Kiki March 2, 2024 11:12 pm

I can't believe we went through that FOREVER flashback arc which ended in death only to return to a present that brings the same characters and readers back to (what feels like) the exact same point. It's a repetition of all the same beats. I get the story logic of it but I find the repetition tedious and bereft of all tension. Alive, dead, whatever, all I want at this point is a solid development in which the characters get to do and be something else damn.

    Meruemshu March 2, 2024 11:26 pm

    I feel like this wouldn't have been so frustrating iif the chapter hadn't ended here

    Kiki March 2, 2024 11:38 pm
    I feel like this wouldn't have been so frustrating iif the chapter hadn't ended here Meruemshu

    That's true. That long flashback arc was essentially an extended cliff hanger and it ends only to drop us into another one *immediately* like what. Get me out of here.
    (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ (At least other folx are into it.)

    Meruemshu March 2, 2024 11:43 pm
    That's true. That long flashback arc was essentially an extended cliff hanger and it ends only to drop us into another one *immediately* like what. Get me out of here. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ (At least other folx... Kiki

    Frfr

Kiki February 29, 2024 10:05 pm

So, I'll share a link: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7292083/. For a quote:

"Female ejaculation or squirting is a well‐known phenomenon among urologists, but there are no scientific articles on mSQ, despite this term being widely used in mass media. In this case study, we describe the first recording of mSQ using color Doppler ultrasonography. We show that mSQ is a phenomenon in which urine in the bladder gushes out from the external urethral orifice due to strong contraction of prostate and pelvic striated muscles, if penile stimulation is continued after ejaculation. These results provide the first scientific basis for a publicly known phenomenon." msQ= male squirting

*Anyway* back to the story:

We are truly at the bottom of the barrel when someone wearing a condom and being a considerate human being is "sexy" why am I still here with this story. Sigh. :(

Kiki February 12, 2024 10:14 pm

Where is the badass omega that opened this title? All he does now is bow to whatever this asshole wants. Why are creators' imaginations so limited when it comes to writing for omega characters. Those slaps aren't impressive if it's just going to be followed by a whimper and a "I have to do what he wants to save my alpha cry cry." Come up with a plan, ffs.

    Ezer February 12, 2024 10:24 pm

    Wait & see...

    MyLovelyHusbandIchigo2021 February 14, 2024 1:57 am

    Still there but with child, ill, and under extreme stress that could cause a miscarriage is he isn’t careful… no one is strong one hundred percent of the time and expecting that to be the case shows you are the one lacking creativity sweetheart. This take is horrid but I understand where you’re coming from so I’m not even mad. A lot of omegaverse Will whittle down their previously incredibly powerful omegas just to make the alpha look better. This isn’t one of those though. He is strong for standing up to him in this situation. He is strong for not caving despite the manipulation. Incredibly strong for trying to protect the love of his life despite being heavily pregnant. A lot of omegaverse would use this chance to make it so HE was kidnapped. The plot is plotting, don’t hate.

    Grimm February 14, 2024 2:02 am
    Still there but with child, ill, and under extreme stress that could cause a miscarriage is he isn’t careful… no one is strong one hundred percent of the time and expecting that to be the case shows you are... MyLovelyHusbandIchigo2021

    If I could like a reply I 100% would.

    Sugarhoneyicedtea February 14, 2024 2:06 am

    He is still there, however as the one above said, he's pregnant and ill, and under intense stress. He's also experiencing what's called a trauma response, which is basically the way the body and mind react to triggers of trauma. He was so traumatised by his alpha forcing him to miscarry previously that he's basically in a panic any time that piece of trash threatens or comes near his child. He's still a bad ass bitch, he just needs some serious therapy or that piece of shit to vanish if you know what I mean.

    Flying_Bunny February 14, 2024 4:04 am
    Still there but with child, ill, and under extreme stress that could cause a miscarriage is he isn’t careful… no one is strong one hundred percent of the time and expecting that to be the case shows you are... MyLovelyHusbandIchigo2021

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    bleuuu:-! February 14, 2024 7:59 am

    Ffs understand and analyze the story and the characters first b4 u say something stpd

    Kiki February 14, 2024 8:47 am
    Still there but with child, ill, and under extreme stress that could cause a miscarriage is he isn’t careful… no one is strong one hundred percent of the time and expecting that to be the case shows you are... MyLovelyHusbandIchigo2021

Kiki February 6, 2024 5:25 am

Okay but why does the child have to be present for Hot Grandpa’s Bigoted Dinner Hour? He doesn’t have a nice maid they could have left him with?

    notTexas February 6, 2024 5:47 am

    I was thinking the same... kid doesn't need to hear the disrespectful speech. ( ̄∇ ̄")

    kinda_judgemental February 6, 2024 10:09 am
    I was thinking the same... kid doesn't need to hear the disrespectful speech. ( ̄∇ ̄") notTexas

    also he's probably gonna hear there that seme is also his father and the uke hasn't told him that yet...

Kiki February 2, 2024 8:11 am

The boss was very obviously out of line on every point like what do some of y’all mean. Doesn’t turn up when he said he would, doesn’t explain why or apologize, then verbally harasses him about a potential job decision that is professionally and personally none of his business unless and until his subordinate chooses to make it so. Our boy overthinks, sure, but the boss is an inconsistent jerkwad and always has been. I’d have told him to do a lot more than “shut up”.

