I cannot. As much as I understand, I cannot. But I understand, really. So much that I cannot stand it. It's twisted and cannot be justified but I understand. Because no matter how happy and perfect your life is, you long for the things you don't have. Sometimes you destroy things in order to rebuild it, you try doing things, pushing your luck thinking you might gain something from it-a momentary pleasure or maybe a life-changing experience, who knows. You are insatiable.
Still, I cannot. There should be another way. I can't even begin to imagine the scar you can get from being betrayed by someone you love and trust. I cannot. My heart couldn't take it for sure. So, pls anything but this. T_T
I don't read Japanese, so I have to wait for the translation to see if there's some clue on motivation other than what is in comments (ie, implied). My first thought seeing the raws was that they had been a couple since middle school--first loves, no one else. Some people do wonder what it would be like with someone else. I mean, I'd think a lot of gay guys would have several experiences before finding a soulmate or longterm monogamous partner. So they already know what it's like to "sample." But these guys did not. So, reading the raws, I thought it was that--the lure of the "what if."
Plus Na-chan said it in the first chapter to Arata: "I'm more perverted than you." This implies something maybe.
He may have had a really active fantasy life that he hadn't shared with Arata.
Yes, I agree. That's why I said I understand. But still, it hurts. I know where Na-chan is coming from because I also wonder about it (I have a boyfriend for 6yrs and counting) and honestly speaking there's a possibility I'd do the same if I meet someone who would catch my attention. But thinking about how it would hurt my boyfriend or what if he's also thinking about the same thing and eventually cheat on me. What if we both cheat? I have this thoughs over and over again and I don't think it will go away easily. So what's the best thing to do? I'd say talk it over. Sounds boring but I can't think of another way. If we want something new or something to challenge ourselves we better do it together. If we want to be more perverted then by all means, do it. If there's really a need to involve other people then go for it. Maybe, what I want is honesty. That we're together on this. Well, I know for a fact that cheating can be thrilling for some other people but it's not really the case and you really love your partner then better tell it straight to his face. Say you're happy with him but you're not satisfied. It would hurt him but it's way better than cheating on him. I know I sound naive and whatnot. But well, if they managed to overcome the cheating and forgive each other in end then that's ok as well. Seriously, this manga had me feeling conflicted. T_T
I honestly think that cheating has to be one of the most painful things humans can go through emotionally. I mean, you invest your heart and soul into someone with huge intimacy and bam. So, we all agree Na-chan acted horribly. I think those of us who have been or are idealistic think about, "Well, if you want to be with someone else, then break up." I honestly think that when cheaters fall to temptation, they aren't thinking, "I don't love X anymore and I want Y, so lemme go talk with X." I really think it happens, they enjoy it, they want it, and they may not want to break up with their original partner. They may in fact feel very good, warm,caring feelings for their partner, and still have the lust overwhelm them.
Is that good? No. But it sure seems to be human. We're not so psychologically cut and dried that we'd say, "OK, I wanna be with big-dick here, so I'll dump Arata and come back to get big-dick." There is a difference between lust and love. Arata is Na-chan's love. Big Dick (can't remember his name) is his lust object. (At least, it looks that way without reading dialogue.)
It's a sad and complex thing, but the fact that these two did work it out isn't bad. It just shows that two people, each who did a terrible thing, and who almost lost each other, stopped and decided that, "No, I want to make it work. This person is precious to me and we have a happy history. This is a big bump on the road, but it's not the end of the road."
It's a different realistic ending, and it doesn't gloss over the pain. It is painful. I felt like crying over the raws. ;( But this is how humans are.
Yes, lust and love are two different things and sometimes it's not with the same person. He loves Arata, he lusts over the othey guy. It happens because we can never find all the things we want and need from one person only. Personally, this has been my struggle for a while now, you can say Arata and Na-chan's relationship almost like ours (my boyfriend and I) and I do think I'm in danger if I meet someone like that black-haired guy. Being in a relationship with someone for so long is never that easy just because we love each other. Thinking back on how we started, I never thought I would feel like this in the long run. I was naive. Still, we can only try to work things out because we can't give up on us. Well, this isn't about me but really this manga was like a slap in the face for me. A reality check. Cheating is definitely a big no. No matter how justified the reason is. Once done it's irreversible but if we could learn from it, reflect on it and if forgiven by people we betrayed, all we can do is to make sure it will never happen again. Healing will take time, it's a process. But they will get there if they really love each other.
Well, for argument's sake, if Arata couldn't forgive Na-chan no one can blame him for that. If they break up for good then that's it. If they could move on with their lives then it's alright, too. The choices and decisions are different with each people. In the end, it's up to the couple to stay or to let go. T_T
When you have true love combined with passionate lust, it's perfection. I know. :D But I"m not so blind that I think humans can't fall. We've been lucky to be still crazy devoted and passionate after all these years, but humans screw up. I think that's why you have to always remember why you love each other and keep that going, feeding the love, being careful not to get too close to anyone tempting. If they are tempting or sexy--just STAY AWAY and don't play with fire.
