somnia October 7, 2024 12:07 am

YO just let me sob in here for a moment, bc this started with me just finding this River guy sus. I see comments, I read SOME FEW spoilers, I go and look on the novel update forums, and jesus christ - nail me up there with him.

If you want spoilers on the specifics about Rivers and his cushy behaviour:

The guy sees the maid he grew up with in Dahlia. He grew up seperated from his family with that maid and fell in love with her, but he thought she died.
His father also pushed him to get close to Dahlia for political gains.
So yea, the guy gives his all to rizz her up but is quick to drop the act when it turns out that the maid's still alive. But he's not a bad guy, just desperate for his first crush.

And guess what? There's so much MORE to the story, holy fucking shit.

The reason why that maid is so similar to FL is bc she's really just Dahlia from another timeline. And wait that's not all, that alt timeline Dahlia is also actually O'neil the supposed novel FL. I'm speechless guys.

O'neil/og Dahlia is stuck in a timeloop bc ML made a deal with the devil in which he pays with his own happiness to fuel those time reversals (which is also why his life is so shit in this current timeline, bc it's not the first one - his family was actually pretty normal in the og timeline but got progressively worse each time FL returned). In that first timeline FL ended herself bc of the schemes of her paternal aunt and uncle who killed her parents to take the dukedom, and ML regreted not being there for her and stopping her in time.

So, og Dahlia goes a bit mad over all that dying and coming back, and eventually decides to travel to an optimal timeline (timeline of our Dahlia) where she's happy and can help from the shadows, so Dahlia can be as happy as possible - shortly whereafter she wants to just freeze time to be rid of this torture. She becomes O'neil, chills out with River and plots and waits.
But in the end the loop is broken, she won't be freezing anything and fades away peacefully (after exploring the world a bit.. and poor rivers is left to chase after her) since she can't exist that long in a timeline she doesn't belong to.

So in the end you could really say that he does love Dahlia in a very confusing ass way.
I'm not the only one who's totally overwhelmed by that, am I? Like not even in a bad way, just omg.

    somnia October 7, 2024 12:16 am

    Again SPOILERS:



    Oh yea, and our Dahlia is really just Dahlia. She never read the novel, it's just knowledge of those other timelines compressed down so she doesn't go mad like O'neil did.
    Something or other about 2 Dahlias existing in the same timeline, which is why the memories of O'neil Dahlia melt into our Dahlia in this twisted way. I didn't exactly get that, from the dialogue snippets I read it also feels like O'neil gave our Dahlia that novel formated info on purpose.

    Her sus dreams are also from those other timelines btw, remains of memories that her mind is processing subconsciously.

    Mrs. Guinevere October 7, 2024 3:01 am
    Again SPOILERS:Oh yea, and our Dahlia is really just Dahlia. She never read the novel, it's just knowledge of those other timelines compressed down so she doesn't go mad like O'neil did.Something or other about... somnia

    Wtf this ruined my day ::(( I hope I never scroll a comment section I'll stop reading this for a while then thanks for the heads up... Dahlia is a bit off and too foolish and I thought I was the problem for being such a hater and now it's finally justified

    yuchanx3 October 7, 2024 9:07 pm

    .. what

    Rivinish October 9, 2024 6:44 am

    Omg I'd never expect this to happen let's marinate this one for a long long time and then see Thank you for taking the time to explain this alllll

    Venus October 9, 2024 8:20 am

    what the helllll the plot is thickening

    Wowbuzza October 9, 2024 11:54 am

    WTF ??

    somnia October 9, 2024 12:04 pm

    Yuna October 9, 2024 2:42 pm

    I love how you explained this omg it feels like we're just gossiping about something

    somnia October 9, 2024 5:28 pm
    I love how you explained this omg it feels like we're just gossiping about something Yuna

    Gossiping?! I'm falling apart over here- No but fr, I love gossiping and complaining so that's where all that comes from ig

    AllReader October 9, 2024 6:44 pm

    Thank you so much for summarizing the plot so we'll WOW! This is really gonna be a roller coaster of tears

somnia October 6, 2024 1:25 am

I'll just say it, this is kinda bad? Like it's a cute concept but way too rushed. FL got into so much heat in just 27 chapters. Sure she is proactive, but also ends up being ML's damsel in distress 99% of the time so far, it doesn't help that she's basically a Mary Sue - her elegance and purity is praised so much for no reason, always being compared to white lilies which is so... Literally the very demure meme.

somnia October 6, 2024 12:43 am

Bro I felt it in my soul that poor Loraine would have to put up with pos Astana. I literally called it asap after that one scene where they were celebrating - I think it was FL's bday or some banquet at the palace, and he was just casually being like "ooga booga, Loraine's bad tho??"

