It was clearly rape but from reading the raws i think maybe yall should wait a little bit before jumping the gun and dropping the manwha. Also pls acknowledge that even tho this was rape be careful by trying to say everything is rape when a lot of people have CNC kink.
Where are the raws please? Link.. ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
You know the kink explanation only works if there was consent long before.
"Hey I have a rape kink, take me whenever you want or when the moods right"
"Okay, cool"
It shouldn't be plot armor because that's not how this kink works in the real world. Also if it's explained later that's kinda shitty of the author to do that
This is very clearly rape im just annoyed with seeing children saying everything is rape in the comment sections of multiples mangas. If youve had sex before you can understand the difference between a “no i really dont want to” and “no it feels too good i cant handle this amount of pleasure but dont stop”
I see way more people indifferent to rape or actually enjoying it in stories than people not knowing what rape is. I would be more upset over the first thing.
You can be upset about both. People calling everything rape is just as problematic. It lessens the seriousness of rape. Im also annoyed by peoples lack of context comprehension when it comes to sex scenes. I agree that a lot of manga has rape involved but believe it or not you dont have to see rape in everything.
Honestly Martin over fucking reacted- not all of them making it near impossible for Andy to work there. Andy has shown multiple times that he doesnt understand certain shit and is socially awkward. Im glad he was able to open up about his past bcus hes happy now but you just trauma dump on andy and expect what? When he barely knows ANY of you personally. I think the way he handled it was fine but martin overreacted and if i was andy id quit lmao.
Im dead laughing at all these team cain bcus hes a dog what the heck and a liar at that you guys are so blinded by all his faults bcus yahwi is so garbage
And Yahwi is better because?... As long as I can remember he manipulated, lied, and treated oonin like shit so far so... Yahwi is better because???
Okay but yahwis flaws are being a rapist? So as far as I know Cain is a way better option
Lmao are you blind or stupid? Bcus i definitely said they were both garbage
Oh so bcus yahwi is a rapist jooin should be with a sketchy liar who was probably a dog at one point?!?! Hes sketchy as hell and is using jooins vulnerability to get closer to jooin instead of telling the truth. Jooin is clearly in love with yawhi but both are garbage. Team jooin bcus only he knows what he wants but honestly i just want yahwi and cain to come clean and jooin to say forget them both.
So i bought some of the chapters off lezhin tell me why the sex is censored im so sad
what chapter does it begin at?
Ch 10
Not yall complaining about the storyline because its not a fluffy story
right like lets see you write a story then you can judge like get over yourself
Right and he has every right to hate his sister tbh. He may be messed up but his sister is no better their literally both garbage its not a fluffy story lol
exactlyyyyyy like your sister literally married your crush and she doesnt even like him like who wouldnt be mad at that shit so he did the right thing to get that dick dc
Lmao right and does everyone forget how mean and the shit she said in the very first episode?!?!
my point exactly
Lmao i love seeing differing opinions but yall are alll shitting on this like tags are there if you dont like the story theres plenty on here to read what the hell is point of calling the author names and saying their writing is bad? its okay to not like a story but yall make it this far and are still bitching but have yet to drop it?
Exactly
Why are all of you lost? He dropped the tomatoes, ran to threw up, went to the hospital found out hes pregnant ran away to korea bcus he didnt know how to tell cha yet or had to tell his dad. Cha found out woo wasnt home and went back to korea and cha was gonna go to his dads house the next day to ask for permission to marry woo but woo found out he was back in korea and ran all the way to his house.
i thought i understood but that makes it make even more sense, lol thank you (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Ty for the summary cause I was confused lmao (￣∇￣")
you know all the worlds secrets don't you ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
Ok so like the broken phone, house a mess, no indication of him looking like he was gonna throw up and no indication of everything was OK so his mate don't have to worry is not a bit of a reason to get lost? One panel shows something of abduction and the next shows a wedding ring. Again, odd. I think, if scenes were not cut, the author wants people to think the worst for a moment. I got it at the end but that's an odd tactical writing style.
