first days, ao ashi, blue lock and now this! i’m in for a treat, i love sports anime especially if it’s soccer
i love ace of diamond and heard this was similar, this has a farely high rating, should i read and if so why? edit: i started reading and i’m on chap 41, i love it! it reminds me so much daiya i’m getting déjà-vu
the end of season 1 right? NOOOO i knew it was ending but this ending is too abrupt for me, i loved this story it was rocky at first but it handled itself later on, i hope to see atleast a side story of them getting married or more of their college life, maybe even a side couple
say it don’t leave us on a cliffhanger can’t wait for the next chapt i’m so excited
i hate the entire “uncle” x nephew trope or anything family even if they’re not related by blood
ew these types of tropes perpetuate predatory behaviour.
Really? Predators readers bl mangas to be motivated for committing predatory crimes?? Someone should tell FBI soon so they can prevent it by banning this manga...hurry up, call 912
Really? Predators readers bl mangas to be motivated for committing predatory crimes?? Someone should tell FBI soon so they can prevent it by banning this manga...hurry up, call 911
Don't read it. Bye! Don't keep reading it just to say this shit after every chapter, go and read some other fluff
why are you so mad? obviously i’m not gonna read it anymore! this was the first time i’ve read this tf? can i not state my opinion??
yep
no. it normalises these tropes, making it less severe in the minds of teens. making them more susceptible to these types of relationships (manipulation). i dont understand why you took it personally.
yes thanks for the tip pls stop acting like a bigot. the way ur telling us to go if we dont like it, you could've also kept ur verbal abuse to yourself. i love how we're sharing advice
You're an idiot if you think this "normalizes" anything. People can distinguish between reality and fiction...and those who can't, like you, have bigger problems that taking bl stories as life lessons or a guide to life in general. Please get help if you really think BL stories NORMALIZES anything. And stop reading it, you know, in case you get brainwashed eventually and end up becoming a pedophile yourself.
Yes please. Get out of here. As fast as you can. Nobody cares what you think. Nobody cares what you think is right or wrong. If you hate it, go read something else. Why share your unwanted opinion? What a tool
It's not a tip, it's not advice and I don't think you know what bigot means
Here's a word for you: idiot.
That's what you are. Now get out of here and go read shoujo shit and go back to your safe spaces
very insightful. i don't have the energy to argue with an intolerant person. thanks for sharing ur opinions. how nice :) let's both go about our own lives now.
Lololol "intolerant" using all your 6 words of woke dictionary here. You haven't called me racist, sexist and homophobic and transphobic and biphobic yet lol. Oh well. You're the one defending paedophiles with a guilty conscinece by blaming the BL mangas for brainwashing teens.
Do you also blame shoujo mangas for creating sexism in society? Or perhaps rape and sexualizing of women? I bet you do or you're the one who is homophobic and blaming only gay mangas for brainwashing teens. Since you think they're that capable of being "influenced" ....what a waste of education you are, if, you are, in fact, educated and not just literate. You'll know people have a mind of their own and can distinguish between right and wrong and real and fiction - and mor EVERYONE is as weak-minded as you are. Please get some help and some fresh air to see what real world and fiction actually means
will do! if i don’t like something i don’t like it regardless if people care or not, i can choose what i say on the internet :) also who says it was unwanted, obviously people agree lol take a deep breath darling
it really seems like you have some suppressed distress. are you doing okay? if you need someone to talk to, we can have a chat. i'm being serious
Seriously? You get off on acting pseudo-moralistic? So gross. Shut the hell up.
You called me intolerant and a bigot and you wanna act like the good person here? Fuck - off - you asshole of a person
Yeah, and you get off on people agreeing with you don't you? Next time you hate something, think if someone cares or not if you hate it. Because they don't. Get out of here now
If you even remotely think you're an upstanding person, think again. You need one long look in the mirror and moreover, you're the intolerant and bigoted person here. Not to mention a hypocrite. Moreover, you think everyone is stupid like you to "normalize" reality and fiction. God. Imagine being so ignorant.
idk it just seems like ur really angry at nothing. we were just agreeing with each other, but u came along with abusive language outta nowhere?
and the way ur speaking is pretty intolerant? it's not like im randomly stringing on words for no reason?
clearly u don't want to have a civil conversation, so please save everyone the time and frustration and just read or do whatever u were doing.
