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no no, she's showing them a potential talents

She wants them to be muses for artists

So then the public views on demons shifts to a more favorable one

nope, her "Emi" wouldn't want that :-))

that's what I'm wondering too..!

I wonder if they hope that Shirley's death will cause another wolf lord rebellion on a grander scale so the prince would 100% be the next heir (whether the prince wants it or not). I'm also wondering if the princess is another reincarnated family member..

Some theories:
2.1. Unfortunately, Shirley is detained over valid (if false) pretenses. She's currently being investigated for the king's murder. My assumption is that Prince Marsh's faction want to expose the princess as the murderer AFTER she's taken an innocent life, therefore cementing her as a tyrant who needs to be removed from the throne.
2.1.1. There's also no way Caid would rebel knowing that Shirley is still alive and the princess could just kill her in retaliation. That might also be part of the reason Shirley "needs to" die, so that Caid has nothing holding him back and he can blindly side with the revolution. It's the same logic they employed when thinking that Ezador "had to" die for Caid to return to Reius (although he only did so because of Shirley's guilt, not his own).
2.2. Most likely, yes. I also think part of it has to do with Prince Marsh's ability as a leader, although this is purely conjecture. While the king were alive he would still keep the crown, so murdering the princess would put the prince in a position of questionable authority but still give time to earn his right on the throne until the king's natural passing. With the king dead, however, there's a chance that killing the princess just leads to a power vacuum that the other nobility (non-prince faction) will struggle over. Call the princess a tyrant and put the prince (unwillingly?) at the helm of the whole revolution, however....it's the same situation that Caid himself was in, and he has unequivocal control over Reius.
2.3. Noble politics is like 5d chess with multiversal time travel, so I really don't know here. My best guess would be that, at the end of the day, the prince's faction doesn't actually care about the prince or anybody around him, they only care about results, and this might be the plan with the 'best' results (also they already killed Ezador to get Caid to go back to Reius, so there's a non-zero chance Caid just tells them to go to hell if he finds out).
2.4. Because everybody else already drank the princess kool-aid. The ones who wanted to remove her were already trying, but the princess herself says over and over that she's so loved that she deserves and more or less gets everything she wants (Caid notwithstanding), which is gross but also something a very successful cult leader can say.
2.5. At this point, the prince's faction is probably just the anti-princess faction. It definitely sounds like they don't give a shit about his feelings and only want him in the throne because he's the lesser of two evils. Once he's in the throne, I'm sure any of his supporters would gladly take the crown from him given the chance.

OMG, thanks so much!!
This really helped 'cause my head kinda spun a bit w/this chapter

Totally agreed. Would not expect this from our ml.

His holy beta-ness....

I suppose it's the same thing w my gay guy friend not understanding a single thing about female anatomy or has interest in it's function since he is all about the male body.

are you dumb?

You're being rude. And not giving any particular input to the comment or a good rebuff. Please reconsider your vocab and how you address people. If you have nothing positive to say, please refrain from saying anything at all. Contribute to the convo or not. But don't call people names

I think this would be the equivalent to someone dropping some tampons or a sheet of their birth control pills. You know what they're for, but you'd have no idea if this person was on their period or ovulating lol. You can't sense it as a 'beta'.

True. But given that perhaps he's never seen anyone in heat or rut his entire life either this society has very good grip on their pheromones regulation and heat and rut cycle suppressance then I guess he wouldn't have had first hand experience seeing an omega or an alpha in heat, lack of ability to sense pheromones notwithstanding. I'm assuming he hasn't even seen a close -one/friend/family member going into heat? A neighbor, some random dude, idk. Was he THAT sheltered?!? I mean symptoms other than the glaringly obvious pheromone detection for alphas and omegas. If sex Ed was somehow lacking and didn't give any video demo or textbook examples....I mean, the cluelness is a bit extreme.

Granted, personally he himself has been, as someone else has said, into his beta-ness so much never involved himself in anything else.

I think this goes on the premise that betas make up the vast majority of society. But I agree, I don't think it's to do with being sheltered per se - but the obvious lack of appropriate sex education is obvious. I think alot of east asian countries have pretty subpar sex/health education - so with that in mind, the context of this story makes sense.

I work in both mental health and education, I'm telling you these things need to be explicitly taught, otherwise there are gaps in knowledge that have nothing to do with being sheltered haha.

Yeah... Well, my family is Asian and the ONLY sex talk ever had is: 1. No premarital sex or you die a virgin. Yup. And there is no talk of STDs or anything and if you should get pregnant out of wedlock you bring shame to the family. No education on contraceptives, nothing. That's the most dangerous, cuz trying to regulate me by telling me rape stories (yup) gotta thank my mom for being traumatized by sex and feeling guilty about sex ... And being told that women don't have sexual feelings and that women are taught how to have sex by their husbands. Yup yup. Peachy is my life, then being called indirectly a whore cuz then I tried to break the no premarital sex and traumatized for about 5 years before I could let go of the fact that it's her own belief system and no matter how long we've lived in the U.S. that's just how "she" believes I should live. Also, no cohabitation, yup. My sis broke the rules on THAT one. The rape stories traumatized me for at least 10 years. She started out by giving me newspaper clippings since when I was about 12/13/14...

That's horrible I'm so sorry. I can see how that would be traumatising. I think it also shows how traumatised your mum and her peers were, as sex was this awful scary thing that gets done too you, with no body autonomy - because that's what you do when you're married.

I think it's great you'd managed to differentiate those beliefs from your own. I like to reframe to 'I am sorry" to "am I safe?". Am I engaging in safe sexual behaviours? Are they enjoyable? Do I trust this person/s?.

I think its important we detach shame from normal human behaviour (i.e., sex). When we learn what safe behaviour is, we're in a much more empowered position with issues like consent, rape or unwanted pregnancy. If the characters within this story learned anything, they'd absolutely not be in this position.

Yes, not being seen as the one who can take control of my OWN SEX LIFE IS VERY SCARY. It's DISEMPOWERING.

And i also love how various characters try to terms with her pioneering (for those times) strategies and ideals, coz in most manhwas it's always "everyone except bestie and/or ml shun this woman for tryna think" ykwim? Like some characters superficially accept these ideas (like Casey Jr), some try to come to a compromise with the beliefs they hold and her ideas (the queen mother) and some people agree with her (that countess who was talking about women reading). It's very refreshing that these aren't just generic responses yanno?

Yes!!!!
These makes those characters much more ogranic and less toxic

It's refreshing

Exactly. It is very refreshing