Luminescent November 19, 2024 7:06 pm

I just finished payback and it made me realize what exactly my type of dynamic i like and what kinds of story i prefer when it comes to romance.

I want to ask if there are stories on the same level as payback. Have a bottom that isn't defined just by the top (like how the backstory and leading topic is around how much guilt the mc felt, not because he met the top once). Have a story that isn't build around the romance, but have the romance be a side product of the plot. Like the plot can be differentiated between the romance plot and have it become a standalone story that i want to read without the romance. Because i realized that i come to get bored of romantic stories very quickly, especially if the other non romantic plot isn't all that thought through...

I like how badass the bottom is and how the top is clearly in love with the bottom. How they came to realize who the other person really is. How the top is searching for that one night stand. I like the quicks they each have..

I like how the first chapter immediately hooked me, how it all started because of the bottoms wish for revenge. How the bottom functions without being associated with the top. How the bottoms backstory plays a big part in who he is and how it really matters when it comes to both plot and romance.

Does anyone have a bl recommendation? Because i feel like I won't find a story like payback again. I love the story, i love the struggles and i love the moments between the top and the bottom, their chemistry. Thanks in advance

    Luminescent November 19, 2024 7:10 pm

    Ah and maybe have spicy. That shit was also good in payback

    PrettyMenSupremacy November 19, 2024 7:15 pm

    I had to think about this cause bro really just went "can I have recs of *gives the most specific details ever*". No hate tho, you right Payback is one of the BL BLs to ever exist. that being said, try
    "breaking through the clouds 2: swallow the sea" (no spice tho, you already asking too much >:c)

    lebron's #1 pookie bear November 19, 2024 7:17 pm

    This is a shounen ai so sorry if u want smut but Sangyang:the Wanderer is so fucking good. Its pretty slow burn and focuses heavily on the plot more than the romance, and like you said the romance is a byproduct of the plot.

    PrettyMenSupremacy November 19, 2024 7:18 pm
    I had to think about this cause bro really just went "can I have recs of *gives the most specific details ever*". No hate tho, you right Payback is one of the BL BLs to ever exist. that being said, try "breakin... PrettyMenSupremacy

    *best bls (not bl bls)

    Gurl November 19, 2024 7:36 pm

    Yess I love payback too!!

    Read these two in this specific order, tho not a sequel they're kinda connected, also don't be put off by the art at the start, it changes for the better in just a few chapters :

    Song of Reverberation
    https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/song_of_reverberation/

    The Promise
    https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_promise/

    also these are all plot focused bls -
    https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/2758080/

    Luminescent November 19, 2024 7:38 pm
    I had to think about this cause bro really just went "can I have recs of *gives the most specific details ever*". No hate tho, you right Payback is one of the BL BLs to ever exist. that being said, try "breakin... PrettyMenSupremacy

    I get it with specifics. Ive tried alot of other bls and with alot i meant its at least close to tripple digits, but only a handful had really evoked any feelings that go beyond "haha pretty men gay". So i guess im pretty desperate to find another story to punch me in the face like payback.

    As long as story is good enough to capture me no spice is also oke even though that makes me a bit sad as I'm a person who likes spice, but cant always have my cake and eat it too, but then again payback is still on going and thats my cake that i can eat and have.

    Luminescent November 19, 2024 7:41 pm
    This is a shounen ai so sorry if u want smut but Sangyang:the Wanderer is so fucking good. Its pretty slow burn and focuses heavily on the plot more than the romance, and like you said the romance is a byproduc... lebron's #1 pookie bear

    Ill check it out. Not big fan of slowburn nessesarily, but thats mostly because slowburns drag on.. Like first time holding hands after 90 ch and in those 90 ch its all about whether they'll hold hands.

    But i also know some good slow burns and as long as the other non romantic plot is interesting I'm in

    Luminescent November 19, 2024 7:41 pm
    Yess I love payback too!! Read these two in this specific order, tho not a sequel they're kinda connected, also don't be put off by the art at the start, it changes for the better in just a few chapters : Song ... Gurl

    Ahh thanks xd ill go check them out!

    Luminescent November 19, 2024 7:43 pm
    Ah and maybe have spicy. That shit was also good in payback Luminescent

    Welp, i can see how its difficult to search anything too specific, like have good plot and spice T-T. Ig the next best thing is to make my own stories bahahahahahahah

    Gurl November 19, 2024 7:46 pm
    Welp, i can see how its difficult to search anything too specific, like have good plot and spice T-T. Ig the next best thing is to make my own stories bahahahahahahah Luminescent

    ohh lol noo there are stories with smut and also plot focused in the list i recommended also the two i recommended seperately despite the tags and being manhuas as in they don't usually have smut cause of Chinese censorships, these two beat all odds!!!

    Luminescent November 19, 2024 7:51 pm
    ohh lol noo there are stories with smut and also plot focused in the list i recommended also the two i recommended seperately despite the tags and being manhuas as in they don't usually have smut cause of Chine... Gurl

    Dnsj thanks for the recommendations xd ill be busy from now on

    lebron's #1 pookie bear November 20, 2024 4:23 am
    Ill check it out. Not big fan of slowburn nessesarily, but thats mostly because slowburns drag on.. Like first time holding hands after 90 ch and in those 90 ch its all about whether they'll hold hands.But i al... Luminescent

    Nahhh it’s so good trust. It’s def slow burn but the plot that it’s focusing on is incredible so give it a shot pls.

Luminescent September 19, 2024 10:12 am

Okok, anyone has any good webtoon/manga to recommend me? I want some good shit, like good story, good plot, good pacing, good characters, good dialogue, interesting way to draw your panels, put your boxes, etc. I'm trying to learn about how to write stories, especially webtoons and im just interested as to whats considered good and read it myself. Im also open for any discussion as to why you think its good or stand out!

    lumibloom September 19, 2024 10:18 am

    Phase, one of my fav webtoons. I think the art style is amazing and the story is unique and interesting.

    PrettyMenSupremacy September 19, 2024 11:20 am

    Little mushroom
    Heaven official’s blessing
    Breaking through the clouds 2: swallow the sea
    Spring is near

    Luminescent September 20, 2024 1:39 am
    Phase, one of my fav webtoons. I think the art style is amazing and the story is unique and interesting. lumibloom

    Ill check it out xd

    Luminescent September 20, 2024 1:39 am
    Little mushroom Heaven official’s blessingBreaking through the clouds 2: swallow the sea Spring is near PrettyMenSupremacy

    Ive read heaven officials blessing, even have the og novels next to my bed haha, but ill definitely check the other two out

Luminescent December 5, 2023 7:53 pm

So i have a webtoon i read here once, but i forgor its name and can't find it on my list.

It's a story about humans and humans who can turn into animals. There are racism? Specism? And the mc defended the humans who can turn into animals, bc his bro was a human who can turn into an animal and he loves jis family. And he got into a police force with humans who can turn into animals. Mc is bubbly and cute and wholesome while his future bf angry panther boi is depressed and traumatized by his past dead bf.

I remember i enjoyed it but i dont know why i stopped reading it. I need to know. Why i stopped. Pls help, thank you. Prize is a cookie

    Frenchfries December 5, 2023 7:58 pm

    Is it Hell & High water??

    Luminescent December 5, 2023 8:11 pm
    Is it Hell & High water?? Frenchfries

    OENENWJ YES THANK YOU- but i now see why i stopped, there are no further chapters but thank you. Here have the cookie

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