All of that really should have been in the chapter
The house wasnt really a mess. It looks like he came in the house in a hurry dropped all his belongings(breaking the phone as it dropped), rushed to the bathroom subsequently knocking some stuff over to go throw up. If the author revealed it was pregnancy right at the beginning it would leave no suspense and the end of the chapter wouldnt tie in together. Its supposed to be suspenseful and people are supposed to use context clues.
Lol it was in context clues.
Dont go around telling people my popularity will skyrocket and ill be embarrassed
Nah man. I'm pretty sure he was abducted and didn't run away to korea. His dad doesn't like cha so I wouldn't put it past him for pulling this stunt. He pulls a similar stunt in the future Wooyoung also mentioned how he snuck out of the house while the dad was asleep. If he were to have ran away I believe he would have stayed at a hotel and not his fathers. As to how/when he found out he was preg idk about that. I do believe there may have been some time skipping going on based on what the secretary was saying. But within that frame of time he found out? Idk tbh lol. I do know that in the next ch/couple of ch* my memory is bad* they go to the hospital and do an check up/ultrasound of the baby.
But the story is missing some shit so who knows lol it's all speculation at this point. I've read the raws the story looks a little more concise. My Korean is pretty bad.
Truthfully from spoilers i didnt think woo found out about the baby till ch 57 so this ch was a little surprising. I feel like the dad is def possible of kidnapping but what an odd time for a kidnapping? Like my assumption is that woo ran in dropped all his belongings to throw up, goes to a hospital in the us finds out hes pregnant then goes home to figure out what to do/tells his father. And then of course woo would have to run away from his father in the middle of the night bcus his father is nutso.
Im sure it will be explained later on but based on context clues i feel like the basic information can be figured out. Woo found out he was pregnant in the first panel then cha shows up to apartment freaks out and finds out (seemingly from liam) that woo went back to korea and then theres a two week timeskip where cha gets all his work done in two weeks so that he can go back to korea and properly propose to woo.
You don't even see him rushing... where do u get rushing from and puking ? All you see is him at the door, his stuff dropped and next panel his mate walking into a mess. This can also looked as if someone was in the house and nabbed him, hence the broken phone and dropped bag. There was no indication of what happened, you just happened to guess right. Your fluffdar was at full throttle.
What they need to do is tell how wooyoung found out about being pregnant.
Also I too thought he found out in that chp lol.
But it wouldn't be an odd time for kidnapping. Do you remember In the last chapter that Liam was telling wooyoung that someone inquired about him working there a couple days ago. Dad is the most likely suspect. Also he didn't run into the apt. He was calmly walking towards the door/in the apt. Also if he did drop his stuff then throw up then go to the hospital why would he have left his phone on the floor? Itd make more sense to take your phone with you. Also based on wooyoungs character he probably would have told cha he was going to the hospital since he did tell him to go home early. It just wouldn't make sense for him to runaway to korea. Especially since he would be in his father's clutches. I wouldn't go anywhere near my enemy with the knowledge of being pregnant. when he found out about cha being back in Korea he immediately came over without shoes on when the dad was asleep. Seems to me like somebody was desperately escaping and he also didn't waste anytime in telling him that he was pregnant either.
The dad doesn't find out about him being preg until waaayy later. And that was by accident.
I hope it does get explained later. Cha most likely put two and two together from what Liam told him about a person inquiring about wooyoung working there. Hence the reason why he was a bit calmer in later panels. We can agree that there was a time skip in between these events. A couple ppl were confused about that. But I'm stoked for the wedding because it didn't happen in the raws yet and we are already 85 chapters in:')
I can't wait for him to ask the father for this blessing... That's gonna be exciting!
Oh oh it will be
Lol not really fluffdar more so context clues sure at first without finishing the full chapter you might think kidnapping but kidnapping didnt seem logical with the phone call and story plot so far along with the spoilers in the comment section every week. The only one who would really kidnap him is his father and that would still play into woo finding out hes pregnant first as his father has no other reason to kidnap him
How is kidnapping illogical? Why was it not logical with the phone call?
How is kidnapping illogical? Why doesn't it seem logical with the phone call? How does his father kidnapping him play into wooyoung finding out he was preg first?Why wouldn't his father have any other reason in kidnapping? Let's say he kidnapped him, what would you think wooyoung's dad would kidnap him for?
