His actions are kinda toxic ngl. I like Yohan and he's sweet and all but this ain't it chief. Him knowing she likes him but he thinks he doesn't like her (which he mentioned) but still being friends is bad. Like he wants to hold on to her and craves her affection but he's just giving her mixed signals. If a person I like and I'm trying to not like is acting all sweet, cute, clingy with it'd probably make me like them again. And that's not what Hari wants. I get Yohans feelings of not wanting to see her with someone else, or being mad about the bussines line but those are the feelings if a bf or a dude in love not a FRIEND. God this is Adrien and Marinette all over again (except Adrien is a angel that came to earth). I just hope Yohan sorts his shit out and doesn't hurt any more people with his selfish thoughts.
That’s not toxic, it’s just misguided.
If you use the word toxic for a situation like this, you disrupt the scale for relationships that truly are what you can define as toxic.
I didn't say the relationship is toxic, but it kinda was. But at the same time wasn't. His actions are toxic, and you can't say they aren't. He's intrudung on her plans, talking shit about the person she likes. He's happy when he finds out he's a dick (any normal person would be angry for their friend) and repeatedly wanting to be friends with her even if she said no. He's inadvertent hurting her with his actions and is still trying to be oblivious. That's toxic actions. I don't think he's toxic but the shit he does is. Yohan can be better and I hope he is, but at the same time he doesn't deserve Hari.
Yall are so soft, crying about her breaking up with her bf cuz she saw a bigger dick. The fuck yall want her to do, keep being with her bf while not being sexualy attracted to him. Yall just like to hate on women. Yeah it's pretty shallow that she did that but at least she broke up with him on time. And for the ones saying 'bit what if the roles were reversed' i would not give a shit. If he broke up with his gf cuz some other girls pussy look better go for it man, shallow but who tf isn't shallow. All of you act like you the pope and have some moral high ground. Yall probably as shalow as her. And when men are playboys in manga or media they are seen as 'mischievous', 'unreachable' and a cool player. But a woman is just a slut amirite.
I'm hella tired of these mls who used to hate the main character suddenly switch up and fall in love after they stop getting attention. Smh, they spoilt. （￣へ￣）
I agree, regardless i still like this, besides he has the reason to hate or be uncomfortable with the fl before and if he mets the original fl before falling with the fl, I don't think he'd be interested with our fl
the original cayena was pitiful and he knows that the original cayena was just being used by rezef but he didn't cared, he only cared for the other original fl that time. so if i know that and I'm now the current cayena, I'll feel shit. he even has the audacity to ask "why r u avoiding me?" or something i mean, it was understandable that he was uncomfortable or something with the original cayena but does he have no shame?
so yeah, no.
i agree but then again, he didn't have the obligation to care for her at that time, and imagine a person obsessively loves you when you are uncomfortable with the opposite sex. cut him some slack.
yup, i completely agree with what you're saying but think about it, he doesn't know that the current cayena is not the cayena that was obsessed with him, but he treated her not so well then suddenly he's garnering love or something to her and also acts like he's still something to her. do u get what I'm trying to say? I can't find the words to use and how to explain but dude's shameless.
no, he doesn't know the future, (when she was killed off and he didn't do anything), this is simply a change of heart, a once detestable person now seems favorable, its not shameless. its shameless if he humiliated her and then suddenly acts nice, but thats not the case. he's expecting things from her because thats the impression he got from her before, now she changed. first impressions always last.
he doesn't know but he acted it once, do u get my point from the very start.
the girl u used to avoid and ignore and didn't even handed a help (he knows or not) and HE knows that the original cayena was just being used but still what did he do? that shows everything lmao, its like i don't want u if you're this but i want you if you're that. and that's just disgusting, and please don't tell me "it's in the past" because this story is nothing without that past.
and i think cayena was pretty much humiliated because of him or by other people and her brother ig.
Damn, yall having a war in my comments. As far as I've read and this is my opinion: I like him but I don't. Because he couldn't give less of a shit when she was the old cayena and he felt disgusted by her and her obsession. Understandable. But the minute she isn't obsessing over him homeboy falls in love. And then has the audacity to think 'why doesn't she love me'. The past is the past but it always has a impact. I hate the fuckers who say the past is just the past this is the present, yeah mate that's how time works. But it also has a impact on us, you can't fall in love with someone in a minute ( earnestly ) who you hated in the past. Yeah he knew she was being used by Rezef but he didn't care, becouse she wasn't someone he cared about, she was 'pitiful'. But now that she's a bad bitch with her own mind and power lil boy comes crawling in like excuse me. There was no invitation STEP IN LINE. There's a lot of people here wanting for cayena to step on them and we ain't letting u skip the line. All in all: another trash ml, nothing out of the ordinary.
He’s not trash. What the hell are you on about. That’s too much.
