There are so many comments hating on Jaeha but describing Eunho as some kind of saint. This may be an unpopular opinion but I think what Eunho did in season 2 is absolutely horrible! And I feel so incredibly sad for Jeaha. Hear me out.
As "WhatAWorld" said a few comments back: "[Eunho] initiated sex at [Jaeha's] workplace, shames him for actually being willing to do it, when they do have sex, he refuses to use protection or lube, is told it hurts, keeps going bc why tf not, shames him for having a dildo, etc etc etc - basically the same type of toxic shit that happens in other yaoi but I guess its acceptable because he got his heart broken?"
And this is to someone who is already broken, sad, regretful and who believes he has no self-worth. Instead of helping him Eunho decides to break him even more.
Eunho's toxic behaviour is TERRIBLE! This kind of shaming and using sex as punishment is the WORST! I HATE it! I freaking hate it! I think this hit me even harder than it usually does because it felt so realistic. I think one reason why this upsets me so is because it IS a real world problem. Men have always used sex and sexuality as a way of controlling, shaming, breaking and punishing women. And it's always women, and in this case the one taking the "woman's role" that is shamed the most.
What Eunho did is not okay. Using sex as punishment is NEVER okay. It doesn't matter that you are angry and hurt! He also threatened and blackmailed Jaeha. That must have hurt so much considering his previous trauma with sex and blackmail. Honestly, I think I can handle violence. At least then it's pretty clear it's wrong. But what I really can't stand is this sort of humiliation and oppressive mental abuse, as in "you deserve this". Or saying that he needs to give a blowjob "on his knees" just to humiliate him further.
Seriously, what Jaeha did wasn't good. But it's still his right to break up if he wants to. Considering Jaeha's abusive childhood, toxic first love and all other shit that he's had to endure in his life I'm surprised he isn't more messed up. He never had a loving family. The closest he got was Eunho's family. He believed he destroys everything around him. Eunho's sister begged him to stay away. I can understand why he didn't wan't to risk destroying the only good thing he had in his life.
And while he did end up hurting Eunho that wasn't his intention. He was trying to protect Eunho in his own way (even if went about it in the wrong way). I think that is the difference between the two. Eunho tried to hurt Jaeha is much as he could, in the worst way possible, just because he was angry and resentful.
Seeing all these comments rooting for Eunho as if he's some kind of innocent, wronged angel, while hating on Jeaha as if he's the devil himself honestly hurts me. I feel so bad for Jaeha, going through all that but people still believe that the one who sexually harasses him is in the right.
Also, (as if I didn't already write a whole ass essay lol),
- Jaeha isn't obligated to return anyone's feelings
- Eunho deliberately trying to make sex painful by not using protection and lube is wrong on so many levels.
- Jaeha is much older so he probably felt responsible and guilty. He probably wanted to protect him from the homophobic treatment he himself had to endure.
- Jaeha was probably afraid that Eunho's family, who were closer to him than his own family, would resent him for "turning their son gay"
- He was probably also afraid of Eunho's family abandoning Eunho for being gay, like his own family did
- It's not okay how Eunho guilt-tripped Jaeha to have sex with him
I try to console myself by that he in the later chapters realised what he did wrong, but it still didn't sit well with me. I mean, even after hearing about Jaeha's tragic past and acknowledging what he did was wrong, he's like "I don't know if I can forgive you yet so give me some time". I mean, shouldn't it be the reverse? Isn't it Jaeha who should be given time to forgive Eunho for all the terrible things he did?
Yeah but just one thing,if someone did what jaeha did to me Ngl I'd feel used for sex espectially with the way their relationship started and how jaeha mentioned that he never took eunho seriously before cause he believed that he wouldn't be able to have sex with him.
Why are there so many bastard semes out there who just continue to abuse, control and humiliate their ukes without any consequences, but as soon there is a bastard uke he will have to be cowed and dragged from grace. This uke lost everything and basically ended up as the seme's slave.
Are there ever revenge plots where the ukes take revenge in a similar manner for being mistreated? Or is the misery reserved for ukes? As in women (or anyone taking the woman's role) shouldn't dare to be in a position of power and if they are they will eventually be punished? (maybe I took it too far but isn't it kinda true?)
