I'm good with the friends' side story, like, I hope they clear it up. I don't like how they started so I wanna know how author-nim will continue... but I'm looking forward to boss' one more. Also, if they ever decide to create more main couple side story, I hope we get to see more growth on Inseo because he's basically a baby being cared for by Hyuk haha
Lol Garam is now infected by the bdmp virus, let's see if his horny self can win over his mind. I'm excited for the next seggs! We all know how smitten Jaehyuk is for Garam now right? He doesn't want anyone other than him now yiiiieeeeeee ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ but the glasses guy is a clown and a disgrace to mankind. Garam, be careful baby boy
This is actually a really good representation of how people with deep anxiety looks like in a relationship. I relate to Wonjun in a spiritual level because I'm like him, and I understand how he feels maybe that's why I'm a bit biased. Bro, our kind of people are really selfish and doesn't know how to talk in the most important situations, we want someone but we're afraid to commit, yet we hate ourself to the point that we even question if we deserve to even be happy. Yeah, one of your toxic people to meet in a lifetime. But we love deeply, we're loyal, and we struggle to forget someone we loved for a looong time. It's a miracle if we came across someone like Kyunghoo who never gives up or gets tired. I'm so happy when he decided to tell KH why he ghosted him and why he keeps on denying KH a relationship. I just hope he learns to talk even with his bro, like, we all know how much more difficult it is to talk to your family than other people. Don't hate them, this is just so real that's why it hurts and frustrates us readers so much (/TДT)/
Okay. I know how the first few sex scenes looked forced but it was consensual. The seme was rough and an ass but he asked first, uke agreed, and seme paid for that sex in cold cash. And he's still paying Dan that damned cash. Cash that Dan badly needed. Now don't get me started with the money for sex talk, because that really happens irl and we can't do anything about it. Basically, Dan accepted the job and Jaekyung is just taking what he paid for. I loved that the author actually threw it out there that Dan is in dire need of the money and he's willing to do anything for it and Jaekyung was the answer EVEN IF Dan doesn't like it. Took a while to see Dan getting hard while having sex because he obviously only did it for the money. And now we're seeing the development for both Dan (now he's actually enjoying the sex) and Jaekyung (he's kissing now and tries a little bit of foreplay AND actually paid the debt in full and the grandma's hospital bills) even though their feelings are still vague. Fvck. I wouldn't have made it to ch. 31 if the seme was THAT bad. He wasn't. At least as far as I've read. Idk about what's gonna happen next so I'll just enjoy how cute Heesung is here in case he's gonna be a bad character later lol.
What about the public shower scene? Dan said 'i know i agreed but this is too much' and then hit Jaekyung trying to get away. That scene didnt feel consensual at all, what was Dan supposed to do run away? What would he say those the other members who started coming in? How could he make sure Jaekyung didn't beat his ass for bailing? He'd already hit him once and there was no way Jaekyung would care if he wanted to stop right now. He didn't give a flying fuck about doing it in public and he took Dan's genuine fear as a joke of some sorts. Talking bout 'are you gonna stop resisting now?' he knows Dan doesn't want it but is dismissing all his clear feelings. Weaponized ignorance
Hi there! From your subject line I thought you were going to rip a hole into this series, but you didn’t. You make the same argument I do it’s A JOB Dan is doing. Keep reading, you’ve done the time. I’m sure we’re going to be hitting a bumpy road in the coming chapters, it be nice if I was wrong, but I doubt it.
Well, I did say that the seme is an ass, but as I have said, all the sex after Dan asked for that additional $10k on top of his $4k offer for the job should be expected, whether he likes it or not. Please don't forget that Dan was the one who asked for that huge amount of money for a monthly wage knowing full well what will happen. I don't dismiss the fact that seme isn't taking uke's fears into consideration but what can he do? He's basically being paid to become his sex toy. This manhwa is even lighter compared to others that actually humiliates the uke in public or even hurt the uke. Jaekyung is definitely calmer than them tbh.
