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It was pretty clear from the beginning that both Jun and Yeonwoo were not only crazy but also murderers. People keep mentioning how its such a crazy twist out of nowhere and I'm just wondering what are people reading if they never saw that happening?
I don't know...I don't really care for their characters as the author has not shown much of their personality...just a lot of fucking. You have to make us care for them beyond just them being "hot". Both are irredeemable and unlikeable characters with Jun being a pushover who shows psychotic tendencies and having the personality of a sex toy bc all he does is get fucked while Yeonwoo is your stereotypical, buff, aloof, mysterious male lead who could just be a penis bc he had nothing to say throughout the 50 chapters.
I get that the professor did some questionable things but I don't know..I feel the author is simply making him seem so bad just to make Yeonwoo and Jun look better. Like....uhhh SIR.. Yeonwoo MURDERED innocent people while Jun clearly murdered people and also is only "good" bc he lost his memories. The professor SIMPLY gave a new life to an orphan (iffy here but still raised Jun) AND only committed adultery with Yeonwoo's aunt. BROOO not the SAME thing and nowhere near as bad as what our main characters did. No amount of "tragic backstory" can redeem or save Yeonwoo's character.
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I very much agree with anonymous who said rape scenes grab attention and sells. I feel this relates to Fantasy rape whereby when it is in a fiction story and presented in such a romanticized way, people are completely fine with and in fact enjoy. I do understand how so many people are upset bc it could influence readers to copy this behavior in real life but that is something that is bound to happen or not happen depending on the person. Similarly to violent video games, does it increase violence or not? Nobody really knows. It depends on the person.
Besides that, I think in this case it was completely fine and I did think "Woah what're you doing?!?" But clearly the uke enjoyed it somewhat and although he was more forceful, he was more shocked than anything. There are some mangas that do way worse than just rape and in fact constantly use it to further the relationship and build on the toxic bond that when challenged completely crumbles bc all that linked them was forceful rape/sex and a flimsy ass confession.
That said, people have to stop calling others names for liking this shit because its straight up fantasy rape. It is different from real actual rape and I don't think anybody condones that. Fantasy rape is a fantasy LOL. It's in a person's imagination where they're ok with the domination, man-handling, roughness etc. But in the imagination, you could stop whenever you want to unlike actual rape. So tying this to actual rape is not realistic nor fair.
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This manhwa has been FULL of people getting the brains and shit fucked out of them. Heck they fuck each other so hard, mental illnesses disappear into thin air and for some reason the transference of communication is through semen and lots of it.
Where are the people who said, "iT tAKes TIme to ChANge". I LOVE how the author thought she tried something by having Chowon say, "You can't expect me to change overnight...my medication isn't working" BRUH WHERE-WHERE is the CHANGE...she calling her audience out as if she changed him or gave him decent character development. AND if your medication not working..IDK speak to your doctor about CHANGING it? Same thing happened with the others...
Dojin and Hyesung: "You HaTE me? FINE I'll fuck the the shit out of you and magically my semen will make you lOVe me" (at least we're still better than Chowon and Kyungsoo)
Kungsoo and Chowon: You got issues such as obsession and have committed multiple crimes against innocent people and ONLY apologized for it without ever having to have any consequences? Bruh who cares? You're fucking gorgeous. Hell YEA I'll fuck you so hard it looks like I'm shitting in you.
Dojun and Heesoo: Ummm...no we--we don't partake in fucking our problems away...wait ...wHAt?!? the other couples have been fucking instead of communicating?......oooook BYE
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I mean the concept is interesting but I feel the author really banks on this mystery that she's dragged on for ages and then when we find out what is it, it really won't be all that amazing. It sort of annoying that the uke is so stupid and says, "Don't lie to me" and proceed to just accept his answer which wasn't even an answer. Then apparently they fuck the next chapter so like he really is DUMB bc you got your 'boyfriend' who's very crazy and lies to your face and you go YEA but his dick good. The plot is really meh. I can already see the plotholes before she reveals the 'secret'.
And yea some ppl might reply, "WHy are yOu ReADinG iT thEn?" Well because I want to see if it improves and is even worth it till the end. I wouldn't know if I didn't read it...DUH
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I do agree with some of ur points now that they've been put into words, but trying to counter other peoples opinion by saying why do you guys like this so much? Is unessacary. But honestly I do think we're just used mediocrity in this genre (that we've normalized and enabled) that we when see an ounce of thought or a concept that doesn't revolves around just sex being put into a story we hop on the bandwagon and overhype it. But reading ur points, I do agree.
