Kurou September 17, 2020 4:27 am

Just some days ago I found this manga again and read it for the memories and today it's posted the first chapter of vol 2 ... This is fate... I'm so happy TTuTT

Kurou August 27, 2020 7:52 am

Gentleman in the streets, beast in the sheets.

This is sooo my type! A mature, gentle, erotic, sexy, consented, communicative couple ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

Kurou August 27, 2020 5:35 am

It's just frustrating because... (And correct me if I'm wrong) what the hell are two people dating for if they don't share their feelings?!?? I mean that's the point of dating someone, right?!?? Or am I wrong? Have I been dating wrong my whole life?!???
If you don't trust your partner with your feelings (insecurity, fears, happiness, future plans, etc.) It's only a fling, a sex partner and NOT a serious commited relationship that is doomed to end sooner than later.

The point of dating someone is the (emotional) support, not just the physical presence. I think that's why so many people find annoying this uke/manga.

Keeping this couple together, as to how the characters are, feels forced, because we know that this kind of relationship is not going to last long... Unless there's some really important self growth and personal development, but that takes time, so it would be more realistic to show said growth with their next partners... But this is a manga so... They'll live happily ever after ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Rosa September 2, 2020 11:19 pm

    I think I'm gonna have to strongly disagree here lol.
    Just because you don't share your feelings with someone doesn't mean it's a fling and you don't love them (That's what I got from what you said, correct me if I'm wrong)
    You can be in a relationship and not share your feelings right away
    It takes time
    Like if you go on a blind date, you're meeting up with a stranger, why the hell would you want to tell this person about your life? So you continue to see them and just have conversations and meet ups until you feel comfortable enough to share your feelings
    If you don't trust your partner it also isn't a fling, you could just be insecure, I've seen it before, but as time passes by eventually you'll learn to rely and trust your partner, but just because you don't trust them and you're dating them does not mean it's a fling.
    I'd say people found the manga annoying because of the way the seme treated sexual harassment and how the uke was basically so quiet at points
    I also don't believe that the point of dating isn't only for emotional and physical support because I can get both those things for friends, when you date someone I believe you do it because you're interested in them romantically and would love to know more about them, you enjoy spending time with them romantically

    Kurou September 3, 2020 3:12 am
    I think I'm gonna have to strongly disagree here lol.Just because you don't share your feelings with someone doesn't mean it's a fling and you don't love them (That's what I got from what you said, correct me i... Rosa

    Uhmm...I get your point and I agree, I mean, I can't disagree, more accurately... I guess it's just my way of dating then... I'm the type of person that first gets to know very well the person, then opens up and THEN start dating. I can't date if I don't make sure the other person is aware of my feelings and I'm sure of theirs.
    I don't believe in the "let's start dating and then we'll see what comes out then" to me that's playing around, more like a gamble.

    Thank you for your pov, just reminded me that there's a lot of ways to date. Still... My first comment is what bothered me about this manga -o-

    LemonPyong October 14, 2020 4:40 pm
    I think I'm gonna have to strongly disagree here lol.Just because you don't share your feelings with someone doesn't mean it's a fling and you don't love them (That's what I got from what you said, correct me i... Rosa

    What’s more frustrating here is the Uke’s half-baked decisions. First of all, who the hell misses the birthday of their LOVER just to accompany someone who ISN’T EVEN THEIR FRIEND and has continuously HARASSED them at work?

    Communication doesn’t just develop in a day, that’s true, but if you only date someone because you are attracted to them romantically and have no future plans whatsoever, then I’d say that’s just a fling, or rather unstable, or even close to being toxic.

    Also, if this is the definition of REALISTIC RELATIONSHIPS then count me out.

    I’ve had gay friends who are very open to their partners.

    Love is NOT COMPLICATED, what’s complicated are RELATIONSHIPS, relationships that has no proper communication.

    Rosa October 14, 2020 5:17 pm
    What’s more frustrating here is the Uke’s half-baked decisions. First of all, who the hell misses the birthday of their LOVER just to accompany someone who ISN’T EVEN THEIR FRIEND and has continuously HAR... LemonPyong

    My explanation wasn't referring to the story at all
    The person had talked about relationships so that's where my explanation came in
    Since the manga is fiction idk how to explain their relationship and idk what the author was doing or what they were going for
    But I explained relationship from experience
    I honestly don't even remember what this manga is about

    Kurou October 14, 2020 11:31 pm
    My explanation wasn't referring to the story at allThe person had talked about relationships so that's where my explanation came inSince the manga is fiction idk how to explain their relationship and idk what t... Rosa

    I was just comparing the situations in this manga to my personal experiences orz

    Rosa October 15, 2020 12:25 am
    I was just comparing the situations in this manga to my personal experiences orz Kurou

    Oo

Kurou August 27, 2020 4:51 am

Another one of the troupe "the seme can have sex with other people while the uke leaves before getting started because he can't get the seme out of his mind"

Just WHY? Want to make the uke seem pure and the seme badass? What year is it? It's fucking 2020 not 1990 for fuck's sake...

