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Bruh many yaois are way rapier than this shit. This is fantasy, it's porn. It's supposed to be hot not moral.

There you have it c:

The fact that there are some mangas way worse than this one doesnt make it right. Even though its a fantasy, it still makes me feel sick, it isnt hot for me at all.

I'm just sayin, if you have time to complain about this one how about you spend it complaining about the really shitty ones like Okane ga Nai, Koisuru Boukun, or Caste Heaven.

First, because I complain about what I want to complain about. And I was reading this manga and not another one, so I complained about this. Second, I do whatever I want with my time. Take care of yours. LOL

There are better things to do than get butthurt from a fictional pornographic comic lol

There are better things to do than get butthurt from a different opinion than yours lol

Totally molestation, with you there... but consent given afterwards is still consent, dubious as it may be. There's another comic with an extremely similar premise (guy routinely screws his friend while he's sleeping) where this is addressed in the "that was NOT ok" way and the difference between the two comics and how the characters handled it is rather striking.

Dubious moral grounds abound in yaoi land!

If we're calling people butthurt then you making a comment and religiously replying to all of it's replies because you didn't like a manga is a sword in the sphincter.

Yeah you can't deny that this was a messed up story. That's so scary ack! Imagine it happening irl! Then regret that you imagined that! He literally did just sexually abused his friend with no consent whatsoever!

Don't disrupt the safe haven for the immoral it's not that hard to ask okay. Leave me to my slightly fucked up stories and we are all aware of the line between reality and fiction

I wonder why they're reading yaoi then complaining about yaoi stuff. They should just go back to reading shoujo's for fluffy duffy story with super upright moral plots or whatsoever.


They're ruining my fujoshi moment. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

But can't you admit that this was a pretty disturbing story about a dude raping his best friend while he was asleep and his best friend had no idea whatsoever about this? This wasn't a really good story more of a disturbing one that ended up being really unrealistic.

Nah. After being a fujoshi for years, I can say this is a pretty soft story. Like what I was saying before, we, fujoshis, know and we are aware that these mangas has rape and other elements, and we read it because WE LIKED IT. These mangas lets us dream, fantasize. And YES this has become the norm in yaoi mangas, this has been the norm WAY BEFORE we're even aware of yaoi manga. We became fujoshi because of these reasons and not the other way around. We respect others reading shoujo and their shoujo mangas, so please respect us, our yaoi mangas and our fetishes.


Disclaimer. No, I'm nota supporter of a REAL LIFE RAPE, we know what is real and what is fantasy so calm yo tits. And for those who will say "oh you bitch you support rape blah blah blah". I saw a lot of hypocrites here who bashes yaoi with elements of rape but reads a yaoi manga with shouta in it and WE DIDN'T judge you ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I still dont get why so many people were so easily offended. You can argue as much as you want, but you cant deny that he sexually abused his friend and that this is wrong. Saying that this manga is lovey dovey etc is bizarre and that was what my initial comment was about. Now if you enjoyed the story and think it's okay because it's just a manga, then we're already discussing something else, right?

I got a bit lost reading your comment, maybe because my english is not very good, but... I dont know what the "norms" of yaoi and being a fujoshi are, but I know what > I < like and what > I < dont like. I know that some Yaoi have this kind of content, but that doesnt meam that I need to enjoy it to be a Fujoshi. If you like, its ok, everyone has your own preferences and we all show respect that.

I'm sorry for the english. Not my first language. ┗( T﹏T )┛

"You dont like rape yaoi, go read shoujo" Yeah... Because every yaoi manga is like this one. You're right........................ I wont stop reading a genre that I like just because one manga didnt please me. And as far as I know, I cant have an opinion and talk about things that I dont like, so... If YOU dont like my opinion, my topic etc, you can ignore and just go away. Or you cant stay and discuss, instead of crying "omg they said its bad sobsob"

I think you misunderstood what I said. If you dont like my opinion you can ignore and go away OR you can stay and discuss instead of crying. Go back and read again pls, then we can talk (or not)

I will try to explain one more time... I support every healthy discussion! Because you are FREE, I believe you can come here and express your opinion, but you can also ignore and go away if you think its better. All I said is that I prefer if you discuss instead of keep whining, because someone doesnt agree with you. And if we are talking about freedom of speech... What about people saying that I should read shoujo? Saying that Im not a fujoshi? Saying that I should shut up instead of ruinning the mood? Who is really trying to shut up who here?

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you were basically telling op to go elsewhere because they voiced out their opinion on other people labeling this manga as "cute" "lovey dovey" when it's not (opinion that its not cute), it's rape (fact because uke DID rape seme). you're the one here trying to shut someone up. yet you talk about freedom of speech? hypocritical of you isn't it?

as for op, people can see of this as cute all they want if they think it's cute. they can say this manga is cute and lovey-dovey all they want. you don't have to tell other people to not use specific words to describe this. if you know opinions, then you should have known it's their opinion this manga is cute.