I think both Na-chan and Arata would be justified in not forgiving each other. One for the cheating, one for the violence. And both are justified in choosing forgiveness (for self and for the other).
I'm still glad the author let them not give up. I prefer happy endings, even if I cried buckets to get tehre, even if it's bittersweet.
True love and passionate lust -- perfection, indeed. Man, I would give anything for that! c: It's really a challenge to keep a relationship going, no? Anyway, I can just look here and there, it's not cheating right? Haha. Well, I know for a fact that admiring someone other than your partner is normal as long as you don't cross the line. c:
Yes and yes. Violence is wrong no matter the circumstances are. Whether they forgive each other or not, I think either way is fine. Well, to be honest I can't say for sure that I'm satisfied with the ending but like you said it was kind of realistic and I agree.
And I gotta move on with this manga. It's making my head hurts more than necessary. *sigh
The feeling when you finally reach the latest chapter. *smh
I think we all want Sawamura to be the ace. But honestly I have mixed feelings about this. The way Terajima-sensei establish Furuya makes it look like Seidou won't replace him as the ace. Sure, they acknowledge Sawamura and all but is that enough? His efforts and hard work are paying off but... I don't know. Maybe, I'm just uneasy that Furuya is out of his game so Sawamura is taking this chance, but I know that they're playing for the team to win so making the most out of Sawamura (and other pitchers as well) would be beneficial for all. But... Oh man, I'm losing it. I love Seidou but I love Sawamura the most (he's loud, though)!
Waiting for the jersey numbers announcement is agony as its best.
Read this during lunch break at work and I was laughing big time! Like seriously I can't stop hahahahahahaha!
Lol sound like someting id doヾ(☆▽☆)
It was the most absurd thing I read in years. I was giggling the whole time! Hahahaha!
I read this a while back. By the time I finished this I was literally a ball of tears. I was rooting for Sensei. He was the character I became attached the most. I did like Chun chun but I liked her when she was with Sensei. When she chose Mamura, I knew I'm doomed. But thinking back, maybe that was really how it should be. Suzume with Mamura and Sensei with someone who would truly see him for who he is and love him the way he needs to be loved. Maybe Suzume and Mamura's love story was that of a teenage love that would develop into an everlasting love, while Sensei was more fitted to a mature kind of love-- jaded but deep. I really like the simplicity of how Sensei and Samejima-san met. It might be boring at first but I know in time, once they reveal their true selves, it will bloom into a passionate love.
Now, I might be overthinking things. But really, I feel triggered everytime I see Hirunaka no Ryuusei. I guess, love stories like this will always leave a mark on me.
Sorry for the long post. >_<
The way he asked him out was perfect. So magical. Fitting for a hero asking for his princess' hand. Damn. That was so pure. My poor heart.
Ok. I've read the last two chapters for God knows how many times just to come terms with my feelings. My entire day was gloomy because of this, it wasn't really a good idea to read this on a monday morning. Uh. And so I've come up with a continuation in my mind, there are two possibilities: 1. Haruna moved on and met someone new. He needs to be happy, if not with Shiki then at least with someone who will never leave him. Shiki was never his in the first place. Who knows, someday Shiki might fall for Ryuuzou. Maybe, they're not really meant for each other but the bittersweet memories they had will remain in their hearts forever. or 2. Somehow Shiki was freed from Ryuuzou and met Haruna again and they lived happily-ever-after.
Sorry for the rant. I'm really having a terrible headache right now. T_T
I've said it! Now, for the life of me, I must move on! T_T
┗( T﹏T )┛i can feel your headache
This got me really frustrated. The lil bro is crazy but I can't blame him. The big bro is a slut but it's his choice so whatever. The environment they grew up with was messed up so maybe that's why. Still, if they just convey their feelings properly it wouldn't be like this. If I were the lil bro I'll get a fucking life after telling big bro what I really feel about him. It's up to the big bro. Damn! This is really frustrating! *cries
Now that was shota done right. So far, the best omegaverse for me. Love it!
I came prepared. I ignored the warning. Still, I died. The flashback of memories isn't fair. That really hit me pretty hard. But I have no regrets. I just have to move on and accept the way things are. Yeah, I got a little crazy here. Gomen.
Why am I not surprised? Sensei's manga are all like this. Uke is always somewhat hesitant about things. xD
Omygosh now that you pointed it out... Σ( ￣□￣||) I simoly love all her works for me to notice (ノ≧∇≦)ノ ╧╧
But the personalities....!! That sheepish grin with their mouth going /...
If I'm ever arrested for attempted kidnapping (I'm a midget, I won't carry off no one without being noticed), then I found someone like them in RL.
It would be worth it!
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