itallstartedwithwmmap March 22, 2025 7:29 am

can you guys just like read a little deeper into why the FL is even acting this way towards Roger rather than just taking it at face value that she’s an idiot and thinking there is a simple solution where she is just honest with him and they live happily ever after? like home girl was thrown into this game, she had this vain hope of escape just to hold onto her sanity, she had NO ONE to trust, and she also was living with the fact that every single person in this fantasy world wants to rape her basically. she is terrified, and the one person she could lean on and felt genuine affection for, she basically killed his mom (yeah she didn’t want to and no it wasn’t her fault but objectively the mom wouldn’t have died if she wasn’t affected by the FL’s charm + now we know the FL’s dad set the fire, who is also subjected to her charm, so she kinda double caused Roger’s mom’s death LOL). the FL is so terrified of her own ability that she knows Roger would forgive the FL (whether that’s through his own thought or under her influence) that she can only push him away. I personally would feel disgusted if I had the ability to force someone to love me even after I caused their mom’s death. the FL, who is just a normal person irl, has seen so much death and violence that she doesn’t want to affect the person she loves with it. imagine if you killed the mom of the person you loved, they forgive you, and then you drive your lover to their death EVEN IF ITS NOT YOUR FAULT THEN IT STILL HAPPENS REGARDLESS. aside from protecting Roger, then she’s also protecting herself, because she would completely break and lose her mind if she had to be the cause of Roger’s suffering. it’s a lot easier for her to cope with ruining his life if he hates her than still loving her despite everything she’s done to him. I don’t think it’s about her ruining his life and then not taking responsibility, but rather doing what’s within her own power to prevent herself from corrupting Roger even further by driving him away (but it’s dramatic irony because she doesn’t know how this just made him more obsessed and only we the audience know). basically our home girl can’t win in any situation so please don’t be so judgmental

    Lolololu March 22, 2025 1:09 pm

    I also don't get why they hate the FL. I really like an FL that has weakness and is not perfect with anything. I understand why she's acting like that so I cannot really hate her. We cannot just judge a story based on how you feel towards a character.

    Poppingcandy2 March 22, 2025 3:53 pm

    LITERALLY OMG!! They rlly don’t care about the circumstances of the fl and only pity the men in the story like….it rlly pisses me off and it’s not only for this manhwa but others too…always disregarding what the FL is going through and the reasons why she makes such choices and bashing her for not treating the men the way readers want her to treat him/them…..always have something to say about FL when all her actions are valid…just say you read with your eyes closed or perhaps you’re just misogynistic.. I might get jumped for it but these people really give me that vibe…always too focused on the male characters in the manhwa while completely ignoring what FL is going through which results in the way she acts… she isn’t even treating that guy badly like these weirdos are saying and he clearly doesn’t gaf they dtm for nothing lmfaooo like he clearly likes it!

    Rengoku is Daddy March 24, 2025 6:36 pm

    This!!!
    Rogers whole reason for leaving the Holy Knights and returning home was ultimately for his mother's sake too! That's literally why he accepted her proposal, and then she indirectly caused his mother's death. And she knows the crown prince is going to torment her and Roger for the rest of their lives, she loves him and wants to spare him from all the shit that is following her. "When you love something, let it go" she knows she's not what's best for him. People are really struggling to grasp her logic

itallstartedwithwmmap February 17, 2025 1:43 am

am I just a horrible person who only cares about appearances bc she is giving side character with her middle part bangs and average looks lmaoo I’m sorry I cannot believe that she has two extremely powerful people proposing to her at once when she isn’t that remarkable or pretty

itallstartedwithwmmap February 16, 2025 4:34 pm

why is it in this manhwa the emperor and Duke are SO weak as in no authority, can’t protect one person, and somehow people are able to sneak into the FL’s room and almost kidnap her but it’s only bc of her own strength that she is able to protect herself. these people are literally there for decoration bc how is it in other manhwas those two figures are always so strong but here they can’t do anything at all this is so frustrating bc even the Duke is better than the emperor but they’re both horrible at protecting the FL. and the author is trying to frame the emperor as right intentions with incorrect methods and I hate that

    sandy February 16, 2025 7:54 pm

    Yup right on, what i hate is that they keep wanting to stick to law to punish the empress, spewing "no definitive proof". Literally just stealth assinate that b and punish/kill off the opposition faction from empress who dares protest or accuse -- cuz they dont have definitive proof either. Tyranny is very much within the capability of a king and no one can do shit. We wont have a ton of chs and heart tugging angst, they'd rather keep putting their daughters life in danger instead, makes a lot of sense.

    sandy February 16, 2025 7:55 pm

    Just bad writing thru n thru, they want readers to leave their brains as well and come along the ride.