    Syrupy Pancake November 15, 2020 12:13 pm

    Pretty sure the same didnt have sex with anyone else

    Syrupy Pancake November 15, 2020 1:17 pm

    Nvm I just read the whole thing

    Kurou November 15, 2020 1:59 pm
    Nvm I just read the whole thing Syrupy Pancake

    Good n_ñ'

    Syrupy Pancake November 15, 2020 2:19 pm
    Good n_ñ' Kurou

    Yea I hate that trope a lot but I'm not really mad in this case. Cause it seems like the seme only slept with him to get the stuff for blackmailing tho it still seems unnecessary and he probs should have done it before cause it would cause less problems.

    Kurou November 16, 2020 5:01 am
    Yea I hate that trope a lot but I'm not really mad in this case. Cause it seems like the seme only slept with him to get the stuff for blackmailing tho it still seems unnecessary and he probs should have done i... Syrupy Pancake

    I wasn't questioning the character's I was questioning the intention of the author by creating that situation... This is just my personal taste and opinion though... I don't like that the seme is portrayed as a sex symbol, omnipotent and omniscient and the uke is treated as a pure and innocent damcel in distress... ( ̄へ ̄)

    Syrupy Pancake November 16, 2020 11:55 am
    I wasn't questioning the character's I was questioning the intention of the author by creating that situation... This is just my personal taste and opinion though... I don't like that the seme is portrayed as a... Kurou

    Yea I totally get you. It's unnecessary mist times unless it adds to the story and it didnt just like the ex was actually coming back.

    Electra December 10, 2020 10:41 am

    Hol up
    When does it mention that? I probably missed it bc I skimmed through the chapter too fast ( ̄∇ ̄")

    snoopy December 24, 2020 2:39 am
    Hol upWhen does it mention that? I probably missed it bc I skimmed through the chapter too fast ( ̄∇ ̄") Electra

    chapter 5 kinda at the beginning

    snoopy December 24, 2020 2:40 am

    yess I hate this kind of troupe,it's such a cliche nowadays. and it also made the seme seems very untrustworthy.

Kurou August 25, 2020 5:15 am

I feel so out of place wanting to comment the manga I've just read... But here I go... (●'◡'●)ノ

The relationship development was just TOO rushed! One panel the seme is flirting with girls and the next he's chasing after the uke and dragging him to a karaoke and then bum, playing with his nipples and the straight-but-not-so-straight uke just lets it happen and starts moaning? The pace was so strange and rushed that I couldn't feel and follow anything that was happening. And then the seme is already in love? Since when? Who saw it coming? And then, and then the uke is also in love...? Where are the feelings development? Like the drawing is great, the Smut is great but the storytelling is not so great.
And if you, random reader, still have doubts about the MC's feelings, lets put a cool handsome gay character out of nowhere and stir things up... At this point I stopped caring about the plot and just enjoyed the smut... Thats what I should have done from the begging... Just see this as a classic yaoi, a good old PWP ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

Kurou August 24, 2020 7:51 am

It always bothered me... Why only one brother moved out? Or... Why move out at all? If he's still attending the same uni?
Every time I read this manga that bothers me more than the whole plot -_-

    YaoiZONE August 26, 2020 7:23 am

    Because..they want to..?

    Kurou August 27, 2020 3:27 am
    Because..they want to..? YaoiZONE

    I thought so too... But still it bothered me orz
    I always tried to find the logic there. His family home is not so far from uni, he still has class and not working yet, so I can't comprehend why want to pay an extra rent

    YaoiZONE August 27, 2020 3:41 am
    I thought so too... But still it bothered me orzI always tried to find the logic there. His family home is not so far from uni, he still has class and not working yet, so I can't comprehend why want to pay an e... Kurou

    Because they can have segg with anybody bothering them

    Kurou August 27, 2020 4:42 am
    Because they can have segg with anybody bothering them YaoiZONE

    I don't think is for the sex, if so he wouldn't let the MC stay with him and a love hotel would do the trick... Ahh... Nvm sorry for dragging this...
    I know story-wise is to give the MC's the situation... But I'm just too petty ( ̄∇ ̄")

    fujoshiweeb November 14, 2020 2:57 am

    and Shin is the older one too

    YaoiZONE November 14, 2020 4:14 am
    I don't think is for the sex, if so he wouldn't let the MC stay with him and a love hotel would do the trick... Ahh... Nvm sorry for dragging this... I know story-wise is to give the MC's the situation... But I... Kurou