somnia October 3, 2024 8:22 pm

It's crazy how I started reading this like a year? or so back and thought "oh, she's a stan ok then" and now we've arrived at greek mythology type shit with lore and everything and it's actually so well written holy shit

    mangkko October 4, 2024 10:27 pm

    crazy where we are now right?? i totally forgot she was like that in the beginning

    bruh October 10, 2024 11:50 am

    Yeah this one is definitely a diamond among the hundreds of reincarnation manhwa that actually is just entertaining at the beginning and then nosedives

    mangkko October 10, 2024 12:25 pm
    Yeah this one is definitely a diamond among the hundreds of reincarnation manhwa that actually is just entertaining at the beginning and then nosedives bruh

    only unfortunate thing i've seen is that people are focusing on the wrong thing now and nitpicking her personality from the beginning

    Mint_choclit October 10, 2024 10:56 pm

    Some writers are just soo good

somnia October 2, 2024 2:38 pm

He got that nat 20 riz down and really makes this story imo. Also really love how he's slowly infecting FL with his mischief lmao.

    leonatto October 2, 2024 9:17 pm

    oscar def maxed out his cha

somnia September 30, 2024 10:52 am

Just to voice my complaints bc I rarely see people talk about it: I wish Sovieshit took more L's. To me it feels like he got away easy just bc he's Emperor. Like from a narrative pov, you know what I mean? His agony gets to be romantized (yearning to get back Navier) despite also being a pos and commiting some lowkey crimes for Rashta here and there. I hope he gets dethroned for whatever reason. Persecute the Emperor, eat the rich I say.

    Ali September 30, 2024 11:00 am

    To extend on this I really wish rastha didn’t have the ending she did especially more in the novel she obsessed with being like the empress and truly admire her. If you look at her relationship with shit—it was quite literally a master and slave relationship. She fell in “love” with him only because he saved her. She genuinely thought she had his child. Not to say the action she made were not horrible because they were. But her back story is very typical villainess backstory were more often then not the villainess is redeemed. I genuinely if written with less aggression toward her people would be more sympathetic toward her situation and even want her to be redeemed.

    somnia September 30, 2024 11:19 am
    To extend on this I really wish rastha didn’t have the ending she did especially more in the novel she obsessed with being like the empress and truly admire her. If you look at her relationship with shit—it... Ali

    I'm not gonna defend Rashta, bc in the end she was made to really just be a vile human being despite her status but I get where you're coming from. The narrative is all about her misdeeds and just how corrupted she is when as you said, there could've been so much more to her side of the story.
    That's what makes this manhwa so average to me. It was written for pure indulgement to enjoy Navier slay and Trashta pay, with little else to say.
    It's not a bad thing if that's what you're going for, but with so many chapters and how praised the story gets I don't get how there's this little nuance.
    I think that's also why slowly more and more people are questioning the length of the story.

    S-J-M September 30, 2024 3:29 pm
    To extend on this I really wish rastha didn’t have the ending she did especially more in the novel she obsessed with being like the empress and truly admire her. If you look at her relationship with shit—it... Ali

    But she wasn't a good person so why are you pretending she was? Lmfao She deserves everything she got and more for being a disgusting person.

    Ali September 30, 2024 5:11 pm
    But she wasn't a good person so why are you pretending she was? Lmfao She deserves everything she got and more for being a disgusting person. S-J-M

    I know you don’t have media literacy, but I never said that— I said that there could be more nuance to her character especially since she was literally a slave and her relationship was shit was never a real one. You should look up what in means just in general to be in a relationship with someone with more power over you like legitimate power hopefully you will learn something:)

    Ali September 30, 2024 5:14 pm
    But she wasn't a good person so why are you pretending she was? Lmfao She deserves everything she got and more for being a disgusting person. S-J-M

    Im just pointing out that she made similar decisions if not as worse as some of the villainess revenge story there are where people do not treat the main character as this disgusting vile creature because it written in such a way to sympathize with them right— I saying to look beyond just was the author has written into the subtext right? Goodluck

    S-J-M September 30, 2024 5:36 pm
    Im just pointing out that she made similar decisions if not as worse as some of the villainess revenge story there are where people do not treat the main character as this disgusting vile creature because it wr... Ali

    You should look up "karma". I can't believe you're brain rotted enough to the point you think she deserves a pass for being a woman. Yes she's done similar to villainesses that get redeemed, but you don't have the brain cells to see the difference is that those characters WANT to be redeemed, and BEHAVE in a way that shows that. Are you really that stupid while attempting to insult my intelligence? Brain rot is real just because it's a woman.

    somnia September 30, 2024 7:07 pm
    You should look up "karma". I can't believe you're brain rotted enough to the point you think she deserves a pass for being a woman. Yes she's done similar to villainesses that get redeemed, but you don't have ... S-J-M

    It's not about her as a person, but Rashta as a fictional character as a whole and what she represents. It's about the way that the author CHOSE to present Rashta.
    Ali and I too understand that she's a total pos and deserves what she got in the story. The argument is that there >could've been more< to her and that it >would< make the story more interesting.