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it's not being dumb its all about psychologia and manipulation, the uke was overwhelmed by childhood trauma that he forgot, i think he suffer from ptsd or something like that, he constantly feel empty and need to keep people by his side to feel stable and he find the person who made him feel stable and happy so of course he want to stay by his side, its hard to doubt the person you love and the person who help you to feel "normal", the top is manipulating him
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I wouldn't say my question of why do you guys like this so much is unnecessary. The comment section is for that purpose. My thought process was just to put a thought provoking 'title' to it and I always question why a series is popular and not just popular just bc but bc lots of readers praise it for having great plot/writing ever. You also mentioned it doesn't revolve around sex and I disagree pointing to the immense amount of comments about how good his D is or how big it is. Not to mention the fact that the whole series, they been fucking left and right (as I suspect) to hold off on revealing the mystery and give tension. The author seems to be creating tension and buildup when really she's doing a poor job of building tension when its just sex every few chapters and a small small tiny hint of the hands doing something. I mean we're 40 chapters in and nobody has an clue to what these hands are and sure that's fine but to build tension, you gotta give us good enough meaningful hints.
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EHH you say its all about psychology and manipulation, which I can see to a certain degree but isn't the uke in school with some type of uniform training to be police of some sort? (I might be totally wrong) but boy can't question anything? I went back to look for what he does and realized wait bruh Yeonwoo was the one who wrote the book Evaporation and then the author refers back to it ONCE just recently and I'm just seeing multiple moments in the first 10 chapters that really aren't memorable enough that even I someone who tends to remember things, completely forgot. The hands doing sexual things to the uke, Yeonwoo being the author, etc.
It so easy for an author to say its psychological without doing anything that really taps into that field. We don't know if the hands are real or a hallucination so I wouldn't call it psychological as I don't see much psychological about it. Sure Yeonwoo is gaslighting him a bit, author hints at it being psychological and there's hallucinations and "trauma". Over the course of 40 chapters, she sometimes emphasizes his trauma but most of it is left in the background. The hallucinations are probably real hands and its some magic psychic powers they have. NOW THAT would be called supernatural or fantasy, not psychological. I really doubt its actual psychological reasons to it. And even if she is doing a psychological theme, she's not doing a very good job. My point is you can't just string together some psychological elements and then call it a great plot. That's the kicker. People automatically assume the plot is great bc the work is "psychological" when really its HOW you execute it.
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He's CHaNGeD....yea suuure. This is what happens when you gloss over development. Author keeps one of two tactics which is either gloss over the development with some words and narration aka quoted from Kyungsoo, "He's changing little by little". Maybe she should idk...SHOW don't TELL. OR she glosses it over by just having the characters fuck each other. It'll fuck all the shitty actions out of him AND give some readers' some lack of post-nut clarity at least temporarily. Oh wait I forgot one more technique, which is the "use your lover to fix you" trope. Sure surrounding yourself with good people who can support you is great but not if you're making them bend to your every need and treating them like a punching bag. Apparently according to lots of readers, he's ChANgEd they said, he's gotten chArACtER DeVeLoPmEnT.....they said.
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Was expecting SOMETHING considering people's comments about how its sad and dark. I mean technically it was sad and dark because of suicide and rape but very poorly written. It seems the author was trying a Romeo and Juliet thing with the suicide but failed terribly at making even me, a super emotional person, feel no emotion at all for the characters. The characters might as well have been dolls because of how much personality they lacked. This was so dumb and pointless.
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Stumbled upon this and read 9 chapters or so. It just seems so depressing? I skimmed the recent chapters and saw its basically more complicated with everyone cheating on everyone. Also I don't have time atm to read it but just wondering everybody's opinion after reading to the most recent chapters.
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If you’re into agonizing drama with some insufferable characters then this is your speed.
MC isn’t bad neither is the black haired dude, you a lot feel for them.
Her husband can choke on his own dick
Niina(black haired dude) wife is frustrating as all hell
The four eyes glasses chick is annoying af and should go after single men
The rest of the cast exist
The true hero of this manga is a divorce lawyer
╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭just my personal thoughts
I read the novel originally a while back and found this a few years after the fact. I have to say the manga does gloss over a lot of details in the book and doesn't seem to totally capture the mate bond between Chay and Keaton. I don't know...I just don't find it detailed enough. It's too fast paced to the point that their interactions seem really meaningless. This is omegaverse btw, so I found it odd that other omegaverse mangas represented the mater bond better. The novel itself wasn't a masterpiece either but the concept was good, with some "problems/plotholes".
I also just heard that J.L Langley, the author is retiring but tbh not too sad considering she has prob had writer's block for quite a while with her last book in this series being in 2011 and her announcement of being 70% finished with the most recent in 2017. Girl has not finished any of the books she planned for this series for quite the time now.
Anyway, hopefully, the rest of the chapters delve more into it but that's my rant/review for the day.
Where can I read the novel?
I found it a long time ago by searching the name of the novel and author and "epub" behind it, then downloaded it through my phone. Idk how safe this is and whatnot but it worked for me.