Fafa's Topics (192)

Up here Lavender, in case you got lost :)

So what I’m getting from all this is that you hate the idea of J being a trans woman because it would ruin “the hot yaoiz.” Got it.
Also you acknowledged that interpreting J as trans is a valid interpretation but why does it bother you so much? Others think she’s a trans woman and you don’t, why does that piss you off so much? No one is saying you having to think she’s trans but you seem to think people are.
I’m not going to argue with you anymore because clearly you’re not going to listen to me.

I correct myself. Exactly one person down below is saying you have to think she’s trans. Still that’s only one person and you are in no way obligated to agree with them. The way you reacted was really immature though.

I am giving my interpretation of a character that acknowledges himself as a gay male and saying that it is still ok to call him as such. The reason why I responded against those who, yes can interpret J as what they want to but understand that other may not feel the same, is that what was being said by yourself and a few others undermines the homosexuality of this story. Not because I see this for "the hot yaoiz" as you so eloquently put it, but because I see it as a one in a million story that shows true character development and struggles of gay men. Many homosexual males grow up doing the same things J does (make up, idolizing female celebs, referring to themself as "she", dressing up as girls) and are not labeling themselves as transgender women, or transisioning into actual women, just because they like the things girls like. I am onlu saying that it is ok to call him a he, he does not mind it, he knows what he is and accepts it presently.

But is that apart of the gau side or gender experimentation? Not all gay guys like feminine things or ever want to be seen as a girl

Further more...J's femininity....is seen as a curse. Growing up in 1960s. Many trans women up until recently still called themselves men because that's how society sees it over all.

At the end, she's not just in the dress, but singing the song she liked as a kid, before the world, her father, and her mother all went to shit and death, mental illness.

Her feminity is also seen as a curse. She fights with it. She is most happy when she is dressed like a woman.

Her identity she feels is compounded by the fact she finds it toxic. She loves/hates herself at the same time.

Its not just a regular gay story.

J literally says multiple times that she is a women, she also says that shes always thought of herself as women until she realized her and her mother had different body parts. She also literally wants to become marilyn monroe (who is a woman) this is so obvious stop denying it

..wait...people still finding this comment? My views have somewhat changed since I wrote this but I still pretty much stand by it. Believe what you want and take from this story whatever you'd like. It's still bl

If it was a bl it would be tagged as either shounen ai or yaoi

yeah feel like i've been reborned again

Thats a bit unfair as theres drama in every fandom and there are only a handful who like to start trouble. This is only a very tiny corner of fandom, dont let it get to you.

People don't seem to get that logic does not work on on some people. Some just have a firm resistance to evidence. Probably also a firm resistance to admitting fault.

What I'm saying is, why even bother wasting time arguing with people like that. Whether they're trolling on purpose or are actually genuine, arguing with them is just bound to lead to nothing but petty fights.

Of course, making fun of them does that as well.

Seriously though, hopefully people will get tired of arguing if whether Asami loves Fei or not and whatnot asap. Not that it will eliminate all drama from the fandom but it seems to be the center of it for about a year now.

places without moderators are usually a mess

That won't happen LOL - some people reaallly enjoy making others angry and/or defensive. At the risk of making a really bad and inflammatory political remark, AsamixFei shippers are the NRA

That's the main problem in this page. Some posters like to provoke and if they get all the attention they want, they continue because this amuses them. I don't even believe that the anonymous who usually posts using sibylline language creates threads of axf just to make a random comment, but to laugh their ass off with all the insults and attacks they get.

Yes, I am pretty sure that is the case, on the other hand, the anon might be a climate change denying believer that the earth is flat and that vaccines cause autism ... so no matter what arguments you present, they cannot be swayed from their delusions. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

i don't understand what you are talking about. It isn't important if that person really ships axf, axa, axseamonster, or whatever else, but the people who fall into all these tricks and start posting insults. Besides the case of the infamous S that everyone knows who uses to insult directly the characters, this other anon only comments like "you don't understand the manga, bla bla", and people fall like pigeons without even having the excuse of the starting insults (like with S). ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Unfortunately I think the troll (s) can be anyone here, even those who always post, there are sick people to the point of representing two faces. So you can not believe someone here since there is no way to prove anything.

So true.

I think the Undertaker is his Grandfather which means Ciel is part Grim Reaper

That would be sick, and also an interesting route since it would also mean Sebastian probably wouldn't be able to take Ciels soul. I wonder if Sebastian would be able to sense it though?

omg i was thinking the same!!!