    Tbh I don’t know but in one of the chapters they were talking about how the house with Jin and stuff idk

Kurou August 23, 2020 5:50 am

In the end is just the uke hopelessly running to the arms of the "full of himself" seme... ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
At least make the seme chase a little more after the uke for a change! Not confess after FIVE FUCKING YEARS, wait a couple of days and win him over geez

    moody_bish November 6, 2020 2:56 pm

    The senpai told himself he'd confess once they met and he did. But I agree with winning him over because that library kissing scene was sexual assault and I'm glad Hibi rejected him. And i don't think Hibi ran into the arms of someone who is full of himself. The senpai did accept being rejected just like Hibi wanted, but Hibi was consistently shown to have had feelings for the senpai even if it was hate because he admitted disliking being away from his senpai after meeting him again.

    Also, when they began dating and especially during the basketball scene, this is the senpai trying to win Hibi over. Cause courting never stops even your official, isn't it?

    Kurou November 6, 2020 4:35 pm
    The senpai told himself he'd confess once they met and he did. But I agree with winning him over because that library kissing scene was sexual assault and I'm glad Hibi rejected him. And i don't think Hibi ran ... moody_bish

    I get where you are going, but he didn't explain anything to uke, didn't have a proper conversation. He just pushed him and forced his feelings.

    You know that he "intended to confess" and that at that time he wasn't sure of their feelings not because he told the uke, but because of his conversation with the granny. In all that time he didn't bother to look for him, so it was more like "ohhh I remember him, guess I'll confess now that he's here" to me. He bet in the confession he once received from uke and was so sure of uke's feelings for him, that bothered me.

    Uke spent 5 years trying to forget and get over his crush and the seme just waited "patiently" until uke came to him again.

    I know it's romantic and all, that's the point of the manga, to give the message "omg he's so in love, he waited for him for 5 years and now he's doing everything to win him over" but did he? Waited for what? He dumped him and told him his feelings were not real and selfishly 5 years later make a move and make him love him again and only because of the coincidence of uke working in the same place.

    moody_bish November 6, 2020 5:01 pm
    I get where you are going, but he didn't explain anything to uke, didn't have a proper conversation. He just pushed him and forced his feelings.You know that he "intended to confess" and that at that time he wa... Kurou

    If that's how the story affected you, I won't argue. Nonetheless, it's true that it's because I am given Sugino's perspective that I am less aversive of his character (but i seriously hated how he forced himself on Hibi at the library ugh) at the same time it's because it showed his impatience, the regrets and consequences that it made him more human. The plot becomes less 2d because it's not perfect and they are distinct character meeting halfway.

    Sugino wasn't given an easy out just because he loved Hibi and Hibi wasn't written out to be an easy catch. I have to disagree with how you phrased the message of the story though because it simplified the conflicts and emotions too much.

Kurou August 21, 2020 9:12 pm

Cute, cute, cute!!!
This is so heart warming and pure!!
And what's best is the consent... O gosh this is so cute!

Kurou August 21, 2020 1:18 pm

I could have enjoyed it better if it wasn't for the random colored pages that pop up now and then...
I don't want to be rude (though I am being ╥﹏╥) but it just breaks the flow.. I would prefer them at the end of each chapter or something like that... Argg.. I hate myself for being this petty

Kurou August 21, 2020 2:29 am

Am I playing mario kart or reading a manga? This was just too fast

    fujoqueen August 21, 2020 7:14 am

    IM. WHEEZING.

    Txnx August 23, 2020 12:36 am

    You've killed me

    Kurou August 23, 2020 6:06 am
    You've killed me Txnx

    Sorry.....? ):

    fujoqueen August 23, 2020 10:56 am
    Sorry.....? ): Kurou

    she meant it in a good way

    Txnx August 23, 2020 7:48 pm
    Sorry.....? ): Kurou

    Ah maybe my english is bad or that's not an english expression sorry

    Txnx August 23, 2020 7:48 pm
    she meant it in a good way fujoqueen

    Exactly

    Kurou August 23, 2020 8:19 pm
    Ah maybe my english is bad or that's not an english expression sorry Txnx

    Lol nooo, what got me was the crying faces

    Txnx August 23, 2020 8:41 pm
    Lol nooo, what got me was the crying faces Kurou

    Ahhh okay, crying face just means that I'm crying of laughing

    Kurou August 24, 2020 3:56 am
    Ahhh okay, crying face just means that I'm crying of laughing Txnx

    Ok

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