I'm sorry for beating a dead horse I wanna like this one 100% with my all so bad I like both the ML and FL and like the eerie morally gray energy the ML is giving off and the FL being this insecure low confidence person who needs some TLC is something I want to see but the FL's proportions are extremely off-putting I know it's a smut but Jesus Christ whenever they do a full body shot of her bending over (which is more than once in the last 5 Chs)I expect her topple under the weight of her breasts against her tiny frail frame + having her be so short doesn't help. (If I hear a single "she was raised poor so she's gonna be skinny and some fat remains on the boobs" I'm gonna shoot myself because the other side characters have the exact same body type but with smaller tits)
At least put her in baggy clothes watching her pains me.
She legit reminds me of this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7eyVZRBeBtg
finally someone pointed it out like hear me out why cant female leads in manhwas have small or average sized breasts like ik the build this fl has is possible some women have it but they also have some fat on their entire body like its almost ridiculous how female lead looks and ik shes going through shit but her constant personality is just annoying like girl please either u reject that man or confess her as an overall character is just boring like even that girl we saw in previous chapters has more personality than her (btw this is just my opinion whoever liked the manhwa enjoy it dont take it seriously lol)
I keep remembering "blood of madam gisille" where it was smutty most of the cast had small to average tits with only 2 characters having huge knockers an older mature lesbian and a fat evil maid neither of whom get explicit sex scenes.
I thought it was refreshing to finally have a female lead be the prettiest female with the best body cuz usually it's the side characters that I find get the most love and attention to their bodies. I also don't want her to be like everyone else. I want her to be above average. I want to escape into this fake reality and see something amazing and above average and different. So I like it alot but that's just my opinion that I wanted to express.
yess there is another smut manhwa its pretty short "succubus girl" she had avg sized breast and it felt normal rather than seeing two huge watermelons attached to a small girl
It was about time I saw a comment like this. It really does make it harder to fully enjoy and appreciate the story for what it is when they portray the FL like this. I (guess) it would be understandable if the manhwa was a smut cuz the characters tend to have intentionally seductive body types in order to sexually appeal to readers or wtv. But, in this case, I really feel that the portrayl of the FL doesn't match the complexity and depth of the story. She's overly sexualized in my opinion, and as someone has pointed out, no one else has as exaggerated body proportions as the FL does. Now I'm kinda curious about the reason behind the decision to have designed the FL this way... I'm starting to wonder if there's some sort of message or purpose in her character design that I'm not picking up.
Yeah but not everyone wants to self insert and not everyone wants to self insert as a short skinny girl with huge knockers and self esteem issues. "Above Average" miss ma'am most women with that size have some chub on the arms and tum to balance it out and if they don't they usually diet it is very rare that this is natural and it is unbelievable. There's a D cup then there's a J Cup over here this is so out of the realm of possibility that it pulls me out of the story every full body shot where she isn't standing upright because they look so hefty I can't imagine the backpain. Haesoo is her own character and her design does not reflect this aspect of her, it doesn't reflect her poverty, it does not reflect her drained overworked self that gets up early and sleeps late.
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Then there was also sex exercise which although was a smut had a decent variety of body types that weren't just the same skinny body type with different heights and boobs although most girls were thin they were all people who worked out . There was a short girl with small tits and ass (not childlike), a girl that was more muscular with defined abs and beefy arms, thin pilates lady with hourglass figure, a short chubby girl with fat tits and some other girls that were more samey but they also didn't hold back with the guys like there's a tall chubby guy and a lanky short nerd outside of the six pack tall bodybuilder guys.