While I am against shizu chan way of telling you guys to not read it
But do u really think that this normalise anything ???
Like in yaoi or shounn ai there are millions of sick concepts and shoujo or Josei have heavy sexist concepts but I never saw anyone complaining
I agree with ur words that incest is so disgusting and it may the minds of teen manipulated but I think ur talk should be directed to all the shit out there
Cuz ppl in this site are even 9 and 11 years old reading heavy shit that my 25 year old self fears to read !!!
This manga isnot even considered incest cuz they aren’t blood related at all
With trying to understand ur points
And shizu point of view
Both of you right and wrong at the same time
Ur fear is acknowledged and I I know where u come from but
With manga having fiction and may have a concept that may trigger ppl
Each chapter is filled with preaching!! Like I get why the annoyance that shizu zhan talking about
If ppl hated manga for its concept so much why they bother coming in every chapter of this same mange ( not talking about you here )
So let’s be cool and enjoy what we want
U r free to say ur opinion and shizu too
As long as it is respectful
I get ur annoyance
But why bother telling them to go away when they just stated their opinion!!
Why do u think that no body cares !!! Just because u don’t
Plz be abit more respectful to others opinions
They do have a point about fiction being a method to tolerate shit
And I know how annoyed it feels to be preached each chapter but they were just stating their opinion in the first. Chapter
They didn’t come in the middle of the manga to say how such it is
Anyway enjoyable reading (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Then don't pretend to be some sort of upstanding moralistic person. It's disgusting.
i understand you. but i don't agree with how ur saying these tropes are not normalised?? like this manga right here amoungst many others literally are proof that it's normalised?? like it wouldn't be here if it wasn't.
how am i pretending? u don't even know me?
It's just so annoying. They do this in every manga.. you would see these same people doing this in the future chapters as well. That's how they get off - being pseudo-moralistic.
It's better to be harsh at the start so they don't spoil the rest. I get I was being rude, but it's so tiring because of these kinds of people.
I don’t mean it isNot normalised
I meant this specific manga doesn’t normalise anything cuz they are it blood related
In some countries that is not incest
Just like cousins relationships
Some countries don’t consider it incest as well many ppl can marry their cousins
I know what are u fearing to be normalised but this manga ( being not blood related ) kinda proves that it is still not normalised
just ignore it? u purposely came here to cause ur own frustration with this argument?
nobody needs to accommodate you, find your peace by yourself instead of demanding others to submit to your preferences. YOU leave and ignore the comments instead of fruitlessly arguing with everyone.
the intentional near-miss with the incest trope is the "proof" that im talking about. this is literally a textbook example of conditioning.
I get ur point and I know how annoying it gets
But maybe they aren’t the annoying ppl u think they are
Maybe they won’t be the ones preaching in the next chapters
It will happen anyway we all know it
But u just got harsh on some ppl that made their point of view in the very first chapter
And to be honest even if they continue reading it and said the manga sucks till the end of this manga that won’t change the fact that all ppl can respectfully say their opinion
We don’t have the right to tell ppl not to say their opinion
I know it gets very overwhelming but what we gonna do , ppl are different
So instead of being rude or get mad at ppl cuz we fear the annoyance of them or the any other ppl
Ignore what u dislike and that is it
Hope we all just solve it here
I really hope for y’all to enjoy ur time here cuz life is shit as it is
We all have struggles in real life
No need to make the only good part of our days bad for some argument
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Nah fam I clearly don’t understand cultures then
Cousins isnot considers incest or even bad things b many religions and cultures from like ages ago
That have nothing to do with the international incest trope
Cuz these cultures are there since forever
Incest is viewed by many ppl as relationships between the siblings who or parents uncles aunts and that is it
Many ppl actually never consider cousins to be incest
I have many friends from many parts of the world
And I can tell u for sure
This isnot normalising anything
This is what their beliefs are since forever
So actually that doesn’t prove anything
Oh fuck off don't read bl if you're so against conditioning. You're the one who will likely be brainwashed into liking such controversial plots. I assure you people who read these stories DON'T rationalise OR romanticize or CONDITION themselves to think it's even remotely ok. But that doesn't mean they can't read it or even enjoy reading it. SIMPLY READING SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE YOU A DEFENDER OF IT. Rapists or paedophiles or people in incestuous relationships are already that fucked up. I bet you blame violence in movies for violence in actual society too
Oh you mean near_ miss trope
As in not blood related !!?