Maybe an unpopular opinion but neither of the MC's were good people. People seem to hate on Jaehyun and root for Sangwoo. While I think it was messed up of Jaehyun to expose Sangwoo like that for entertainment they are BOTH terrible. Sangwoo DID sleep with his boss's daughter. It's not like he was framed for it. He was exposed.
Sangwoo tried to use Jaehyun for his career so their relationship was kinda give and take (and he did get some money and promotions out of it if I didn't misunderstand that. Even if it was less than he hoped for).
And most of all, he WAS AN ASS TO HIS MUM! He not only didn't help her when she was abused, he even looked down on her, avoided her and pretended not to know her. Terrible!
Facts. I wish all the people the uke slept with to get where he got would’ve been exposed or something. I don’t think revenge plots with tops are a good look like Sangwoo, honey, you just got top tier a$$ and piles of cash and wanna complain because the uke doesn’t want you anymore?
Yessss!! Thanks for commenting! I agree! Revenge plots with tops generally make me very uncomfortable. Partly because it often takes the form of sex as punishment, humiliation, blackmailed into sex etc. Just made a long ass post on "Lover boy" about that haha.
Lmao so TRUE! He really got good ass and piles of cash xD
You make a very good point. Let's not forget that han may be an asshole. But he never forced anybody to sex. yoon is far from a saint. And he is pretty much trying to make han his slave. How could some people think that makes them even is beyond me.
Awww, they gotta do what they like, but I was really enjoying a dominant power bottom for once. Will we ever get to see that again? ╥﹏╥
If you guys haven't read the authors other story Shi Yi Lu yet you should! It's a prequel to this one! It has some chapters that were omitted from the main story. You'll see (if I understood it right) the smiling Tang person from the latest chapters and his interaction with the princess from when they were young. It will explain why he said she was "haughty" and basically insulted her to her face lol.
Yeah, I second this. I also recommend the prequel, bc not only her drawings is good even her coloring is quite unique and beautiful.
So I LOVE that this is a BDSM where the uke is the dominant/sadistic one (borderline too much with the blackmail but still enjoy the novelty of it). I have seen TOO MANY stories where the uke is hurt, blackmailed, humiliated, assaulted etc. so I really like the role reversal, even though it may be a bit extreme.
Does anyone have any recommendations for similar (BDSM) BL stories where the seme is made to kneel, give bj etc?
well plenty of tops will give a blowjob but in terms of being forced and humiliated into one....i never get to see it! true power bottoms are rare in BL land. its tragic tbh. someone show me them recs too...
Right?? I mean there are SOME more "dominant" ukes but even those are still more masochistic. Like they may make the seme tie them up, hit them etc. but in the end it's still the ukes who end up "humiliated". Give me a TRUE power bottom!
As for the blowjobs there are of course semes who goes down on their ukes but I think it's generally much more the other way around. Really bothers me actually. For me it feels like it's tied up in some sexist notion that it's the "woman's role" to please and go down on the man but he doesn't need to do it in return.
I feel like there are many stories where ONLY the uke goes down. And many others where the uke gives bj all the time but the seme only does it like once or twice. And also in general the scenes where the uke gives bj are much more graphic/violent/oppressive, like they are forced/humiliated into doing it, they have tears in their eyes, they have to deep-throat and swallow etc. Almost NEVER happen for the semes.
Sorry for rant ahaha. Just really hate that it is that way. But I love this story for being different!
Or do you have any recommendations for good seme on uke bj stories? ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
i cant off the top of my head think of like SPECIFIC intsances of top on bottom bj giving lol. but any of the lovey dovey BLs tend to have reciprocal oral sex but its not the kind involving choking and crying usually. (andi mean some BJ givers like the choking thing so u know...just depends on what ur into lol). if i do think of anything i will let u know tho. u can also always just check my profile i have an "already read" section with ratings and reviews and alot of it is BL so maybe that will help?
Hahaha no problem! Yeah it's true that the more lovey dovey ones tend to be more reciprocal, though many of them are more light/shounen ai as well. And it's not like I need choking and crying (damn I feel like such a degenerate for even writing that lol), it's just that I find it unfair that there is such a clear disparity between tops and bottoms. Haha true some may like the choking thing, I guess it's just a personal hang up for me where it bothers me.