It's "appeal">"storytelling through character design" they could have her look tired, dirty and haggard to portray her poverty and the toll it's taken on her but they're scared you'll think "ew ugly" instead they make her look like the most unrealistic super model/porn actress to make you care instead of relying on the writing because they can't put her nice clothes cause she's poor but they don't want you to think she's ugly and not care about her. It's an insecurity of the creator either that or the more cynical response that they just wanted to attract men to a josei story to get more money and attention by making her attractive by giving her huge tits.
exactly there should be a variety cuz most smut/josei manhwas have females with ridiculously big breasts which end up looking like watermelons and even if they want to draw someone with huge watermelons they should atleast add some fat on the arms or either stomach like as someone with a mother who has a d cup shes a fitness trainer and even she has fat on her arms to balance it out (im a girl btw) and same goes for men men but once again its just a fictional manhwa abit too ridiculous but a fiction at the end of the day
PLSSSSSS that video caught me off guardi cant oml
I’m sorry but read manhwas like stupidemic ect- so I’m confused on how it’ truly pains you when you read story’s with art designs that’s worse. I’m saying that, you’re allowed to feel a way about an authors art choice fr but you can’t dismiss the fact that they’re all exaggerated, though does it matter ? No because they don’t represent anyone irl no matter how deep this story seems to a lot of people
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They introduce the sister as weak then go “nu-uh” when the MC and her switch bodies because “um actually” that weakness was actually a result of OP magic that wasn’t being used (why didn’t MC just tell her sister that?????). I kinda don’t like she gets OP main character Mary sue powers. I want her to live with being weak and pretty like her sister not pretty + powerful + the handsome powerful prince is in love with her/ obsessed with her. That’s too much.
She was so cute imagining herself taking the lead and then having her be embarrassed and shy when actually going through with it being contrasted by her usual assertive and confident demeanor is such a delectable gap moe. My heart was breaking for her when she got shy and then he just said he wasn’t interested in her and her said her tits weren’t big enough.
Fuck you guys she deserves to get laid plus she’s fairly shy and it would be a nice contrast with Seyoungs aggressiveness.
I already knew it was a harem and I wasn't that attached to Seyoung because if I'm being honest she's very childish with how she keeps throwing tantrums and threatening violence against MC. I don't know why everyone thinks they'll be perfect together other than the fact they keep "bantering" and banging. I was kinda put off originally by how he just wants this chick to stop smoking but then 3 broke chicks just start crashing in his place, eating his food and using his things with no regard or consideration of his feelings. Pinky hasn't really argued with MC that much she just keeps flirting and teasing him cause she's bored. I'm kinda glad that they go with the "he's actually capable of being super manly, cool and kind leading to girls falling for him" and not any childhood friend crap or having him saying/doing something kind leading to girls falling for him. I like that Pinky has experience but is so caught off guard by how cool he suddenly started acting that she gets flustered and embarrassed. Everyone is acting like Seyoung and MC are dating or showing signs of reciprocating their feelings but like... They're not...? I know Seyoung might be into him but she's super childish and annoying about it while MC is just scared shitless of her outside of sex (I'm sorry but she's really not jacked and looks like she does gymnastics, figure skating or palates) and also do you think Seyoung is going to have the balls to ask him out on a date? How exactly is pinky "stealing" him when he's not even dating Seyoung they just did some sex shit. I'm glad there's a new dynamic because some find arguing good chemistry but sometimes it just feels like they hate each other. Pinky feels like she'll be a bit more assertive direct or more forward or more unlikely she'll be shy and submissive which is cute because of the gap moe. Y'all are acting like Pinky's not even taller than him and will provide the same experience. I'm all for harem route but I really can't see the brown haired girl entering the group.
(this was just a rambling of my thoughts on the matter cause too many people are dunking on her for being curious and horny about her friends fuck buddy)
My answer is simple. Almost every korean smut with a male lead is harem. It gets generic if every single one is secretly a harem. I thought (and still secretly hope) this breaks the mold. So few do, so it's nice when it does happen.
Because if it's the mc & Seyoung then this could be a great dynamic between a tall girl & short guy. It's not that everyone is acting like they are dating or the pink haired girl is stealing him. People literally just want him to be with Seyoung.Tsundere like Seyoung are a thing but a pick me character will always be more annoying.
