Minho may not be such a good person, but he remains an angel among the others. Let's see what we have? A woman who sees herself as a dom but doesnt know what consent is, and feeds on revenge and hatred. A naive boy parasitic dependent on this woman. The woman's buddy, also an obsessive psychopathic man who took the tradition of rape.
When she fucked Minho without consent in hotel room, it was actually no different from Cha. Didn't you see how desperate Minho was there? Or when Doona threw away Minho's glasses like trash, you didn't actually locate Minho in this story? Yes, the writer sees minho like a trash. And the only reason they go through it is because of a man with harsh criticism and saying whatever comes his mouth.
Actually, you see, that's the worst part. Although we here criticize this course of the story somehow, many Korean fans say that he deserves this ending. This is sooo shitty. I am sure there will be people thinking like here. My advice to them, please consume meat, milk and protein because obviously your brain isnt getting oxygen from unhealthy diet.
Baby cats should come... PLEASE WE ARE CLOSE TO MARCH
And I've seen a few people compare lelouch and eren. Guys... Isn't it kind of silly to compare a character like Lelouch with someone like a eren? The ending of Code Geass was well plotted. I don't think we will have a second lelouch case. Eren fans are crazy about what I say but there's nothing I can do
I guess I'm just looking forward to eren's death. Seriously. I cant interfere with your opinion, but I hope it will result in the death of the Eren. He's fucked mother of the world
Honestly same tbh. I dont get how people try to defend him because there will never be a plausible excuse for mass genocide
I respect your opinion. I just wonder... it is just me or actually many are forget that All Eren seeks since young age is freedom - all he want is just freedom for him, his family and people in paradis. Everyone in Reiner team are thinking Paradis people are devil.... only Falco that question the brainwashing done by Marley. If Eren did not make move the entire world will join force with Marley and destroy paradise. And sadly paradise never know there’s are other human outside wall and the6 have no allies. He hear the entire speech by Willy, I suppose he know wha5 the world plotting against paradis. All he want is just freedom. No hero or villain in war... they are looking from different angle. If Eren has to die... then he die... he have fight so much he need rest. This manga only left few chapter but it that is longer for example Eren die... then Marley and whe whole world fight against paradise, do you think they can fight back and win? Or paradise will just become history and will no longer exist?
Right about now, after everything Eren has done, the marleyans are willing to make peace with the eldians due to the killings they are witnessing. I forgot what chapter it is but someone is speaking that if they could turn back time, they would do things differently.
Thanks for the insight, probably I misse that chapter. The one that offer peace was Marley government or just the army that get caught by the survey corps? They willing to make peace sincerely because they realised what they did so far was wrong or the knew that Eren is over power them and they know whatever they do Marley can never win against Eren? If Eren never have the founding Titan will they still offer peace? The culture of brainwashing was happen for a very long time, all generations in Marley having the same believe that paradise is devil, that mindset can’t be change overnight. What I can see from Eren side... his entire life was fighting, witnessed horror just to seek for his freedom and the people of paradise. Tbh the only character from Marley side I like the most is Falco, because he was the only one that question whether what they did is right or wrong.
I have a question. Other than the people of paradis, are the only last living people in the world are the people on fort Slava?
They should be more people outside the wall, it just paradis people are not aware until 850 I think. I’m not against anyone who want Eren to die, if he has to die then He has to die. But the way I see Eren character is that he just fighting for his freedom, his family and all paradis people. He take the burden all to himself, If the world have common enemy and everyone will unite to destroy it, and I think Eren understand that pretty well. Thus Eren make shields of his friend so that he will be the only one to blame. Let’s wait next chapter his action maybe more clear.
Honestly that’s a pity. I don’t agree with Eren’s plans at all but I still like Eren. The whole point of AOT is understanding perspectives. Everyone is who they are for a reason. It’s hard to judge Eren with our morals, becuase his experiences honestly go beyond human comprehension. I can’t hate Eren when I know he’s a product of his world and really really wanted good things from the start. When you see that others are flawed individuals jsut like you, that’s when the cycle of hate can stop. Accepting that humans and human nature is flawed is the key to peace. So hating Eren sorta ruins that point.
I want Eren to die too at this point, for some different reasons tho. It’s sad that so many glorifying his actions. And it’s also sad that so many hate him without maybe trying to be in his shoes. Doing either goes against the whole message. He’s the absolute centerpiece of this story and embodies a lot of themes. He’s a great character, likeability aside.
