.. (:

sit down and lower ur text jesus christ if you didn’t know what i meant then don’t be getting pressed, i NEVER mentioned raping someone wasn’t a valid reason if i did pull it up because i know what i said i know what i meant in that sentence if you were mad about that sentence YOU are the problem. + it’s disgusting to rape someone but you’re literally stuck on a past chapter go read something else.

so by your logic, since it happened in the past, i should forget about it?? LMAOO your mind is something else... & you know damn well the main reason people hate yawhi is because he raped jooin, so just because you didn't EXPLICITLY say that raping jooin isn't a valid reason to hate yawhi, doesn't mean that it's not what you implied.

are u srsly comparing rape to a dirty dream..

oh,youre telling me i dont understand yawhi's emotions wtf. No, you dont understand cain. When yawhi raped jooin and gave him money for sex, its okay because he has trauma but when cain kiss his wrist its not okay im not a surface reader. Traumas can not be a excuse for anything illegal like rape, murder . Cain never forced jooin into anything he litterly just kissed him once on the lips once on the wrist, what did yawhi do RAPE.Aand im not saying cain is the best person ever but jooin litterly never resist against cain but definitely did to yawhi. He didnt chage you can fool yourself but not us. There is no reason why would people support that kind of character there is some options ofc 1youre a child 2youre an idiot 3youre the same with him

is this satire

are you seriously stuck on a chapter from the beginning.

calling me an idiot and assuming i’m a child won’t get you nowhere it’s irrelevant to insult me because you have nothing else to say. first off rape is disgusting it always will be but if you don’t know i’ll tell you, people can change and always can, jooin can give him another chance it’s not up to you. yahwi is going through character development you gotta look into the depth of his character to understand him, trauma is A VALID REASON, saying it’s not makes you just as a disgusting person as ‘i am’ trauma can do so much to someone’s life and you probably haven’t gone through a child trauma if you’re saying that, as a person that has you make other people feel invalidated and it’s gross. if you’re seriously still going off about a chapter from the start you need to move on and read something else then, i’m not saying you have to forget the rape or ignore it because i also do not and think it’s gross did you ever realize jooin came back to yahwi again for sex? cain is stuck on a unrealistic past of jooin and him at the end of the day cain isn’t amazing and so kind he literally had dreams of him a jooin having sex, wanting jooin not to meet up with yahwi is really controlling and rude af. cain is kind but he stuck on something unrealistic and not anything present it’s one sided if anything. but also calling me the same as yahwi isn’t even bad, so stop being so rude.

Wow your reasons are mind blowing,ok if i like someone of course i would have dirty dreams about them I'm not harming them or raping them it's a dream and it's out if my control and okay yahwi is going through character development but he is still trying to force his feelings in jooin,and if i go by your way of thinking that the rape thing was in the past chapters then cain kiss darling don't compare dirty dream and kiss with rape please it's disgusting,and about the thing that jooin went to yahwi for sex acutely i think that jooin thought what happened was all a dream.. girl if you like a character don't try to change facts and justicying their bad actions say you like it and no one will judge you, and yeah i had a child trauma and was child abused but never used those reasons to explain myself if i did something wrong it Doesn't give me the right to do bad things to people

what are you talking abt you sound dumb GOOFY LMAOAO

RIGHT?!?!

RIGHT?!?!

Um excuse me it's not just one chapter, it's Many chapters. Pretty much throughout the entire time Jooin was "with" Yahwi he was either verbally and physically abusive, manipulative, gaslighting, toxic, distant, cold, etc. Jooin was pretty much trying to do everything and the only one that had any serious feelings. But the abusive one knew about his feelings and just disregarded them, still treated him like shit. Jooin even told Cain that his heart had been broken over and over. Yahwi was literally hurting him and he didnt even care because he wasnt aware of it at all, while Cain was aware of it. So, Yahwi being a toxic asshole is pretty much portrayed throughout a big amount of the story, not just one chapter. That one chapter that people are referring to is actually where it all started, and where I personally began to not like him anymore either. It's not the only reason why I don't like him though, I began to dislike him more and more the more he would continuously treat Jooin like shit because I'm not a sadist. I dont find watching characters being in abusive relationships entertaining in the slightest, regardless if the abusive character needs character development or not.

PREACH

you sound dumb with no explanation don’t think ur all that

if you clearly went ‘through a child trauma’ then you should understand how hard it can change a life if you know he was toxic then don’t be thinking he’s doing it on purpose bc that sounds dumb af on ur part, and if you don’t know jooin rejected cain so why did he have literally sex dreams that’s weird af if someone rejected you why would you still proceed to chase after them, this goes vice versa honestly cain and yahwi need to find better ppl because this love triangle makes no sense.

most of those reasons ‘toxic, cold, distant’ speaks more to the point he grew up with a child trauma i hope you know he had one and it affected his life not everyone grows up to be happy and kind and don’t think he was doing it on purpose because you’re gonna sound uneducated. choosing to ignore and avoid his character going through development explains how ignorant you are at the end of the day none of yahwi and cain should be w jooin and should find better people because cain is stuck on a unrealistic past, yahwi is traumatized and needs someone to understand his personality.