I'm sorry but I just have a strong hate for a lot of things rn. The offscreen drunk rape, the offhandedly mentioned "dream" which made him go "I'm gonna go through with m-preg", the stalker creepy sex pest seme (guys after he raped a drunk/unconscious uke he wouldn't give the uke his clothes and kept saying either "if you suck my dick one more time I'll give you clothes" or "make out with me one more time and I'll give you clothes"), I'm sorry but you guys made me have to pull out this card "what if the uke was a girl?" How would we feel about a man doing this to a college girl? Stalking her, the whole cast treating her like she's stupid and ugly, vetoing her abortion option at the clinic, putting a GPS on her phone, forcing her to dropout of college for the marriage and pregnancy with no qualms? One other aside what if the seme wasn't hot/handsome or rich? This feels so out of whack.
I have never felt more gaslit than when the uke is suddenly in love with the seme less than 10 chapters in and is allowing all this stuff to happen, the clothes, the marriage, the in laws, the forced pregnancy leading to the uke getting baby trapped. This feels so controlling and manipulative in a way that just makes your insides feel slimey and I hate it so much. The sheer amount the story degrades the uke and idolizes the seme is also weird as shit because it feels like some type of misogyny disguised as Yaoi. (I know the story points out that the seme is a creepy stalker sometimes but he never changes and that is lampshading because they point it out and never address it in any capacity neither how it feels like the uke is just a trophy wife)
Appreciate your comment, was thinking of reading this cause most comments were positive but probably won't now.
So funny, if you go back months ago I wrote the same comment almost verbatim after rereading it. I was like, did I hate this as much the first time I read it? Because yeah, I personally only like the chapters with their past lives and the babies now. I can’t read any of the first half.
Just forgot to mention that the story treats the uke like he's a dumb dipshit which is supposed to be funny and sometimes it tries to frame it as attractive and cute which feels weird because they frame it as "childlike" which makes it feel like it's desirable because he's acting like a baby and getying babied by others. He is a bimbo.
Oh ! I absolutely agree
He lied to her about being poor. She is going to wake up in a fancy hotel room. This idiot.
Also kinda bummed he kissed her when she was drunk would've been hotter if he was more of a green flag and didn't do anything to her when she was drunk but was straining himself. It's hot if they kiss but it's hotter if he's more considerate in regards to her and her feelings for me personally.
watch her be all disappointed "why did this kid spend all his money on this nice hotel to impress me"
I mean- she kissed him, drunk I agree, but he hasn't gone ahead and done anything to her. I personally think he couldn't be more of a green flag in the regard, seeing how considerate and patient he is. The lying part tho, yeah that's weird
Yeah but just because she started it while inebriated doesn't mean he has to reciprocate. Yeah but he kissed her back I feel like a more admirable thing would've been for him to reject it or not reciprocate with reasoning along the lines of "you're drunk and don't know what you're doing" or "I want you to kiss me when you're not drunk and want me sober" because he wants her but also want it to be because of her own unfiltered feelings.
I guess I'm just kinda bummed out because there was a ML in another story that didn't even touch her sexually while she was kissing him, his face and neck even though he really wanted to (I'm sorry I know I shouldn't compare but it's kind of a contrast unexpectedly my standards have been raised) the makeout scene was still kinda hot though with her being on her tiptoes while stepping on his shoes for that height.
Ah I see. I mean I will stick to what I said but I understand what you mean though, it would've been admirable too.