I am the one who ships secretary cha and mina? They are both very interesting characters I hope they have side stories
I WAS LITERALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT AS I WAS READING
Not bad, not bad.
I cant say anything... he is doing right think or not... my mind is just confused （￣ へ ￣）
Someone says that Minho is selfish and deserves what he went through because of the things he did in the past. Yes, half-witted ones, then Gordon Ramsay must be mistreated for his personality. I wish I had a magic wand and could send people with this mentality to rehabilitation for free. The real sadness is that the people who say this have a real life, family and friends. There are people who can watch Minho's suffering like a rabid dog, and these people are among us. I don't want to be a drama queen, but fuck the brains of people like that.
minho is a flat character. i dont care if he succeeds or gets tortured. stop having empathy for the blandest of men.
Gordon Ramsay is actually so fucking sweet omg. I;ve met him before, and in like all of his shows, he's only hot-headed and mean to ppl he's teaching how to cook lmao
Came here to say that. He's adorable ! And with his mom he's the sweetest !!
Minho is nothing like that. I get that nobody deserves rape, but must admit I love seeing him getting bullied. How many years has he been looking down on people?
I didn't say that he's an awesome character anyway. I think your understand with your ass what I'm saying. What I want to say over and over again is not whether minho's character is good or not, but whether what happened to him shouldn't be incompatible with his personality
I love Gordon Ramsay, but there are a lot of people around me who find it repulsive. I wish I could meet him, officially icon. You're so lucky
Because they never saw the little cooking contest with his mom lol !
I don't think your dumb ass understands what I'm saying. You've completely misinterpreted what I was trying to say, bit I'm not surprised. The femdom manga community is dumb as fuck. People like you make me not want to be a femdom.
I looked at their answers and you really like Doona and Chu, hah? That was the reason why I got mad at what I wrote. I see. What should i hope for you? I'm sure you'd like to be with a woman like Doona. Fucking Stalin with mascara hahahhahshs You can drive those who don't think like yourself to the Gulags :D
No one's mad at whatever you wrote, you just have sympathy for men. The boring kind, too. If Haesol was raped maybe I might feel sympathy.
fuck you are shit
I seriously hope (because you declare you are a dom irl), you don't have much to do with men.
Characters are different to people, don't be stupid. Please don't tell me you're an antishipper. Let people consume whatever content they want. We're not going to actually act it it.
"you just have sympathy for MEN"
Yes it's so bad to have sympathy for men. Or maybe you should construct and word your comments better
Because we're talking in a FICTIONAL context I doubted I needed to clarify that I'm talking fictional men. Well, here's your clarification.
I just find it hilarious how you accuse people of misogyny comments based on their opinion about fictional characters meanwhile you do the same just the other way around.
I don't care if people don't *care* about fictional women. I care only when women are perceived in a different light to men who have done equivalent things/act in equivalent ways.
Eg. I don't care about Anastasia Steele from 50 shades of grey. I don't care if she gets sexually assaulted or not. (And she does get sexually assaulted.) HOWEVER, I do care that people view her as dumb or weak when a male character with her role would be called "cute" and applauded for "breaking gender roles."
Meanwhile you don't really care that many readers can't comprehend that Minho was raped because obviously he could have overpowered her etc although nearly no one'd question such thing if their roles were reversed.
And in mangas where the woman does get raped no one actually gives a fuck?? In male orientated ero manga, male audiences don't care if the character made out to be bitchy/ annoying and overbearing gets raped by the ML. In female oriented ero manga too, actually. The audience still doesn't care when the FL is raped as long as the guy raping her is hot enough.
We are talking about recognition, not reader's feelings about the situation right now.
We are, and always have been talking about reader feelings. When male characters get raped people care. When female characters get raped, people don't.
Yes world is 1:1, black and white.
And I was talking about recognition.
My point still stands that even in male oriented manga, even if it's recognised as rape, people will say she deserved it and "that scene was so hot", while it's different in sadistic beauty.
Oh but we have people here, not even such a small group, who repeats how Minho deserves it or even more.
Its a very small group overshadowed by the numerous people who do recognise that it's rape and realise that he doesn't deserve it.
But still they exist.
And about the whole point: hypocrisy shouldn't justify other hypocrisy.
But maybe everyone is hypocrite to some point.
We will always have neofascists in our modern day society. But they're a minority, so to say that we live in a society overshadowed by fascists is a false statement. The people justifying the rape/not recognising the rape of Minho are a small minority of the SB fandom. The people justifying rape/not recognising rape when the genders are reversed in H fiction are a majority. That's what I find an issue with.