Mm I think it is quite the opposite
We may have different opinions and I will respect That
But I really do think it is the opposite
Many shit here is clear incest ( no near miss )
Here I will actually say it is normalising
you know these "cultures" from ur friends, i know from first hand experience. don't mistake stuff like this for our culture, it's literally from collective mindset. don't confuse the two.
i never said this. also everyone is affected by implicit influence...
i don't think u understand what I'm saying.
Not from friends only But
First hand ??! And you don’t agree with ur culture ??
Many
I Read that many religions have that also
So ?? Collective mindset ?? I don’t think so
That is clearly different of opinions
It shows how we as humans can be different as long as we all agree on some basic concepts
You can’t be the one criminalising something that huge population of the world finds it normal
This isn’t it
U have all the right to accept or not accept something
But u don’t get to say ( normalising something is bad ) when it is actually normal for many ppl
im not referring to "near-miss" as a trope. I'm talking in the literal sense.
EWWWWWWWWW wtf are you saying??? Nobody is getting influenced who aren't already fucked in the head. If you think such things are so influential, you clearly see everyone in the world is so damn stupid that anyone would be ok with rationalizing incestuous relationships because they read a BL??? oh fuck off
If you're like that, please get help.
Even those people that read actual blood relatives in these mangas, they know it's fucked up. Trust me nobody who isn't already fucking their siblings/relatives thinks it's super gross. Still they can read it and not bitch about it. They know what fiction and real life is...
Clearly you don't and you think nobody else either.
I won’t argue with what is right and what is wrong
It is tiring really
We know it and also shizu zhan know it
I respect ur opinion
And I think u should know how annoying it is to preach at each chapter ( shizu chan point ) even tho shizu talked in a way Iam so against
Any way
All I wanted to say. Here is that we should respect each other even tho we have different views or opinions that is it
Best of luck y’all (づ￣ ³￣)づ
incest/manipulation/predatory behaviour is NOT anyones culture. i cannot believe u would reduce culture to something like that. it seems like you dont have much knowledge of the term culture.
and besides the point, just because something is accepted by the majority or even legally does not mean it's okay??? legality ≠ morality
dude why are u so encompassed by these perverse thought??? I'm literally talking in a general sense.
I never said that incest is culture
I said there are cultures that have cousins marry each other and they don’t think it is incest at all
Plz be a little bit understanding !!
How the hell did you get that from all of my words ??
Reduce cultures ?! I never said anything reducing or even meant anything like that
Plz don’t be so sensitive
Just read about it if u don’t believe me
I don’t think it is bad either
If u have a first hand experience I wonder how the hell you consider cousins incest too !!? Just cuz other ppl are against it ?!
I don’t have the knowledge now ???
Accepted by the majority is something coming from their freaking religion or culture !! Fam what is wrong with u really !??
What give u the right to decide what is moral and what is not
You call a whole culture or religion not moral just because of ur thoughts or opinion!!
Learn to accept other ppl
And btw
U said. I know it from friends when I have a Lebanese Distant relative and I know their Culture well cuz I spent so much time with her. !!
Plz be more knowledgable about what is right and what is wrong before preaching
Plz
I won’t bother with this anymore
Best of luck and have a great life y’all
that's normalised in my country too, and what? it's not culture??? just because they're done traditionally does not make it culture.
No you aren't. You're categorizing everyone as the same - like you, who thinks that people can't tell right from wrong when they're reading fucked up shit. I'll say it again - and it come as a shock to you - but NORMAL people can read and enjoy ANY FUCKED UP STORY without actually RATIONALIZING IT OR SUPPORTING IT IN REAL LIFE.