The author simultaneously wants the FL to be weak, hated and abused but also have her be darling, cute, sweet, smart, beautiful and loved by all. They keep talking about how great she is but.... she hasn't even done anything to warrant it? Other than just being a decent person. Like none of her medicines have proven to be effective (the audience knows it it because magic<medicine because this isn't a fantasy story) neither has she done some grand gesture (you could say that her trusting and trying to treat that one dude who tried to harm/SA immediately after she was saved is admirable but that just felt dumb because immediately after he tried to stab her and then ML ended up getting stabbed). FL is also getting her ass-kissed by every "good" character like her handmaid and ML and every character that doesn't like her i.e. her sister are deemed evil reprehensible monsters with no motive other than vanity and hatered towards FL which is fine but I guess I was kinda expecting more from the premise other than what we got so far. Also war general ML should've had some scars would've been hotter and added to the battleworn scary man look they were going for because out of context he just looks like pretty anime boy number 37. (btw I'm not sure if I'm nitpicking or if this is accurate but weren't guys from this time period not supposed to cut their hair because it was seen as disrespectful to your parents to cut off a part of your body that they blessed you with). It's just a genetic "weak" "low self esteem" "abused " and "demeaned" mary sue that was hated gets with a hot hunk of man and everyone sees how perfect she is or else they're evil.
Trap is considered an offensive term by trans people as it implies the trans person is attempting to deceive others and "trap" them
Huh.
They said the words “retarded” and “fag” like a 100 times in this comic and you care about trap
ok trap
These replies are lowkey crazy T0T
I never knew that info, ty for sharing GumWad!!
I don’t think Puni is trans tho, hence using the term cause he doesn’t gaf.
And I get what you’re trying to explain but based on what you said, it technically fits with how he used it. He won a crossdressing competition, which the whole point of and the way best way to win is to deceive the audience. You’re supposed to make them think you are actually the opposite gender for that brief period of time.
Also, most of the other characters in this comic use slurs. If you’re so sensitive to that type of language, avoid reading these types of stories. Like, I really don’t see this story calming down with that aspect.
I'm pretty sure their just feminine looking boys
Yeah but Puni does it for the clout, bro even edits his photos online.
So the only reason I could care about trans people is if I'm trans myself?
Yeah but those are moreso used in edgy teen boy slang "trap" is more of a weeb/anime term that his arisen due to translations. Plus most stories in this vein usually gear away from trans issues in relation to queer people and mostly focus on men-loving-men or drag. Plus trap isn't used as an insult here but a neutral term essentially destigmatizing it like it's not an offensive term and the standard definition. I thought trap was a neutral term because of how anime, manga and manhwa spaces treat it but then trans people just don't like the term for the implications. Those terms are used to show that these guys are edgy assholes trap is used because "that's what they call these people"
Then just have them call it a femboy, drag or crossdressing contest.
It's not that puni is trans it's that trap is used to mean that trans people especially mtf are "dirty degenerates" that want to "trick" and "trap" straight men into gay and queer relationships and relations (think ace ventura pet detective).
It's less so that and moreso that most readers and writers seem unaware that it's a slur or derogatory term. It is not neutral it is vehemently denied any traction in any trans spaces as the term inherently implies deception and malicious intent. Then wouldn't it be better to call it a crossdressing, drag or femboy contest.
I just wanted to clarify it is a slur/offensive term because in anime, manga and manhwa communities it is treated as a neutral term as it is used to describe a character that "passes" as the opposite sex but isn't or a "reverse trap" think a trap but then "plot twist remember that guy that looked like a girl? That was actually a girl the whole time" or vice versa. Trans people do not like this term I wanted to clarify it.
I have no issue with the characters that are bad people using derogatory language and slurs. I just wanted to say that it is a slur because I had once used it without knowing the connotations and it appears people have misunderstood it as me believing all the other slurs and derogatory terms are ok to say. Just because I didn't also say "_____ is a slur too btw" doesn't mean it isn't or that I condone it's usage. Looking at some of the replies some people were ignorant that it was a slur as there is enough media and awareness covering the terms "faggot" and "retarded" as offensive but because "trap" isn't wildly used in pop culture or regarded as an offensive term in online weeb communities it slips through the cracks as neutral. Likewise I am not saying all trans people find it offensive I am just clarifying it's negative connotations.
Everyone clap for the artist for rendering and illustrating the apple in this chapter so beautifully instead of using a 3D model which we would've forgiven but I'm so grateful look at that paint job. Beautiful.
He ripped the IV straight off of his arm. The second hand pain and cringe that I felt watching that is unmatched.