I feel so bad for people who came here to read a fun, rapey, romance story. Must feel bad to be told to grow up and stop fetishising and normalising romance stories with assault in it.
Ps: the problem isn't using lack of consent as a plot device (if done well) but the glorification of it in the end by showing the rapist as a good person who deserves no consequences, second chances at life and love and as someone who has found redemption by repeatedly raping, abusing and humiliating someone as revenge. WHILE simultaneously punishing the assault victim if it is their fault they got raped and alluding to the fact that they DESERVED rape in the first place.
What author's issues are but the fact that she is a 30 something woman, coping with her anger by punishing a 2d character in unhealthy ways like showing him getting raped and assaulted and confined and abused is kinda funny to me
About the bl sidestory... Like why won't the author commit??? I don't care if it's psychological/thriller but the fact that it just came out of nowhere, especially since author wrote mental health so poorly in the main. The romance smut suddenly turned into bootleg killing stalking OUT OF NOWHERE!! Like please commit to the genre then, make it thrilling and strong and psychologically intriguing and make us root for some outcomes but no... It's just to punish Byun Minho...
So I guess... this is it. The gl is over and the bl will be commencing on August 11. Our resident, misogynistic, pussy jerk, Byun Minho will be (I'm assuming) beaten, starved, raped, abused, humiliated and locked up inside Cha Wookyung's dungeon.
If you feel somewhere that Byun Minho should've gotten better or that this romance smut had no business being roadkill killing stalking then don't forget to check out ALL BARK NO BITE, my independent, full length bl fanfic that I specifically dedicated to Byun Minho and Cha Wookyung with better suited backstories, arcs, sexualities and futures.
I'm also doing a completely new, sweet and healthy dominatrix and other (well-written) subs and of course the two twats I hated most in the original would be treated like they would be in the real world. Fic is under my username @hastyprovocateur on both Wattpad and Archive of our Own. Links are at the bottom of my mangago homepage.
(Warning- 18+, psychological)
Rape is not sex. Rape is assault... A simplified picture for your chipmunk sized brain- imagine beating someone to a pulp against their will, that's rape, being rough with someone with their consent is bdsm/rough sex/rough roleplay. If someone says no to sex, rough or not, it's assault, it's violence, it's rape. Rape and sex are nowhere near on whatever Venn diagram you drew ratass, get help.
So I guess... this is it. The gl is over and the bl will be commencing on August 11. Our resident, misogynistic, pussy jerk, Byun Minho will be (I'm assuming) beaten, starved, raped, abused, humiliated and locked up inside Cha Wookyung's dungeon.
If you feel somewhere that Byun Minho should've gotten better or that this romance smut had no business being roadkill killing stalking then don't forget to check out ALL BARK NO BITE, my independent, full length bl fanfic that I specifically dedicated to Byun Minho and Cha Wookyung with better suited backstories, arcs, sexualities and futures.
I'm also doing a completely new, sweet and healthy dominatrix and other (well-written) subs and of course the two twats I hated most in the original would be treated like they would be in the real world. Fic is under my username @hastyprovocateur on both Wattpad and Archive of our Own. Links are at the bottom of my mangago homepage.
(Warning- 18+, psychological)
A person has been trolling the comments sections for yuri manhwas like Sadistic Beauty and Lilith 2 making pro-r*pe, h*mophobic, lesbian fetishising comments. Please stay calm and ignore them. They will continue to spam more but please do not reply or engage with them in any way.
(sorry for ze plug) To the people who were hoping for a better story for Minho, (or those who hated cardboard prop Wookyung) and aren't putting any confidence in the "dark" "cruel" "bl" sidestory, don't forget to check out the full-length ongoing bl alternative for Minho and Wookyung called ALL BARK NO BITE under my user @hastyprovocateur on Wattpad (and now on Ao3 as well with the same title and username). You can also find the links at the bottom of my mangago homepage or you can just message me for the fanfic. I'm doing complete plot with backstories, character arcs, angst and happy ending. (Warning- 18+)
Hiiii! I'm doing an entirely new plot with backstories, character arcs, smex, angst and happy ending for Byun Minho and Cha Wookyung specifically. If you're interested, do check out the full-length ongoing bl alternative called ALL BARK NO BITE under my user @hastyprovocateur on Wattpad. You can also find the link at the bottom of my mangago homepage or you can just message me.
