I think Hyung is in on it!
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I am with you 100%
Agreed, he seems so tight lipped, almost like he is just waiting for all of this to turn out as he planned.
haha! this page! "where the heck did this come from?"
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_prince_is_depressed/nbt/94d2beecf4320183/Ch1/30/
hahaha i just got there, suddenly a rose appears ^^
yea! all i could think was "silly boy don't you know in manga/anime ALL princes have the power to make roses magically appear out of thin air, silly silly boy!"
gaah!! let him go home! stupid woman!! ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
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He's gotta save Ryota!!
I only come back here now for the comments. You guys are all my guinea pigs. I'm not reading this manga again until you guys start talking about happy endings lol!
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Good idea, i should follow your lead
Lol! somehow, that is just super innocently cute!!! XD
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if you read the afterword on pg 29, here:
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/ookami_shounen_to_hamu_no_hito/mh/c001/29/
...you get a taste of the mangaka's real-life experience
What's up with this?
Don't make rape cute. People interested in a rape plot aren't looking for cute, and people looking for cute aren't looking for rape. This is like... weakly trying to broaden your audience?
Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I should say "when I'M looking for a rape plot, I'm not looking for cute". Anyway, that's what I think.
I just wish the uke wouldn't be such a push-over and that they wouldn't make rape seem like nothing, because doesn't that just defeat the purpose of using rape in your plot?
Im with you. The same happened to me with katakoi kazuku. Rape as something cute, funny, like is nothing is disturbing.
"Don't make rape cute."
It is how you perceived this... don't fault the author on how you saw this..
"doesn't that just defeat the purpose of using rape in your plot?"
I don't think so..!! this is used ever since yaoi is introduced..
"Rape, used as an essential plot device, serves the purpose of bringing the two characters together in a romantic relationship. Rape functions as the catalyst for romance, speeding up the process of falling in love while providing explicit sexual scenes to arouse and pleasure the viewer. Because sex is the plot in yaoi , unnecessarily long relationship developments are eliminated. However vulgar rape may seem, it efficiently creates sex and romance in yaoi . Once the two characters are together and the feelings are mutual, there ceases to be a plot-based need for “rape as an expression of love” between the seme and uke and the sex thereafter is entirely consensual." (Based on Research and Book: The_Prevalence_of_Rape_and_Child_Pornography_in_Yaoi)
this is what you call cliche.. meaning it's been over-used.. fantasy rape is "romanticized"
but nobody said it is cute.. it is how you interpreted the scenes..
don't you think the fault lies in your own logic?/
You say "fault" lies in my own logic but as you also say, isn't this a matter of perception? certainly rape in yaoi can be perceived as a catalyst to speed up the order of events in a relationship, to create a perceived "true pairing". This is exactly what I mean when I say "making it cute".
While I realize that yaoi manga are not real life and that it is NOT it's goal to be fully realistic but to instead be entertainment, I also believe that the perception of rape often presented in manga belittles real life situations and causes us to lose our empathy for those who experience it in real life.
I can see in myself how I have lost empathy in general for victims in rape because of how I perceived my first manga rape scenarios. I used to feel real empathy for the victim, feeling shocked at the violation and mockery of calling it "love", and angry that in the end the rapist was forgiven. Love is caring more for the other person than you do yourself. If you care more about them than you do yourself, you won't put your own pleasure above your partner's feelings of safety.
Since then I've encountered plenty of rape yaoi scenes, and I can say it didn't take me long to reach the point that I was no longer even "suffering through it". It truly had become just the catalyst for the relationship on its way to a "happy ending".
Even in this manga, I'm against the rape because I KNOW it's wrong, not because I feel the empathy that i SHOULD feel. What annoys me about this specific manga is that they are not only using the rape to move along the relationship, but they don't even slightly touch the idea that the rape is bad. The SEME says things like "but it's not rape" - well isn't that for the uke/victim to decide? (And "the uke felt good too" is not the same as consent.) The definition of rape is not "how much the seme loves the uke while doing it", it's "both parties consented to this". If the uke keeps "accidentally" calling it rape, that's a clue.
I'm sure this comment is way to heavy - and really, taking that laid back point of view, I'm mostly annoyed at the uke's personality for being such a push-over and the seme for completely ignoring the uke's feelings. But in my first comment, I already toned it down for the sake of "this is yaoi fantasy". I believe that every non-fiction work should at least acknowledge that the wishes, feelings and even mental well-being of the victim of rape were completely disregarded and not respected.
If you want to hear someone else's take on rape in fiction (and one far more interesting and well thought out than mine) read this:
http://www.newstatesman.com/cultural-capital/2013/03/rape-james-bond
I actually really liked that last story. falling for and chasing down your stalker lol!
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Just kinda had a real life stalker experience. Thought stories like this would disgust me now. It still so darn cute!
I think that's because we know it's mutual, and that the two of them go way back...
Probably. (=・ω・=)
Lol! every time I come back to read one of your comments I end up rereading the story!(⌒▽⌒)