There is nothing wrong with him liking her now. Everyone around her is like that, now she’s changed and turned into a better person who’s no longer a spoiled piece of shit. Everyone is attracted to her, whether it be romantic, platonic, or just plain interest. If you’re going to say that, then apply it to all the other mfs who despised her but started to like her because she’s changed. In addition, he didn’t hate her. He never did. He was just uncomfortable with her because she didn’t know how to keep her hands to herself. Also, thinking from his point of view, it’s not strange to wonder why she suddenly switched up. From obsessive in love, to someone who’s respectful. I think any normal person would question such a change that they see in someone who doesn’t usually act like that. In addition, he’s not in love with her. The manwha doesn’t display it clearly enough, but he doesn’t love her right now. He’s in the interested/like phase. He did not fall in love with her immediately. Raphael isn’t wondering why she isn’t in love with him anymore, he just made a statement that he didn’t feel that way towards her anymore. Why? Shouldn’t take long to figure out. Because she had changed. He had no obligation to like her when she was an evil bitch, but y’all like to hold that fact against him. But I think it’s a good thing he didn’t like her then. It shows a great deal about his character, that he doesn’t care for superficial things like appearance, but personality.
He fell for her when she started being considerate and it's not like he fell in love in a minute, there's process on how he fell in love
lol if the roles were reversed nobody would be shitting on anyone, men bad, women good
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Lmao no. I don't like him but i do at the same time. He is trashy and every ml like him is. I get he is fascinated by her becouse she isn't a bitch anymore i would to. But to be like why isn't she gonna marry me but a made up person is just weird. I ge he started to like her cuz she nice now but that's just as stupid as him. I would not fall in love with a person that was as disgusting as she is before. Cayen is a better person now but that doesn't mean the old cayena just disappears. It's probably for plot but why would a dude who's disgusted by her touch be in live with her the next second. And yes he probs is in love with her. HE BOUGHT A BUILDING FOR HER, he wants to see her all the time and is just out right clingy. He should get a redemption arc. But love was never really portrayed good in manga and I'm not expecting it to be in this one eather. No ones gonna take accountability nor will they face the reprocusions of their past. I'm just saying it's annoying af to see these men who hated the female leads before suddenly fall head over heels in love the minute they don't get the same affection they used to get.
No. The 'if the roles were reversed' is such a misogynistic point i have seen used badly so much. No if the roles were reversed I'd still be mad and not like the chick. But that plot point isn't seen in manga that much, it's mainly the man being like that. If you wanna see more of that and explore the possibility then go make a manga with that plot point.
Then what do you like about him?
no, its not. i dont know what misogynistic u see about it. ur just overanalyzing the ml for no reason when he literally didn't do anything wrong. he's not a prince in a white horse to help her in the first timeline. because she didn't matter to him. nothing wrong with that at all, and now he interested in her, which is totally fine.
I do like how sweet he is and that he isn't too pushy that croses the line. I like that he isn't exactly like the other mls who forcefully get the female lead to like them, the bare minimum i guess. And I see his character fluroushing as long as he doesn't step over the line. Someone can think a character is bad but still hope for improvement. It's called character development. I'd also like to see Rezef repent for the shit he did but that probably won't happen.
Never said ur opiniom was misogynistic just tha wording 'if the roles were reversed' most of the times it is used to shame women (of what i have come across). I've only seen it directed to shame women and put them down, even on mangago. If there's any about men being shamed then go ahead I'll look at them. But saying if the roles were reversed ur saying we would look at it differently just becouse she's a woman, that has nothing to do with it. and as far as I know people are almowed their opinion and I'm allowes to over analize him if I want. I'm not trynna put down yours and your opinion is valid and I willl hear u out. But the wording 'if the roles were reversed' doesn't sit right with me becouse I've seen it used to shame women for hundreds of times.
Say it with me "Beomi deserves better". His friends are shit, his family is shit his gf is meh. The only good person is his manager.
There's one question I have, why is Yohan (ml) so bland. Like don't get me wrong he is handsome but he's the type of handsome I won't remember and just mix him up with all the other blue eyed, black haired male leads out there. Even the hair style is ml typical. The only hot ones are the villains. Don't get me wrong I'd drown Noel (emperor) in a tub of vaseline if i got the chance but at least I can look at his character design and say wow he looks hot. Like the red haired dude is hot too, his character design better to say. Both of them seem a bit different than the usual male lead chart. Like why do the villains and second male leads always look more interesting and fine than the male lead. If i had to pick out this man out of 50 other the same looking ml's, I couldn't.
I feel you, is like the villains shows more expressions, evil ones, but they do and the ml is like forever pokerface but not the ones like other cold-faced ml. Plus ml is like beautifully handsome and villains are like the cool handsome, even red haired one, I can say he leans more to the beauty side but his way to pull himself, his attitude maybe? makes him seem different
Yeah. I'm pretty tired of the cold stone faced duke characters these type of manga have. Would like to see some cool facial expressions.
If someone handcuffed me like that without my consent, they would be left without their precious jewels.
When the male lead has bigger mommy milkers than the female lead :/
Who the hell just says yeah go cancel ur plans to someone? wtf. Like I see ur friends and all but that's just straight up rude. Acting like he is more important than her already existing plans then prying to see who she is going with. Like excuse me? I don't remember you being her boyfriend u are the ex hunny. （￣へ￣）
God, I'm so happy to see a different looking male lead. The green hair? fenomenal. The brown eyes? astounding. Me? in love. Breed? different.ヾ(☆▽☆)
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