(Warning- Psychological, smut 18+)
Hi guys, this is the translator. I don't want to put up a whole notice so I'll just leave this here. I got the new chapter, cleaned it, started translating, worked a few pages in and I can't do it y'all. There is no redemption, the plot sucks, the characters suck and I thought we'd see some growth since we're coming close to the ending but noooo. The whole thing is literally going NOWHERE, and I hate that I came so close to completing the whole thing, dropping a manhua like this was inconceivable for me before this but gah, Lilith 2 fucked with me like that. I can't.
(sorry for ze plug) To the people who were hoping for a better story for Minho, (or those who hated cardboard prop Wookyung) and aren't putting any confidence in the "dark" "cruel" "bl" sidestory, don't forget to check out the full-length ongoing bl alternative for Minho and Wookyung called ALL BARK NO BITE under my user @hastyprovocateur on Wattpad. You can also find the link at the bottom of my mangago homepage or you can just message me for the fanfic. I'm doing complete plot with backstories, character arcs, angst and happy ending. (Warning- 18+)
I was dissatisfied with this story and how it handled development for Minho and Wookyung so I've written a full-length, ongoing bl fanfic specifically for them to hopefully do their characters some justice. Yes, with backstories, depth, ambitions, flaws, families, past, future and definite arcs.
It's called ALL BARK NO BITE and it's on Wattpad under tags for fanfiction, sadistic beauty and bdsm. This is my first fic and I've really given it my all. 30 chapters have already been published and many more are coming. If you wish to read it or just explore a different plotline then you can check it out. My username is @hastyprovocateur
I can't put the link here since Mangago doesn't like that but you can find it in my profile thingy at the bottom of my home page (Also big warning:- 18+ content)
I was really dissatisfied with this story and how it handled development for Minho and Wookyung so I'm writing a full-length, ongoing bl fanfic specifically for them to hopefully do their characters some justice.
It's called ALL BARK NO BITE and it's on Wattpad under tags for fanfiction, sadistic beauty, bdsm and yaoi. This is my first fic and I've really given it my all. 30 chapters have already been published.
If you wish to read it or just explore a different plotline then you can check it out. (Warning 18+) (I would've given the link here but mangago wouldn't like that)
Please fix the order of the dream somebody, I have been rereading it since yesterday and it would be even cuter if it was in order.
(spoiler alert) He never hit her back in college, but he slapped her once in her hotel room when she was talking smack to him and it triggered him. That was irretrievably wrong but then also, he got raped as a "punishment" right after he did that so we know exactly why that hitting scene was necessary. Author makes him act out now and then to justify the rape, assault and humiliation he suffers right after, as part of "discipline". I also hated it when he hit Haesol but then author really only did that to make his suicide-ankle breaking-assault look justified. Because "he hit her" or "he hit someone weaker" is supposed to make you more uncomfortable than "she raped him" or "forced him to watch sex against his will" when all are disgusting but author's bias was evident. Minho's acting out is punishable by extreme measures but mc and Wookyung, the actual villain, go scot free. It's surprising how Minho's never mean when he doesn't have to be raped because of it. I really felt like he was the only redeemable character because he always acted out when he got triggered or was insecure because of his body, financial stature and circumstances. He himself didn't belief the discrimination he projected as he admitted in the final chapters so his behaviour is clearly socially influenced but I guess that's the story author wants to sell. May the growth arcs we expected from the characters in SB rip.
To the people in the comments, who have had to deal with a certain user telling them that they're being hateful, moralistic, misogynistic, antis for disliking mc, being angry over the ending or demanding that the author do better, your opinion holds weight because rape is never a joke. That said, we now know that SB used rape as part of humiliation and complete break of a certain character and no, I am not insisting that author change her story but rather recognise that what was done to Byun Minho was rape up till the final chapters and not hail the mc as a bdsm queen or sexy dominatrix.
The utter tone deafness of using rape, a problem that plagues women more than anyone, to one-up a female character in a story that so blatantly tries to be feminist in it's approach was disappointing. Plus having her face no consequences for it and in turn being rewarded with professional success, a devoted slave etc really shows that the author sees people in terms of who can be shown getting raped and who cannot. And yes Byun Minho, Yang Gyerin, Woo Haesol and Cha Wookyung were also raped. Even if verbal consent is not involved, physical cues practically don't exist in SB.
For the Gyerin-Haesol scene (straight guy forced on a lesbian while both are visibly uncomfortable), all of Haesol's scenes (no consent, no aftercare), all of Minho's scenes (rape, forced penetration, unwanted humiliation, no aftercare) and yes, with Wookyung too (forced oral sex). Wookyung himself doesn't practice consensual sex and is pretty screwed up so I don't know why we think that his and MC's scenes are going to be consensual since they are both sadistic rapists and regularly cross boundaries. Even though he's the psychopathic villain, WOOKYUNG WAS VIOLATED TOO (check ep 81-82), so no exception there.
