SoCalledSnipers November 22, 2020 6:21 am

I really hate the fact that we are nearing a WEEK of this mess. My nameless group disbanded, and I want to clean up the mess. Here’s an update:

Unfortunately, our chapter is still up. And Mangago clearly is not receptive of my requests to take it down. Sooner or later a different version will take its place hopefully sooner than later.

QVfamma reinstated their pages on their blog! All I can really say is that I’m relieved it’s back despite our stolen pages still being here... Please go check it out! I’m happy that Spanish readers can enjoy it again!!!

I am still remorseful and I don’t expect forgiveness. But remember, I am not here for trouble. Stay well.

    Foureyed.aslan November 22, 2020 4:10 pm

    WAITTTT I DONT FOLLOW. ITS NOT GONNA BE UPDATED ANYMORE?!?!?

    bjalex November 22, 2020 4:37 pm
    WAITTTT I DONT FOLLOW. ITS NOT GONNA BE UPDATED ANYMORE?!?!? Foureyed.aslan

    A knew scan group is taking over

    SoCalledSnipers November 22, 2020 11:57 pm
    WAITTTT I DONT FOLLOW. ITS NOT GONNA BE UPDATED ANYMORE?!?!? Foureyed.aslan

    No don’t worry! It is being continued in English!

    Foureyed.aslan November 23, 2020 4:03 am
    A knew scan group is taking over bjalex

    Oh ok thank youuu

    Foureyed.aslan November 23, 2020 4:04 am
    No don’t worry! It is being continued in English! SoCalledSnipers

    Ok thanksss

    sweet like sugar November 23, 2020 12:38 pm

    You guys made a mistake and it’s been a week now. Don’t beat yourselves up too much. And mangago rarely takes chapters down so it’s pointless to ask them. I think as long as the misunderstanding is sorted out between you and hero scans, you don’t need to keep apologising to people on here since I bet most of them won’t even know what’s happening. Just stop stressing about it and let the new group release their chapters

    Mardybum November 23, 2020 5:09 pm

    Never do this again

SoCalledSnipers November 20, 2020 11:59 am

Some of you didn’t get the memo. WE ARE TRYING TO DELETE OUR CHAPTER. Mangago is NOT helping us with the situation despite emails and messages and reports so we are waiting for Cross the Ocean Scans to finish their chapter. WE CANNOT REMOVE IT OURSELVES!!

SoCalledSnipers November 19, 2020 5:41 am

Unfortunately, our chapter is still up. We wanted deleted today but Mangago won’t listen. So... all we can do is wait for Ocean Scans to finish their versions (we do not know how long this will take).

You can read everything that lead up to this point on by clicking my profile!!

I will be offline for a few hours tomorrow, please don’t start a fire. Once again, are not here for trouble. If you have any questions just let me know.

    SoCalledSnipers November 19, 2020 5:57 am

    Also please stop arguing over the ethics of scanlation. We get it. You’re wasting your own time and energy when you fight with people on a site such as this.

    OHtheNovelty November 22, 2020 4:47 am

    Oh, to do that you get ALL the readers to report the manga. I think it happened with Dear Door, where people started to spam in the comments in alerting other readers how the chapter was uploaded without authorization. We managed to get rid of 5-6 chapters from Toxic Scans who, as their name says, were toxic as hell.

    That's a lot of work, I know, but that's the only way I've seen chapters be deleted.

    SoCalledSnipers November 22, 2020 6:05 am

    Thank you for this wonderful idea, it’s so chaotic (in a good way) and I could see this working. There was a point where every other comment was calling us out, BUT fortunately the dust has settled so I don’t think we’ll have enough people... Mangago is just infuriating.

    Don’t worry though. We still will have it removed when it’s overwritten by “official” scans hopefully within this week. Ty again.

SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 9:45 pm

All you need to know about the "Scanlation Drama":

- Vol. 3 Ch. 1 was uploaded unethically with QVfamma's pages AND without the permission of the previous group translating it; Hero Scans.

- Hero Scans has announced that they are no longer translating the series but Cross the Oceans Scans IS CONTINUING IT IN ENGLISH!! <- important

- We plan on REMOVING our update posted here on Mangago, but it has been OVER 24 hours since our initial take down request, so our new strategy to remove it is waiting for Cross the Oceans Scans to upload their version and overwrite it for us (WE DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG THIS WILL TAKE but we've heard there is some progress)

- We are hoping once this is gone QVfamma will reinstate their version of the comic for spanish audiences since it was removed from there blog. And we feel that that community should not be affected by our actions.