    If you're gonna throw insults around without actually knowing what you're so offended about, I suggest you check that smooth pebble up there that you sometimes use for thinking and make sure it doesn't leave your skull again.

    S-J-M September 30, 2024 7:41 pm
    It's not about her as a person, but Rashta as a fictional character as a whole and what she represents. It's about the way that the author CHOSE to present Rashta. Ali and I too understand that she's a total po... somnia

    So you're so stupid that you responded to something I very clearly tagged and directed at someone else as if it was towards you? What a moron. You also seem to think you know more about the character and what she deserves than the actual author? Just because you like a POS you think the author MUST make her redeemable? You should learn to read stories without making everything about you lmfao

    somnia September 30, 2024 8:07 pm

    Damn your cranium left the chat, but that's ok. Being intellectually impaired can be a blessing, wish you all the best.

    Ali September 30, 2024 8:19 pm
    Damn your cranium left the chat, but that's ok. Being intellectually impaired can be a blessing, wish you all the best. somnia

    Shawty blocked me so I can’t respond to them but thank you for understanding me and I’m sorry the literal oyster that can only eat shit to survive insulted you over this.

    somnia September 30, 2024 8:31 pm
    Shawty blocked me so I can’t respond to them but thank you for understanding me and I’m sorry the literal oyster that can only eat shit to survive insulted you over this. Ali

    it's moments like this make me worry for future generations lmao

    Just to say it again for anyone reading this:
    Neither of us were defending Rashta or taking her side, that isn't the point. If you can't tell the difference please pick up a book or smth, it's embarrassing.

    Ali September 30, 2024 11:24 pm
    it's moments like this make me worry for future generations lmaoJust to say it again for anyone reading this: Neither of us were defending Rashta or taking her side, that isn't the point. If you can't tell the ... somnia

    FRS DONT JUST READ HORRIBKY TRANSLATED MAWHA ON INTERNET DO SOME ACTUAL READING WITH ACTUAL GRAMMER AND SUBTEXT

somnia September 30, 2024 1:05 am

I'm here for the drama and crazy cat-curse lore but the plot has holes and is going at one heck of a speed.
The evil af countess already knows what the white-haired maid looks like. They met face-to-face, but somehow the hoe can't tell the difference between her and FL. I get that they're mother and daughter, but it's not like they're twins. If person A and person B look different, perhaps use that smooth pebble of a brain and consider that they're different people? She doesn't even consider that it could be a disguise, just defaults to "its the maid" bc of the hair.

I also do not appreciate the lack of context regarding why and how exactly FL and that priest descendant "work". Like wdym you had to bite him but now your human form is like remote controlled by his consciousness or whatever??? Stomp on those brakes and explain maybe?

There are also, also very awkward cut-offs, I believe the panels and/or chapters got messed up at around chapter 25, I don't remember exactly where but it cut from one evening to the masquerade ball. The narrative jumps so quickly from one thing to the next so at first I thought it's supposed to be like that, but no way.

There's more for sure but ngl, I lowkey indulged in the story a bit.

somnia September 27, 2024 9:15 pm

Oh I can already smell the ML being an ass.
Based on some serious stats (from my shoujo-stuffed lil brain), there's no way he isn't the problem here. Literally every other fictional anime husband who acts cold towards his og wife's soul has no good excuse or redemption ever. I'll bet my kidney he'll be one of them. Like, no way the og "villainess" would've felt the need to mess with og FL otherwise. Bro did not communicate with or acknowledge his love-starved wife, watch me be right.

    Domosama September 27, 2024 9:39 pm

    I'm laughing bout you betting your own kidney lol. But really, you're right about this kind of ml. They starve their wives of love when it was only that word they asked from them. And when the thing they did to their wives will be done to them by the soul inside their wives bodies,they will show some differences. They will act as if they're not the same person who were the reasons of their og wives death. Just saying lol.

    Faronbored September 28, 2024 3:21 am

    As someone who just read the novel. You are
    (Spoiler alert)











    Right. Man was so damn angry at her, and all she wanted was to be loved. But this jerk of a man was so desperate to cling on to the og fl, that og Villainess got jealous and started to harrass og fl.
    So the root of all problems is the ml, your kidney is mine

    somnia September 28, 2024 8:40 am
    As someone who just read the novel. You are(Spoiler alert)Right. Man was so damn angry at her, and all she wanted was to be loved. But this jerk of a man was so desperate to cling on to the og fl, that og Villa... Faronbored

    HA!

    No, no told up I was right I'm taking my kidney home!?

somnia September 26, 2024 4:17 pm

Bro I'm so disappointed. Listen, you're allowed to call me horny on main rn, but I saw the cover (lowkey showing off her cake) and thought there was smut at some point. So I was like ok, story's trash but hey if the smut's hot I can live with it - but NO. Miss me with that, I'm not gonna keep reading this knowing she'll stay dumb af.

    Nightingale September 26, 2024 5:23 pm

    Ahahaha..... Cake (≧∀≦)
    Oh well, we have the same mindset I guess

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