It is okay to feel uncomfortable when a story tries so hard to make you empathize with a rapist while simultaneously punishing the rape victim with more rape and violence with not even a note of cognizance is passed by the writer who simply assumes that if a woman is criticised then she is justified in her revenge, 10 years later by rape actually what am I saying, mc is a perpetual rapist. Even the people she likes suffer from her selfishness.
I know rape is a constant in manhuaverse but let's not normalise it under the guise of "others do it too, why should women be hated for it?" rape is not gender specific and rapists who are glorified instead of being tackled carefully as problematic characters as part of a dark/psychological/rape fantasy. Nothing wrong in writing whatever you want but if you misrepresent, exploit or fail to address THE KEY THEMES that your work is about then yes, readers have every right to hate your idealogy and your work. SB picked up BDSM, Feminism, LGBTQIA and failed to even properly lay out the MOST BASIC FRAMEWORK of those concepts, sufficiently disappointing the communities as well.
Lastly, people have different tolerance levels. I am very sensitive to themes like abuse, humiliation, rape, assault and violence therefore this work becomes more vile for me with time. There are others who are able to digest the same content without needing the still necessary disclaimers but as the former, please don't let some callous idiot tell you that your feelings regarding the story are over the top/ you're projecting/ being unfair whatever.
Why can't you get it into your thick skull that reading about rape as part of a story that is furnished by it or is integral to the storytelling or the genre is not the problem but that people actually feel uncomfortable when trying to read it in a work that so blatantly justifies, encourages and normalises it to the very end??? In a genre that demands no such extremity, and in a manner of portrayal that so strongly tries to imply depth of character, storytelling and purpose, that too with NO disclaimers as such, we get it you're as comfy as the author about the downplaying of intensely heavy and traumatic themes like humiliation, rape, assault and abuse but please don't call people "hateful, misogynistic little antis" just because they feel disgusted by the justification of rape (man or woman) in Sadistic Beauty.
Author wrote him as a pure object of fetish, that's why. Large, independent, arrogant but beautiful man who repeatedly puts himself in a position of vulnerability for the mc to exploit, rape, abuse and feel good about. That's why d* keeps talking like "this tall, arrogant man... is kneeling in front of me? Is asking for my help?" and the like. If Minho was rich (like Wookyung), had friends (like Haesol), or family to fall back on (like d*), we wouldn't be having so many of his rape scenes at mc's hands. He also seemingly has no psychological impact from the verbal and physical abuse he faced at every step. Think about the girls making fun of his erectile dysfunction, Wookyung beating him up, Haesol belittling him, mc doing all that to him, his batchmates clowning him for begging in front of the Dean, him having no friends, living in poverty for so long, being insecure, having no family or friends. I mean if d* had trauma from the harsh criticism she faced 10 years ago, we can have a (much greater) mental health discourse for Minho's character as well.
He's written as a blank page only for the twisted fantasy of the female mc, that no matter what happens, he only has her and will only turn to her, even if this implies that he'll have to get assaulted. Author also purposely doesn't show him being traumatised (like Haesol was when d* choked him) so people are unable to fathom the actual impact of the abuse he's facing. This is very common in hentai, think of beautiful girls who get repeatedly put in a position of abuse no matter how successful or independent they are. They don't ever seriously acknowledge that they are being raped and always proceed to enjoy it all for the pleasure of the viewer via the eyes of the rapist. Hence how Minho only "gets hard" with d* and only cums when she's raping him. Sb was supposed to be a story for exploration of these characters because that's how it put itself across. Strong flawed woman faces man who criticised her and finds love but alas it's actually just another trashy ass hentai story that got me involved for too fucking long with 0 payback.
Sorry if this was a bit long
Chap 81, pg 15-22 she literally sat on his face without consent... I know Wookyung's shit and it looks hot, plus he's all about that but it didn't seem consensual to me. Maybe I'm wrong or it's just horseplay for them. She did rape the others though, no doubt about that. Also what's the point of jumping down a rapist's account with a gracious "she didn't rape THAT person though" like what's the point of it? Defense? Factual accuracy? Or are you trying to tell the person accusing Duna of raping everyone to chillll because atleast she didn't rape that psychopath? If it's factual accuracy you're going for, then I'd like to hold that "factually" she did force herself on him. She's not selective in her behaviour you know, author wrote her as a perpetual rapist. That's all.