We've apologized, and I've dedicated myself in handling the situation. I believe transparency is important. We are not here for trouble.

SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 6:18 pm

Repeating for those who are unaware and I don’t want this to be buried. The recent update (Vol. 3 Ch. 1) is going to be DELETED soon. We have been WAITING for so long (more than 24 hours) for Mangago to remove it. It was sourced unethically and caused problems. We are not here for trouble.

    SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 6:52 pm

    Another Mini Update: Because of complications with Mangago, we are hoping Cross the Oceans Scans (the group now in charge of the English translations) can post their version and OVERRIDE ours. Like I said, I’m trying my best to get our version deleted. Hopefully this happens soon. Stay tuned for updates!!

    Chou November 18, 2020 6:53 pm
    This reply will be showed after approved! 04zyrx

    I mean if they rarely take it down even when the original authors start filing DMCA, what are the chances they’ll listen to a tiny squeak in the middle of their website when so much content is uploaded to their site daily? Especially when this new chapter is being so well received by readers lol

    SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 6:54 pm

    @04zyrx yup! I was told this by Hero Scans about that being more effective just as you wrote that message.

    SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 7:00 pm

    @Chou and that is why we’re hoping the replacement method could help us solve the issue instead. I am impressed by your dedication to this debacle.

SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 3:32 pm

A lot of you missed the message that we fully intent to take down the recent updated chapter, but despite multiple reports and requests it is STILL up. I made a mistake thinking it was already gone, but nope. We don’t have control over the page (it’s not a simple click and delete).

Don’t believe me? Here’s a screen shot of my two reports to manga go posted OVER 24 HOURS AGO now. https://imgur.com/a/82qgE6i

We want our updated deleted just as much as you do. We’re not here for trouble.

    SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 3:56 pm

    Mini update: Instead of a report, I just emailed Mangago AND Posted on their message board. Trust me, this thing is hopefully going down sooner or later.

    psychemenace November 18, 2020 4:10 pm

    Its too late. Your actions caused the original scanlators to drop this manga :(

    SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 4:12 pm

    I suggest you read my updates, click my profile.

SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 4:53 am

Today has been a stressful day for people in community, not only because a beloved series had been regrettably “sniped” by my small team (us), but also because the damaging effects it has caused. I would like to inform the community that we officially removed Volume 3 Chapter 1 because it violated Qvfamma’s work and took away Hero Scan’s motivation for this project. While we were blissfully unaware of the previous incidents, our team truly put a nail in the coffin and topped it all off. For that, we apologize.

We recognize our actions, and plan on moving past this incident today and hopefully compensating the groups involved. While we cannot say what the future holds for Qvfamma and the hispanic community regarding this title— we can confidently say that the English translation for this series will be up kept by Cross the Oceans Scans so no need to worry about Megumi and Tsugumi disappearing entirely.

I tried my hardest to handle the situation, but I 100% understand if you choose to continue expressing your distaste for our actions. It is rightfully deserved. If you have any questions, I’ll try my best to answer them.

Keep being amazing people, and don’t forget to support the author!

    SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 5:00 am

    I’m still seeing the chapter on different devices, I apologize if it is still there for some of you... not sure what’s happening.

    duckyroro November 18, 2020 7:18 am

    Thank you for taking responsibility... it is important to respect the hard work of others.

SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 4:48 pm

Cross the Oceans Scans Is continuing the scanlation of Megumi and Tsugumi!

Please use the link and follow their blog: https://heroscans.tumblr.com/post/635049754647281664/re-megu-tsugu

The situation with Qvfamma is pending. We will update you guys accordingly. We are not here for trouble. Stay safe.

SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 2:35 pm

We apologize for the inconvenience, but we are currently waiting for the latest update to be removed (as requested by me).

We are trying our best to get Hero Scans to re claim the title and as many of you know Qvfamma decided to remove their versions. Just as I said before, I will update you guys on the situation. We are not here for trouble.

    Mereen November 17, 2020 2:40 pm

    Could you explain better what happened? I'm so confused

    SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 2:55 pm

    Of course! If you’re not familiar with Scanlation Groups it is people who take a manga and provide a translated version of the story.