Kiki January 9, 2024 1:48 am

He is not the worst red flag I've read but somehow he comes off as so sinister. Ugh.

Kiki January 6, 2024 6:52 pm

I leave the comments that I do for stories where characters say explicity, in officially translated English: "No." "I don't like this." "Wait." "Stop" With clearly drawn expressions of anxiety, of distress, of coerced physical response. And readers who swear on their ancestors graves and their favourite soda that "This is just fiction" and "Everybody knows what they're reading" will reveal the exact opposite. So here we go. This is long.

In sexual relationships, consent is present when it is *clearly* communicated: whether that's vocally, in sign language, however the parties involve best communicate. When anyone communicates "No" and the partner does not stop, does not check in with their partner but continues to have sex, the experience has become *nonconsensual*. It's not dubious. Where is the doubt in "No"? You are not a psychic. You are not a god. You do not have access to the partner's inner thoughts. It does not matter if their genitals have turned into the largest waterfall or the biggest mountain in your country. No means no, *unless* the partners involved have agreed to a sexual relationship in which they role play dubcon/rape scenarios and have a safe word that either will use if they want to stop.

Even *if* a partner involve changes their mind after they rejected another's sexual advances before *at best* the situation is a coerced sexual encounter and still a violation. Why? Because the person tried to assert their agency, their will, and was ignored. They were rendered powerless and any decisions made in a situation where you feel you cannot control what happens to you because the other will not listen is *compromised*. It is violence.

We know there are dubcon stories out there but *key aspects* of evaluating those stories is a lack of a "No" or similar rejection of the advance AND the reader having access to that character's inner thoughts. In thise case we would know know exactly what Woo Won is feeling, his uncertainty, hesitation and so on. None of that is present in chapters 59 or 60. What we get is Seo-An's thoughts which automatically put the reader in *his* position and makes us more sympathetic towards him rather than Woo Won. Some comments here play into another big myth: that partners in romantic relationships can't rape each other or there's some kind of higher threshold they have to meet. If they are already in a relationship and love each other if someone says "No" he doesn't really mean it, they must mean something else it, it must be maybe, not now or 5 minutes later, or let me shower first. In chapter X Woo Won was into it so he has to want it now no matter what.

All of that? It's rape logic. It's rape culture.

Look. It's okay to read fucked up stories. It does not make you a bad a person. But it is critical that we understand what we're reading. If you refuse to recognise it in a webtoon on a screen you're reading in private how the hell are you going to do so IRL?

BL is filled with stories where characters say, "No" "It hurts" "I don't want to" "Stop" and then the couple falls into a happily ever after with no consequences. Or the characters, say "No" and then later "Oh, I didn't mean it, tee hee" without the writers showing the couple having a discussion about what they're into sexually, how they get off on dubcon, and so these are the terms. These are unrealistic normalizations of dysfunctional abusive relationships, for the most part. Some writers are good at writing these taboo situations because they understand the dynamics and what gets readers gagging. But most of the time, imo, indulge in a careless romanticization of rape and an erasure of trauma in a world where sexual violence is not taken seriously, especially when partners are in a queer relationship.

Please search for resources on this issue. There is nothing wrong with being "rape-sensitive" ffs. Everyone should be!

    Natthebrat January 6, 2024 7:03 pm

    Did you have the same feeling when Woo was eating seo’s ass and seo said no? Cause I didn’t see these keyboard warriors then.

    Kiki January 6, 2024 7:30 pm
    Did you have the same feeling when Woo was eating seo’s ass and seo said no? Cause I didn’t see these keyboard warriors then. Natthebrat

    Oh I'm very sorry. I forgot to report to random dumb fucks in the comment section to record all of my thoughts on every chapter of this webtoon. I'll clock in next time, brat.

    Natthebrat January 6, 2024 7:43 pm
    Oh I'm very sorry. I forgot to report to random dumb fucks in the comment section to record all of my thoughts on every chapter of this webtoon. I'll clock in next time, brat. Kiki

    Weird way to say you didn’t care then but okay. Way to stay consistent.

Kiki January 2, 2024 8:30 pm

I know this is supposed to be cute (?) or whatever but man, that kid might have really needed a friend. He could have been queer without community. I dislike this side to Dojae and I dislike how people incorrectly use neurodivergency to excuse it. Sigh.

    Kamiyadori January 6, 2024 5:33 am

    Same! That kid seemed like he just needed a friend. Dojae is really getting to be too much. He's secluding our boy from most of his friend group too. Like, not letting him go home to take care of his sick friend? That was messed up.

Kiki December 30, 2023 5:44 am

But also it's always funny when folx try to control what happens on the discussion board. It annoys me when a comment section of a favourite title is filled with negative comments or (what I think are dumb) misinterpretations but I just stop reading the comments for a while. I can only control myself, idk. Too crazy? Like, the negative reaction is inevitable if the author keeps switching up the vibe in the side stories with Big Potato. I appreciate the translator's note tho, thanks GnY.

Kiki December 17, 2023 11:58 am

Sir Calion: Pick me, choose me, love me.

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