Dan is prostituting himself out of desperate need for money, just because Dan asked for more does not give leeway for Jaekyung to penetrate him without his consent. Dan did know what he was getting into but as i said before he literally thought 'i know i knew what i was getting into but this is too much' before punching Jaekyung to get him off him. It wasnt consenual even though Dan is being paid, he still has the human right to give consent. Whatever Jaekyung said what 'we have sex whenever i want whereever i want' is sexual exploitation and its not consensual unless every single time Jaekyhng initiates, Dan gives consent. If Dan doesnt want to Jaekyung forcing him like he did in the shower is rape DESPITE him saying he agreed, he again thought 'this is to much'. Its clear theres a huge power imbalance between them in general and sexual violence should not be denied just because of an invalid agreement. In terms of what consent is, the shower seen doesnt make the cut. Also, its so unrealistic bro, everyone will hear that ass clapping echo in the shower . Sorry i got unserious because i just thought it was so illogical how nobody seemingly found out what was going on, ik its fiction but its stupid.
Yeah, this is fiction, especially it's yaoi so of course we have to leave our logic out the window every now and then. Usually, I would agree with your arguments above but this manhwa started with this tone where the uke is prostituting himself because of money to a seme who is a ruffian and an ass so I already conditioned my mind to not like the characters too much (despite the really good art). I don't see any sense in giving consent much thought in this manhwa though because (1) Dan basically sold himself to Jae (2) Jae told him what will happen during this sexual transaction and Dan still went through with it and (3) Jae actually gives Dan the right to say no if it really matters (e.g. the first time they had sex where he was given the choice to leave and the time the hospital called him). I don't think that particular scene in the shower makes such a huge impact because they basically have sex more often than not and having sex anytime anywhere is part of the contract lol but I'm hoping the author gives time for Jae to know more about Dan in the future because he literally doesn't know anything about him and that's okay because they're basically together for sex business and that's how sex business works. But I want him to know that he's actually Dan's first in everything and that he has a past trauma with molestation. Just, character development in general for the both of them I guess.
Ch. 1-7 5/5 I love confident and power bottoms! The seme is bi but he's dating girls because of his parents' pressure, I bet he really is into guys, or more specifically, into Ichigo teehee ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Ch. 8 4/5 One shot. An okay couple.
Ch. 9 3/5 The most hated chapter in this compilation lol. I get why most people didn't like this one shot, but at least the seme actually voices out his frustrations towards the uke and he's teaching him! There are people like that irl tho so I'm guessing this will either become a toxic relationship in the long run or they will just break up (I prefer this because seme deserves someone much better).
Ch. 10 10/10 OMG I love the last chapter sooo much!!! Can't they have their own series? (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Don't get me wrong, the plot is definitely good, the art is awesome, and the storytelling was on point, but is this supposed to be an open ending? Like, nothing was resolved. No one payed for whatever they did. They actually killed someone (technically, because he was raped and a video even circulated the school so he killed himself) and nothing happened? The love lines were cut short too (both main couple and the friends). I would rate this 10/10 if there are more chapters showing us how those shitheads paid for their crimes but if this is it then it's like an incomplete series. It feels like not being able to cum after a long and hard sexual intercourse. I'm not gonna rate this now, will wait it out or maybe leave this unrated at all.
People are romanticising the main couple's relationship right now when they're nothing more than an employer and an employee lmao. That's why you guys hate the seme so much, because you want him to treat the uke as a love interest when in fact, he's not, at least for now #-.-)
Dan IS indeed his sex toy. He's being paid a huge chunk of money every month to take care of seme's sexual needs. Imagine paying for something that expensive and someone else wants to use them? Yeah. I'm objectifying the uke in this particular manhwa because the author set that fact since the start. Dan is Jaekyung's possession right now because he's literally paying him and our Dan here knows that. Now, if you guys look at it in a business viewpoint, what Heesung wants to do with Dan is basically fishing an employee from an employer, and you guys don't get why JK is becoming more of an ass?? Yeah. He IS an ass and I'm not saying his actions are to to be forgotten. However, JK's issues are valid in that sense where he officially asked Dan for this in return of the huge money he needs and Dan AGREED to it at the very beginning so Dan definitely doesn't have the right to act otherwise.
Now, if the author wants to make some progress and starts feeding "feelings" into this business relationship, then that's where we have the right to talk shit about the seme if he doesn't change his ways.
Also, if Dan wants to escape from JK and HS is willing to take Dan away from JK, then he should just go. Especially if HS will pay JK what Dan owes JK. Kinda not possible from how the things look right now but just a maybe lol
AND I agree that this is poorly written, and that we're getting nowhere in the plot, so I'm technically reading this just for the art. Who knows? Maybe we'll get to see something more interesting in the future (if there's a future for this manhwa at all ( ̄∇ ̄")
This is the definition of fake-smart take.