Yeah , I find it disturbing as well that people use "cute" , etc to describe it , but I think they're misrepresenting their thought . They probably have rape fetishes , etc and this is the perfect jerk off material for them . They probably would condemn it in real life ,or if the uke "resisted enough " , or if the rapist wasn't a pretty boy ( was fat/unattractive) because that'd break their fantasy . So don't pay them any attention , they don't really mean any harm . It's just delusions and defence mechanism .
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Btw , don't mind the onslaught of defensive comments either . We all get them (in the yaoi fandom) .
People just can't seem stand it when you break their fantasy ...
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But I'd disagree on one thing maybe , the you "shall not" may have sounded more like a command / personal attack on people who find this manga arousing rather than an opinion . Other than that , I totally agree with you .~
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For God's sake this conversation is still fucking going on OMG people let it reattach already

I mean , you could just mute if you don't wanna get notifs ?
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But honestly tho this question was posted in December 2017 and it's now March 2018

Lol , that's a long time . Did I just pull it out of the grave again ?
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Though , I really didn't notice the posting date ...
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wow a bunch of bitches calling each other bitch. how entertaining

" The Real Fujoshis of Mangago " ?

Exactly. This fantasy is not to be taken literal and moral, it's just porn with a longer plot than normal videos. It's like complaining about why in a porn a chick fucking her brother is inmoral... it's a fucking porn, no one cares if the premise is moral or not cuz we're here for something else.

Yeah, really. This is meant for enjoyment, and the Seme agreed anyways, it's not like he kept doing it eve after he was told to stop. Why'd you even read it of you hate it this much? If you got all the way through the manga then you should've left earlier if you were going to get this butrhurt over it. Have a nice day ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

+1000 points for your answer ヾ(☆▽☆)

wtf is wrong with those people who are justifying rape?
GOD..U R MINDS ARE FUCKED :|
so fiction suppose to have rape and u r fantasizing about getting raped....*disgusting*
i am a fujoshi for almost 8 years now but i don't understand the idiots who call rape cute...
y'all are still kids, aren't you?

Deme was the Taurus and the Uke was the Aquarius; I’m mad about the profile not being there too!!

Totally agree with you, I hated it from the start, just finished it in hopes it would have a different ending.... Uggg I feel disgusted

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As a fellow girl and yaoi lover I totally understand and agree

That's the reason i stuck in this genre~ ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
I dunno how to put me back on the shoujo's path *sigh

When you find out let me know

Shoujo is not an option anymore. Sad but true. LOL Im not sad at all, bring me more Yaoi pls <3

I am exactly the same way!! I tried reading shoujo but went right back to yaoi and dont plan on leavin.

I SO AGREE WITH THE 3RD POINT SKJDKSJS In fact, the first reason why I explored other genres and came across yaoi was bc of shoujo being annoying af ever shoujo I came across to sighh

I agree. However, I want to add one more point. The girls in manga are annoying af. The vast majority of them are weak, crying, "somebody save me!" females. I'm not saying all are that way, but there is a disgustingly large proportion of them that act that way. I find it so unattractive. It makes it difficult to understand why the male lead likes them. There are a few good, strong female leads, but they sadly seem to be the minority.

Oh my god!! We have the same thought! Lol

We aren't all like that irl either.... (No offense to anyone reading this) i believe it's a cultural difference maybe that's how some parts of the world still see women but i suppose it makes the men look very sweet and not like the jackasses we know them to be in a side note im not gonna lie those shoujo boys make my heart pitter patter but nothing gets me going like some serious BL #noturningback

Please tell me for the love of god what does SKJDKSJS mean im seeing stuff like this everywhere its killing me. Help lol ╥﹏╥

Lmao omg noo it's just some random letters as if I was grumbling (≧∀≦")

╥﹏╥ i feel so dumb now ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ lol thanks now I know not to freak out when I see this now thank you

me personally most of the stuff I read is yaoi but from time to time I still love to read shoujo just recently I found a good shoujo takane and hana it's hilarious but your right about watching hot AF GUYS DOING THE DIRTY WITH EACH OTHER IS FUCKING HOT... I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WATCHING FROM A CLOSET AND EATING POPCORN.... BUT ONLY IN MY FANTASIES WOULD I WATCH FROM AFAR....

I just finished dunking mine in bleach xDDDDD ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I shouldn't have googled it lol

I understand you !! I feel the same.

I do not know why, but ... it's the first time that I didn't want the uke to stay with the seme (shougo), even when kouichi hurt him.

Because mitsuru take the decision to be with kouichi, even knowing that he had feelings for shougo, and then, he go back with shougo and... he only forgives him.

Ahhhhh, i do not know how to say it clearly, but i feel incomplete like you with the end: S

If you really think so then read those (it's the continuation of the manga)
Nemurenai Koibito
Kusuriyubi ga Shitteru
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If you really think so then read those (it's the continuation of the manga)
Nemurenai Koibito
Kusuriyubi ga Shitteru
Mou Kimi o Matanai

Well, he is written as an alpha male, but more than some, he explained why he acted the way he did ( he was trying to make him think of only him) and etc.. So I like him better than I though I would after he started acting cold and aloof.. I hate when the uke acts like a doormat, and in this one he was borderline.. When he walked out of the room after being told to stay I was so happy, because it's unusual... but I found his thought process realistic.. So I did enjoy this one, it wasn't hearts and flowers, but that's ok.. to me:)