itallstartedwithwmmap January 22, 2025 12:05 am

I haven’t read this in a LONG time just bc I kinda got uninterested but I came back and realized that the art is so much more simpler in the recent chapters compared to ch 1 I feel like so many webtoons do that gradually and no one notices LOL can someone tell me if it’s worth it to pick this one back up

itallstartedwithwmmap January 10, 2025 2:32 pm

considering all things like she was raised to be obedient by her family and withstand a lot of abuse without understanding that it’s intolerable, it makes sense why the FL acts like she does (easily pushed around, reliant on the 3 ML’s, doesn’t wanna cause social disruption so she paid for the ex MIL’a TV subscription, and just overall not very bright). It sets her up for good character development but we know this is a romance plot so she will have very little development and itll just be her relying on her husbands to protect her while she cries. BUT EVEN SO I WANT TO CRY TEARS OF FRUSTRATION JUST FROM READING TO CH 16 she is like the epitome of a helpless FL that is disillusioned that she is individualistic and strong-willed (but I do like that she practices what she preaches like not hitting back esp when it could probably get her in more trouble if the police were involved and they could shift the blame to her). but also why did she accuse the mom of being spineless and only saying something after her siblings said something when the FL is lowk the same… I’m smelling her hypocrisy through the screen. The FL can’t defend herself for her life other than at the scene with her family. Every evil character acts SO ridiculous and the FL is thrown into dumb situations (why did the mom say that the ex husband cheating was a sign he was a desirable man LOL) and I’m such a sucker for those plot devices

kootlyn July 18, 2021 9:23 pm

Everyone is saying this was so satisfying and that Eve really did good things in these recent chapters. I really disagree with that hahaa it is so frustrating that her two older siblings almost cut off Michael’s arm and all they get away with is being forced to apologize to Michael and having bird poop in one of their eyes. This really does just show that she doesn’t actually have any power to protect Michael and how she’s unable to do real harm to her siblings. And that’s just part of the buildup for when she does have enough power later on so is there some reason why other readers are saying this was a satisfying moment? I mean, she did make a recording to threaten them, but why would they be reprimanded when the entire royal family treats them as replaceable slaves? (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

    Sara July 18, 2021 9:49 pm

    Well compared to the past she did stand up for herself and Agnito so it is big progress. Also obv she can't harm her siblings cause they are all royals and it would be a big scandal. Even Betty still didn't try to harm her directly, even tho she has more power. Also I think revenge would go against her character and I don't think she would want to actively harm her "family". Its better to not get into meaningless fights and scandals and she did show that she is gaining power and confidence cause she made them apologize, which wouldn't happen before.

    ♥mex2Dboys♥ July 18, 2021 10:06 pm

    Of course it was satisfying.. she used to be quite and never made a move to stand for anything. She standing for ml and asking them to apologize to a slave is a good start for her to make things different. She is gaining confidence and the other humunculus will follow her because she is standing for them even tho she can't do anything to help them physically she is being supportive.. the royal are above everything and nobody can touch them so basically they are like Gods but she forced them to lower themselves and apologize.. so yeah I like her...

    sH9 July 18, 2021 11:37 pm

    I agree so much!

    sH9 July 18, 2021 11:41 pm
    I agree so much! sH9

    with kootlyn
    an apology is far from enough that kind of thing could likely keep happening

    and even from a slavery point of view, an imperial point of view, they dared to seriously attempt to damage her property - her personal guard - by cutting off his arm, thus making the personal guard she chose unable to keep fulfilling his duty, which directly harms her interest as well as her pride/honor/standing

    if she brought this to the king that shall be enough to have those two AND Betty quite severely punished, as this is an indirect attack on one of his majesty the king's daughters

    sH9 July 18, 2021 11:46 pm

    the only good reason I can think of for the mc not to report this,

    is if she believes it will be more useful to do that later on,
    like at a time Betty is in a worse position

    but it seems to be that waiting is unwise, given how bold that attack was, and with the migration policy plan affair (Betty spreading rumours that she had the idea and being caught and ashamed) the timing is actually really good to worsen her standing even more ヽ(`Д´)ノ

    LuluKillua July 18, 2021 11:47 pm

    I agree 100% she can have character development without him being put down?? It's crazy, i know..

    Sara July 19, 2021 1:48 am
    the only good reason I can think of for the mc not to report this, is if she believes it will be more useful to do that later on,like at a time Betty is in a worse positionbut it seems to be that waiting is unw... sH9

    Well the emperor wouldn't really care cause they see homunculus as toys, so the punishment would be light. Maybe she will use it to spread the rumor or against Betty and make her seem silly. I also think that the best revenge is her becoming the crown princess, so she shouldn't argue over things that are not important to royals..

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