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There really isn't much hate here. Most of the comments are people saying they like him or feel sorry for him.

I guess this is a matter of perception as it is what I've picked up throughout the threads since this manga was first uploaded. And I maintain that there's a lot of negativity directed at Hanjun and/or his relationship with Jaeha downplayed to justify Jaeha's apathy; the last 4 sympathetic threads or so notwithstanding.

You totally explained my "problem" with this character! Up until now, I really don't get Jaeha. He seems to "float" around, being led into relationships when pushed into, receiving but barely giving anything back. I keep hoping for a change of attitude at each new chapter - mainly bc of Eunho, now -, and perhaps an explanation to why he's turned out like this. He's getting on my nerves though...! (╬￣皿￣)凸

Actually there's more hate for Jaeha than Hanjun. But with Hanjun, people's problem with him is what he does in his jealousy. Picking up calls during sex then deleting the call,

Hanjun is a mature man. He did not want to do anything even when he had feelings so now being possessive simply because Jaeha has interests in someone else is petty at best. Hanjun has acknowledged that Jaeha does not see him anything else but a warm body to fuck. Look at the way he says 'you call me when you're lonely'. He knows his place, so to start something now is totally petty. If you want a clean break, then ask for it. Jaeha has made their relationship clear, has never once promised something beyond sex. Hanjun is not entitled for a clean break when Jaeha has made it clear that he feels nothing for him. It's Hanjun's own prerogative to give himself that closure, not Jaeha. And if Jaeha does not give it to him when Hanjun asks, then it's Jaeha's fault. But for now, Hanjun is a grown man, he knows that their r/s is built on sex and loneliness. You can say that after 20 years(we don't know if they had sex or contact for this whole 20 years), there should be some investment of some feelings but that's simply not true. Actually after 20 years, he should only be more certain where he stands. IE, the fact that he sees Eunho as a threat also preludes to the fact that he knows that Jaeha does not have any feelings for him and how easy it would be for him to be with Eunho if Jaeha lets go of his doubts. He knows all this.

Hanjun has himself provided Jaeha the ease of a sexual r/s for Jaeha. He does not ask him to remove the ring, does not care if Jaeha only calls him for sex or when he's lonely. Hanjun has set a stage where feelings don't matter and Jaeha accepts it because that means sex with Hanjun does not come with any complication. If there were investments of feelings, Jaeha would have probably left (look at the way he dd not want to accept Eunho). It's more logical to say, that their sexual r/s only continued because there were no feelings involved to complicate things. Meaning if Hanjun felt that he was not being cared for enough, he would have ignored Jaeha for awhile and that makes it more difficult for Jaeha to have sex. And thus Jaeha would have probably went for someone else that does not give him that much trouble. The fact that Hanjun doesn't, is why Jaeha and his sexual r/s continued for so long.

Butting in to act like a 'nice' guy when it's mainly because of his jealousy. Since he could not affect Jaeha, he's now going to try to affect Eunho. I'm really glad Jaeha points out his hypocrisy.

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/lover_boy_lezhin/uu/lover_boy_lezhin-chapter-20/17/

Look at the end. He knows his place. It's quite presumptuous for him to act like he deserves a clean break when he clearly knows where he stands.

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/lover_boy_lezhin/uu/lover_boy_lezhin-chapter-20/16/

Jaeha's reaction to it is the part that made me start to like him. He knows what Hanjun is doing, we could have more chapters and chapters of Jaeha being uncomfortable about what he's doing but he knows that Hanjun is trying to rile him up by acting like Hanjun doesn't know what's happening. Even Hanjun knows his bluff false flat on his face.

I will have to disagree on the fact that both Hanjun and Eunho are in love with Jeaha whom is stringing both of them along, it is Jaeha whom holds the power in this three way relationship; therefore, it is his responsibility to define what each person means to him and/or make a clean break with either Hanjun or Eunho, but he's not doing that. Of course both Hanjun and Eunho can give Jaeha an ultimatum or at least demand for him to define their relationship at any time, but they won't do that because they are the ones with the invested emotions and they don't want to push Jaeha, because he's the one in control. They will take whatever crumbs Jaeha gives them; they both have the losing end of the stick because they are vulnerable to their feelings. Since Jaeha holds the power, or emotional advantage in the relationships, it is up to him to end with one of them or continue with both of them. Also, even though I agree that Jaeha is not in love with Hanjun, it is illogical to interpret that he feels absolutely nothing for him, considering everything I had already stated in my initial post. But, irrespective of Jaeha's lack of romantic feelings towards Hanjun, there is a 20 year old friendship involved (this is no stranger he met at a bar for casual sex), plus he knows that Hanjun does have romantic feelings towards him, therefore, it is his responsibility to put an end to their relationship.

I guess that it all comes down to what type of ethics one has and ours seem to be on polar opposites. It is clear to me that if I have held sexual relations with a childhood friend for a long period of time (irrespective if it was an on-off relationship) and I started a new relationship with someone else, I would consider it my ethical responsibility to let the person know it's over; unless, I wanted to let that door open just in case, which would effectively be an act of selfishness.

I think this is manhua not manwha. But either way yeah you are right it will take forever XD

A-freaking-men!

I had a moment of almost crying with tears and everything when I read your comment, and I don't cry very often.