Yes, Yahwi is traumatized, but his actions and behaviors are still inexusable. Like he's 24 with access to the internet, if he still hasn't figured out how to treat people with respect and kindness or that he can learn how to do so, maybe the real ignorant one is Yahwi because the information is literally a google search away (as Jooin has proved in the very beginning of the story when he was wondering if he was gay) I'm just saying. This story has two optional characters for the protag. As being someone who reads BL/yaoi for romance while doing my best to avoid the stories that don't have consent in them, while also not wanting to see the protag experience toxicity and abuse, why would I not ignore and avoid Yahwi’s character? Why should I force myself to pay attention to a character that literally grosses me out because of how much I personally don’t like to see or hear when people are abusive and toxic to others, while sexually taking advantage of them, and gaslighting, etc - which is everything that Yahwi has done? I also am not a fan of manipulation whatsoever. That doesn’t mean that I don’t want Yahwi to heal, either, though, as I believe that anyone who experiences any form of trauma does deserve to heal. That doesn’t make me ignorant, as I am someone who is fully aware of both Cain and Yahwi’s actions and would rather support Cain and not Yahwi because of how many times Yahwi has crossed the line, hurt Jooin and broken Jooin’s heart multiple times, while Cain has always been gentle and has always treated Jooin with respect and kindness. So, yeah when given the choice between the two, I choose to give my focus to the one that's treating the protag with respect and kindness. Regardless of Yahwi's backstory, what he's done is beyond not okay and toxicity and abuse doesn't suddenly become "cute" or "tolerable" or "exusable" just because a character is "attractive with a traumatic past." It would be different if he were at least a lot similar to Ahjuicy from Dangerous Convenience Store, but Yahwi's character is so far away from Ahjuicy, as the writers have made him do many inexusable and (potentially) triggering things that Ahjuicy would never do. I firmly believe that abuse is not something that should be romanticized because of how emotionally damaging and serious the effects of it can be to someone's health - fictional or not.

I cant help but disagree. Yawhi has shown from the beginning that he tends to force his feelings onto others regardless of the other person's feelings. Even now, he's had little development and even if his feelings are "genuine", he still forces his thoughts into Jooin and has been causing more harm than good.

Personally, I think Jooin just needs some time off from both Cain and Yawhi. Jooin is the one that needs more development at the moment and I don't really think he's emotionally or mentally stable enough to deal with either of them, especially Yawhi. Just my opinion

totally agree girl. yawhi is always forcing himself into jooin's life. like chill bro, its quite manipulative if you ask me

This is the perfect statement! I totally agree with with you!

I don’t want to be rude and all and I sorta agree with what you said but I’ve also been thinking that Yahwi should have still learnt some things from the outside world apart from his family. I know he is still quite closed off to people but as you can see in school he still hangs out with his classmates a lot and learning from the world isn’t a hard thing to do. I’m not saying that his character development is extremely bad it’s just that everything that happened to him regarding his family has nothing to do with the things he sees on the internet or what he experiences in the outside world. Being closed off won’t stop you from learning and I say this from personal experience. Since I was in elementary school or when I started to know what’s going around me I’ve been closed off because of my father. He had an affair so I have a half brother and all so I developed trust issues. My mom also had these issues which affected me but I still learned from the things I see online and in school. It is honestly common sense to not do a person that is drunk. That is from the past of the story so I won’t dig to deep into that but even if you have trauma or have gone through things from when you were young, you would still have common sense. Learning what’s right and wrong is something everyone will learn with it without a adult figure to help them. The world is bad and harsh but you will still learn from it. it’s all part of maturing. Like others I do believe it would be better for Jooin to remain single or find someone else completely.

agreed, but like you said what yahwi did to jooin was in the past speaking around the start he is changing slowly people just have to look more deeper into his character (:

Yup. People really shouldn’t hate Yahwi even if they like Cain better. He is changing and for now that is all that matters. I personally still do prefer Cain over Yahwi but I don’t hate Yahwi

everything you just said was completely correct

People hate the right to hate Yahwi. He raped someone and did 4 other horrible things to Jooin. It doesn’t matter if he has changed. What he did is unforgettable and unforgivable

same with cain if you bring up yahwi like that, cain crossed his boundaries many times when jooin said stop several times wouldn’t you think that’s rude of someone? Jooin doesn’t even know who Cain is he just saw him and Cain harassed him so this goes vice versa with Yahwi but you don’t see any change in Cain.