It's a toxic BL, with a classic rich toxic seme + poor weak uke trope, they will end up together and in love, no matter how the story started. Whether you like it or not. Whether you trash the seme or not.
And of course it's going somewhere, it's a very common type of plot so how many brain cells are you lacking to not see where it's going?
This is just a very common jealousy arc, in a very commonly toxic story with a toxic main couple. Jaekyung will try to show ownership, then male rival will lose, Jaekyung will realize his feelings, and then they're gonna be together after some more extra eps.
It's so glaring obvious because it's so common, and at this point anyone who reads a lot of BL ESPECIALLY toxic ones knows. We're just reading because we love it. We're reading different shades of the same thing because we love the core. We love the trope.
And there are always braidead dumbasses who can't stand toxicity but will still read toxic BL tropes and complain because it gives them a higher sense of morality or whatever. They're annoying but always there.
So what is this bullshit take trying to intellectualize this basic trope? Be fucking for real.
Idk why but I'm just laughing my ass off right now like I've been waiting for this attack right after I posted my comment ┗( T﹏T )┛ Was I supposed to be offended by you shaming me in your reply?
Of course I know that this is a common trope in bl and that the main couple will end up together whether people like it or not, and that's exactly why I'm seeing this as pure comedy lmao.
I'm not trying to intellectualise anything here, I'm sharing my viewpoint as a reader just how others are sharing theirs. I mean, I like to think beyond what's common, and I also love seeing things in a different perspective, and that's how I enjoy my time reading cliché tropes like this. Because it IS cliché. So how do you enjoy cliché plots where you already know what's gonna happen? Think differently. See what's beyond. Because if I already know what's gonna happen in the end and don't try to think while I'm reading, I won't be able to enjoy this. But welp, if what I thought was not what the author intended, so be it. I still enjoyed it trying to think differently. It's just part of the fun of being a reader tbh (▰˘◡˘▰)
So sorry if my opinion doesn't coincide with yours, but each to their own (●'◡'●)ノ
I don't care whether you're offended or not. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of your take, how you feel about it is a you problem.
I don't even disagree on your actual point I just think you do it in a very fake smart way.
As for "different Perspective" I analyze when it's relevant. For example, analyzing killing stalking is intellectually relevant because the author has used concepts that can completely change the "role" of the characters. (Bad guy good guy)
But you on the other hand are full of shit, here's a couple examples:
EXAMPLE 1:
Yes, Jaekyung is paying and they have a contract, so he is entitled to the contract's content.
But that whole stupid BS about how he is possessive because he pays for it is absolutely fake smart stupidity. This is just the very cliché part of toxic BLs wear ML doesn't want MC to hang around other men because he's starting to catch feelings that he hasn't identified yet.
And this didn't start with the rival's appearance, it started when Dan was just simply interacting with the other gym members. Jaekyung was mad and side eyeing for no reason EVEN when he didn't need him.
And as someone who claims to know how cliché it is you should have spotted that and understood it, but instead you attached it to the contract because you are fake smart.
EXAMPLE 2:
You say we're getting no where in the plot, even though we literally know in advance how it's gonna end up EXACTLY because it's cliché.
A plot is literally defined by having an initial situation, a breaking point, peripeties, a climax and a final situation. That's 8th grade literature classes for you. Therefore anyone with half a brain who's been to school can tell that the plot's going somewhere.
And I got many other ones I could drag you in the mud for ages.
So it's not that we disagree my guy, you're just full of shit and I'm pointing it out.
Well sorry that my take is just "full of shit" to your intelligence your majesty. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ I couldn't care less about whether you can drag me into the mud for something that is not as relevant as my OWN opinion in my OWN comment.
I don't know if you really just like having an argument over a cliché bl or if attacking someone for having fun in their own way is how you have fun, but feel free to dislike and talk trash me, I'll welcome you with open arms ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Discussing your examples of why you're calling my opinion 'shit' will get me nowhere so I will just catch them all to satisfy you.
Is there anything else you want to say about how shitty my opinion is? I enjoy reading people's comments and opinions even if they're totally different from mine so don't worry. Vent as much as you like (=・ω・=)
No that's it, you're just fake smart and full of shit I've said all I had to say,
Goodbye
Yeah, I'm okay being called fake smart. Thanks for your replies! Have a nice day, bye! ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~