Don't blame others for being naive and easily manipulated by FICTIONAL STORIES when you're the one like that. People like you. So look in the mirror and get some ACTUAL education instead of forming opinions you read on Twitter threads.
damn u got ur education from looking in the mirror. now why am i wasting my time completing my masters. lemme learn from u, who is clearly in superior intellectual standing.
.......wow. no wonder you're so defensive. That's fucked up shit. This ain't just fiction to you then...trust me, other people who live in 21st century societies, who read mangas with taboo relationships find it EXTREMELY GROSS in real life, but they still read stories because of the actual plot and characters. Just because you read something doesn't mean you apply the same principles in REAL life. Unless you're already fucked up - you're a rapist or pedophile or fucking your siblings. So your preaching isn't needed AT ALL.
It's not intellectual. Its common sense. Which your masters in woke Twitter university doesn't teach you. Use your 2 brain cells to actually understand what tf is going on instead of being woke for 2 goddamn seconds lol. Actually you can just go and read some other shoujo cliche shit
stop projecting. go talk to a qualified counsellor coz ur clearly the one internalising everything you read not me. maybe you should go read a journal on manners and hypocrisy, then you'd finally see ur own actions clearly.
why do u keep bringing up shoujo? got something against anything not yaoi? stop ur veneration of ur fetishising behavior.
says someone in whose country cousins fuck and it's normal. We consider it gross in civilised societies. That's how we know how to distinguish between fiction and reality. Which apparently you don't.. no worries. Stay safe! Don't let BL eat you morality up.
"Fetishizing" lol. See? You're using all your 6 words from your woke vocabulary. Seems like you're the one with the guilty conscience...and you read BL because you're the fetishizing characters and that's why you get so uptight about when they don't meet your moral standards. Bruh.... you're creepy as hell
jaa maar kanjari aap ka dahmak kidaar hei.
teri maa ka sihr kha bathameez kuri.
No point in cursing behind your bigoted language. You coward.
Let me just say the same to you. teri maa ka sihr kha bathameez kuri. You're even worse than what you said. You're a disgusting hypocrite who belongs to a culture where you normalize incestuous relationship irl and can't say it's not just fictitious shit.
Good luck surviving in such a society
Just want to let OP and akaisho know that there are still people who agree with you even if the comment section makes it seem like there aren't!
the fact that ur so mad is so funny to me i promise you this entire argument isn’t that deep
ty! idk why they were so mad tho cause i’m allowed to not like something lol!
Because you said a dumbfuck statement about BL normalizing these fucd up relationships, idiot. They don't normalize shit, people know what theyre fucked up and those who don't think it is, are already fucked up. The point wasnt whether you LIKE or don't like this, you said something extremely stupid.
For you nothing is deep because you're a shallow person yourself, ain't ya? This argument wasn't an attempt to be "deep"...just you saying that proved what a 12 year old mindset you have. Nvm, you don't like it so get out of here.
ur so confused in ur own mind. NOBODY said any of these things. i am so sick of you. the damn TROPE is normalised. why are u still out here HUMILIATING yourself.
take ur own advice and stop annoying everyone. stop trying to call ppl out when ur actually the most immature one out here. nothing they said was shallow, ur just too vacuous to see the intended point.
lol thanks. that brings a lil hope. i just can't believe how anyone in this thread can defend these gross tropes, fiction or not.
thanks for ur very insightful argument. now just go back to reading ur perverse fiction and truly indulge to ur hearts content.
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why ya'll arguing i- bitch i got lost into the agrue 10 replies ago
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it’s been over 16 days ur late
I've read the whole argument and it's freaking funny lmfao but ye, I do agree with you. It's also an uncomfortable setting for me no matter how hard the author clears that they're not blood related. I'll stick around tho. The stalking guy got me curious tbh
everyone just needs to calm down, like sheesh Σ( ￣+￣')
does the crown prince know where he real ellen is? what happened to ellen? everything just came so fast i’m lost
he came a long way, now he’s going to work at one of the biggest hospitals. he’s gonna be famous and when he goes back to korea i can’t wait for jinhyun to beat sangmin’s ass
I NEED ANSWERS OMG I CANT EAIT FOR THE MEXT CHAPTER YOU CANT LEAVE ME LIKETHISSSSSS ┗( T﹏T )┛(also thank you update for updating this! i appreciate it!)