    Hero Scans has been in charge of THIS series since it’s debut, but recently my team added another chapter without properly getting the blessings of Hero Scans (my email never got to them). Once published, the result they decided to “drop” the series (as announced on their Tumblr page) and many were upset.

    We messaged them about the mix up, and are currently trying to get them to claim the series again while we wait for Mangago to REMOVE our update.

    As for Qvfamma, they are a Spanish Scanlation group who got mixed in the middle of this. They too decided to drop the series due to the repeated use of their pages throughout the months, but we are trying our best to reach them and tell them that we're backing down from the project and the Spanish community shouldn’t be affected.

    This update here is to let everyone know that we’re actively trying to correct our error. Hope this helps.

    juuulya November 17, 2020 3:20 pm
    Of course! If you’re not familiar with Scanlation Groups it is people who take a manga and provide a translated version of the story. Hero Scans has been in charge of THIS series since it’s debut, but recen... SoCalledSnipers

    Wait, then did y’all get the raws from renta or did you steal them from qvfamma?

    SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 4:08 pm
    Wait, then did y’all get the raws from renta or did you steal them from qvfamma? juuulya

    We are well aware our errors. The pages used for the initial chapter you see here came from Qvfamma, yes. The following chapters (2-5) were going to come from a Renta anthology (as they were found recently) but that is no longer happening. Hope this answers your question.

    juuulya November 17, 2020 5:12 pm
    We are well aware our errors. The pages used for the initial chapter you see here came from Qvfamma, yes. The following chapters (2-5) were going to come from a Renta anthology (as they were found recently) but... SoCalledSnipers

    Damn, here I thought y’all sourced honestly from your first statement... well, at least you know you were wrong and are trying to fix it. Cheers, I guess.

    SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 5:29 pm

    While I solemnly appreciate it, you don't have to be so forgiving of us. I apologize if I mislead anyone with my statements. Cheers to you as well

SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 1:51 am

It has come to our attention that many of you guys are upset over the upload of Vol. 3 Ch. 1. The result of which led to the scanlation group Hero Scans to “drop” the project, and cause many of you to lash out here in the comments.

I would like to inform you that we are in cahoots with Hero Scans regarding the matter. ONE of two things may happen; Hero Scan will claim this series again (we will have our upload deleted) and they will upload their version at a much later date OR my team will publish the third volume like we planned. I WILL update you guys on the conclusion.

We’re not here for trouble, stay safe. Please support the author. <3

    Pidapipo November 17, 2020 2:09 am

    Hi there, thank you for stepping out. Just wondering why you guys didn’t discuss with Hero Scans before making this move? Another manga I followed (Jujin Omegaverse Remnant) had a very slow scanlation group so someone decided to pick it up. BUT they let the original group know their intention, and respect the group’s request to leave out the chapter they were working on. That’s how it should have been done. You only have yourselves to blame for this mess :/

    SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 2:23 am

    Contrary to popular belief, we actually DID try to contact them 2 weeks before we pursued this. We’re already discussing this with Hero Scans.

    November 17, 2020 2:26 am
    Hi there, thank you for stepping out. Just wondering why you guys didn’t discuss with Hero Scans before making this move? Another manga I followed (Jujin Omegaverse Remnant) had a very slow scanlation group s... Pidapipo

    Im pretty sure they no that its their fault
    So u can shush now thank u

    DemFeels November 17, 2020 2:49 am

    We all appreciate your intentions so don't take what the anon below said to heart. I think your translations were just fine, only a bit of miscommunication.

    SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 2:51 am

    I appreciate the support, but there’s truth to every argument. This is a case HUGE miscommunications and we are working to correct it.

    Pidapipo November 17, 2020 3:22 am
    Contrary to popular belief, we actually DID try to contact them 2 weeks before we pursued this. We’re already discussing this with Hero Scans. SoCalledSnipers

    And the reason why you didn’t wait for the discussion to finish? I may sound unreasonable to you, because as a reader benefiting off scanlation groups like Hero scans, it’s natural that I support them and their interests (because why not?). I have no issue over transferring project into a group that can handle it better, I just can’t justify how you and your group chose to ignore everyone and proceed as you like. A more transparent transition would have hugely benefited how your group is accepted.

    SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 3:38 am

    You’re speaking purely on assumptions right now, you do realize this. I’m assuming what you want is for us to “explain ourselves” but to be frank I don’t feel compelled to. You play no part in this.

    ananon November 17, 2020 4:48 am

    a few questions:

    1) are you using your own raws or someone else's? the vague intro page saying you're "inspired" by qvfamma's translations isn't very helpful in light of past snipers just google translating over that group's scans - would be nice to know whether we can expect qvfamma will also drop the series in light of this or not.
    2) do you have any way for readers to contact you besides some burner mangago account that may or may not be responsible for these uploads? i notice no socials, no websites, no discord, which is convenient for you if you decide to disappear after getting bored, but leaves readers here up shit creek without a paddle if you do decide to dip, huh?
    3) did you bother to wait for hero scans to respond to your messages? you say you're in "cahoots" with them but have avoided answering whether they responded to your messages i've noticed....
    4) do you plan to get all the extras from each place that releases them? hero scans was kind enough to release all tokuten content, which qvfamma doesn't do jic you were hoping to work off of their translation without permission like others have in the past (and no, the jp r/enta volume release you keep linking won't contain all that extra content). in addition, do you also plan to release the second kuroji and harutsugu chapter that was released? that is also only in paperback copy rn until the volume releases - which could be a few more months, meaning you'll also have to put up with the same barrage of readers begging for updates every day - or, you would, if you'd bothered to link yourselves to the project in any concrete way.
    5) what will do you if/when megutsugu gets licensed in english? futekiya has been asking for those rights recently after all.

    ananon November 17, 2020 4:55 am
    You’re speaking purely on assumptions right now, you do realize this. I’m assuming what you want is for us to “explain ourselves” but to be frank I don’t feel compelled to. You play no part in this. SoCalledSnipers

    i ask all the questions i did above not to scare you or drag you either; in the end, i do buy the raws for myself and am more hopeful for that official licensing than i am hopeful about any scanlation group finishing this, so no skin off my back if you do or don't follow through. but frankly, it was naive of you to assume there wouldn't be backlash from you sniping a more reliable, credentialed scanlation group's work (which it seems you did because you keep avoiding giving details about how this """transition" has worked) and this kind of response to people pushing back doesn't inspire hope that you'll deal any better with the pressure of releasing a very popular series than hero scans did. to everyone here who doesn't buy officially: good luck lmao, i hope whining about how "sniping isn't a big deal bc we're all here reading illegally XD" works out for you.

    SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 5:06 am

    Not sure what you’re trying to get at, but I already said what I wanted to say in my original comment. Hope that helps you.

    ananon November 17, 2020 5:11 am
    Not sure what you’re trying to get at, but I already said what I wanted to say in my original comment. Hope that helps you. SoCalledSnipers

    oof, yeah, this just confirms for me you sniped everything. i'd say good luck, but i think it's the readers here who don't buy the chapters that'll really be suffering instead of y'all so.......hope this has helped you too, hun.

    SoCalledSnipers November 17, 2020 5:26 am

    And if that’s your conclusion, that’s fine with me. I’m solely here to deliver the message that we’re working to resolve this. Happy to hear you’re a supporter of Mitsuru!

    Pidapipo November 17, 2020 10:33 am
    oof, yeah, this just confirms for me you sniped everything. i'd say good luck, but i think it's the readers here who don't buy the chapters that'll really be suffering instead of y'all so.......hope this has he... ananon

    I guess both you and I got the answers to our questions( ̄へ ̄)

    lilo November 17, 2020 1:29 pm

    How about you get together with Hero Scans and help them? Maybe buy your own digital copy but use their translation or something like that. Because the waiting time for these chapters is always really long and as long as that is the case people will snitch... as this is one of the most popular BL mangas right now. So only way to resolve the snitching issue is faster uploads which means Hero Scans needs help. Your cleaning was really good and hq so I think that would work out just fine

    SoCalledSnipers November 18, 2020 2:42 am

    Believe what you want.

    WhyBeepBop November 18, 2020 11:00 pm
    This reply will be showed after approved! Slmarcotte000

    1) You're gaining nothing from arguing with them & you're being extremely rude 2) this scanlatation group explained the whole situation in detail here:
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1314669658870925&id=340641769607057
    And unless you are fluent in Spanish and read their post, you are literally being biased. Sorry.

    WhyBeepBop November 18, 2020 11:04 pm
    1) You're gaining nothing from arguing with them & you're being extremely rude 2) this scanlatation group explained the whole situation in detail here:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=13146696588... WhyBeepBop

    I got the scanlation groups mixed up actually. My bad.

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