Btw I'm not tryna argue with you/attack you/say ur wrong. i just genuinely want to know how you came to these conclusions. I just like debating with ppl and I find your theories/thoughts interesting.
I def didnt get the impression you were trying to argue. I like swapping theories/ideas as well. Well we know the dads a nut but other than that we have seen any characters show malice towards woo and the story as a whole didnt seem to be going in that direction its mostly been fluff so to have like a serious abduction from a new character would be to bizarre in the plot. The fathers reason for sending woo to america was his relationship with cha so his reason for kidnapping woo would probably be the same as he wanted woo to finish his studies in america so either the dad kidnapped him bcus he found out cha was in america and theyre were still messing around with each other and then woo found out he was pregnant in korea and his dad had him on locked down for two weeks so he couldnt contact cha which made him run away in the middle of night to see cha OR woo got sick found out hes pregnant runs away or is forced to come home without communicating cha but someone said above that apparently the dad doesnt find out about the pregnancy till later so as far as that goes idk.
BETHC17 just mentioned "spoilers", it's not a logical guess if your told how it will play out.
Lmao plssss the only spoilers ive seen is that he finds out hes preg episode 57 which was kind of a lie since we found out episode 55 and that his dad doesnt find out hes pregnant till later on thats hardly how it will play out
Eh? But Beth didn't really mention anything spoiler like. They only explained their theories.
My bad Beth sorry for spoiling on that last part sksk. It slipped out cause when I was first reading the book, it was also just one of my theories. Now I feel bad:') I let it slip when I was trying to make my argument. If its one thing i hate the most it's spoilers.
Hahaha no pls dont feel bad i actually dont mind spoilers at all!! I mean i dont try to go spoiling things for others but i love spoilers bcus i tend to be a rather impatient person sometimes ive avoided looking at the raws of this but when some people spoil it a bit i dont mind
Ok hahaXD. Yeah man I had just assumed that you read the raws not that you've only seen a snippet sksk, but take what I say with a grain of salt cause my Korean is not that good. I'm better at Japanese and Chinese
I love spoilers as well when it comes to these manhwas. They make me very nervous. It gives me anxiety waiting so I was like screw it I'll read the raws with my crappy Korean haha.
Ah ok good lol. The story really has been a lot of fluff hasn't it. And that's what made me nervous. Like what yaoi omegaverse out there is truly fluffy(ik some exist tho). Anytime I go into omegaverse/yaoi I always expect the worse to happen. Because bad things always happens:') so I read these with dread in my heart
This author needs to tell us how wooyoung found out. I'm gonna assume it was in Korea. But we need to know when it clicked for him. I do like your theories tho and im not gonna expand on my theories cause I'll prolly let something unintentionally slip again lol. If I do catch you in another comment section I'll definitely debate again if our views diverge.
He did in one of his messages tagging me and he confirmed he knew about the pregnancy before that chpt because of them.
Hahahha oh my god sooo true at this point the angst is gonna hit us like a train
Ah yes pls do i like swapping theories with you! Lol its ok im bad at korean too i use a shitty translating app on my phone to at least help me a little
As far as i knew everyone knew about the pregnancy ive seen that spoiled majorly on almost every platform
I personally don't like spoilers, takes the fun out of the surprise.
But it wouldn't be considered a spoiler since you find out in this chapter that he's pregnant tho? This is now known information. And using this Information beth made a couple theories about the beginning events of this chapter. Knowing he's pregnant isn't gonna expose anything. It's not like they read the rest of the story lol. They just made and observation and came up with a theory.
Yes we gotta gear up for these chps.
No, he stated that he didn't know why people didn't understand it wasn't a kidnapping. FYI, he even said the word spoilers and he found out, not theorized before it was revealed, that's a clear cut definition right there.
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Pls i hope jooin gets mad at the both of them. Cain is so sketchy acting like a dumb foreigner when hes really weird and conniving lmao. Not yawhi thinking that being good to jooin just means giving him good sex. Both of them are fighting over jooin when theyre both garbage jooin better grow some balls and cuss them out.