I checked and it seems I'm already following you haha (such a stalker lol). I think it was from another thread where you gave some omegaverse recommendations (that were all great btw even though I usually dislike the genre). You do have a lot of great reviews (and topics) and I think we have relatively similar tastes so it's great! A real goldmine of inspiration haha ヾ(☆▽☆) But yeah if you come to think of any good top bj giving mangas/manhwas you're always welcome to drop a comment or something! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
PLEASE let this be a switch couple! I'm begging you! I love reversibles so much but they are almost non-existent! Since it hurt so much I would like to see them try if the other way works better! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
It's actually interesting how rare switches are in the yaoi world but when i watch western/european movies and to actual gay people, switching was so natural that it makes the who-gets-to-bottom/top drama in comics seem like a joke lol
Right?? The "equality" aspect, where the characters don't necessarily need to be tied to gender roles, is actually one of the main appeals of BL for me, and switch couples are the epitome of that. And I've also heard that it's very common in the real world so I don't get why they can't incorporate it more into BL manga/manhwa. It feels like they all try to follow some kind of template of how tops and bottoms should be. And that they are trying to force straightness onto the BL genre (which is very unnecessary since if I wanted to read something straight I wouldn't read BL to begin with lol). Feels quite disrespectful to real gay people as well.
Anyway, there are so many other crazy and messed up things that are commonplace in BL (mpreg, rape rape and more rape, tentacles (lol) etc.) but for some reason a natural consensual switch is like too much?? ╥﹏╥
Rereading this now and I had somehow forgot but Hyesung's dad is such a disgusting, horrible human being! He's basically a monster. So he said something along the lines of that he "let some alpha business partner have her", meaning he basically prostituted his own wife. He orchestrated it so that other men could rape his wife for his own profit. And then that continued to happen until she left.
And he seemed to consider doing it to his son too. Something like "You're so small. Are you sure you're an alpha. You're looking so much like your [omega] mum who was only good for using her body."
No wonder Hyesung is scared shitless about being an omega and lashes out when other people say he is. At first I thought it was about pride and his life being a lie. But it seems it runs much deeper than that.
Furthermore, he also mentally and physically abused her. Probably hit Hyesung too. After they had shown Byul to Dojin's family he thought they were nice for not cursing at them or hitting them as if that was normal. Made me tear up a bit. Hyesung's childhood is just so sad.
It makes me so angry that the dad got away with it. Now he apparently plays to role of a good father to his new kids. He should be in JAIL! (╬￣皿￣)凸
yo i am a disappointment to the world I.....ACCIDENTALLY DISLIKED.
"disappointment to the world" hahaha no worries! Has happened for me too! So annoying that you can't change it back! Thanks for telling me though! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
thank you for forgiving me sensei (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Is there any romance in this? Straight? BL?
Not that there has to be ofc, but it can sometimes add an interesting layer to the gender-bender genre (●'◡'●)ﾉ
Nope, no romance at all. It's more about friendship, the moral of the weak (when the one who were bullied are going to take revenge on the bully), regrets, growing and being able to forgive.
Oh okay! Thank you for answering! Sounds interesting! Do you think it's good?
I do. But the way the panel where separated made it difficult to read. Also, I think there are 73 chapters so I’m afraid you will feel that the end is a bit rushed
Looks like I was totally wrong ! It’s still on going so they are more chapters hopefully
No I was right ! There is an epilogue after chapter 73. How do I delete this ????
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Haha okay thanks for answering! (≧∀≦) Love that you came back to correct previous comments haha, so nice!! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I LOVE!!!! this chapter!! It's so wholesome! And it feels like it touches upon some real world (sexist) issues as well (sorry if I'm over analysing or being too political). For example, the woman oftentimes being expected to go down on the guy but never gets the favour returned (so unfair!). Or that some guys want to skip foreplay even if the woman is not ready resulting in pain and discomfort.
But wonderful amazing Mathew <3 really cares for and respects his omega. That bj scene was amazing! And as hot it would be to see them go further I really appreciate how Mathew respected his partner's wishes when he said no penetration.
I Can't agree more
So when Noah went down on Rex he mentioned that he only ever gives but never gets it in return, I was so SURE Rex was gonna bless us all by giving Noah his first ever bj!
(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ But now after finishing it he STILL never got it lol!
Poor Noah! ╥﹏╥
Poor us ╥﹏╥
(Still liked the story though! They were very cute together <3 )