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You must not be a fan of villainess reincarnation stories then. Cause what those portrait is the same thing as what Ruveliss went through, his only disadvatage is that he didnt know he committed atrocious acts in his first timeline. Lol.

i’m fine with villainess reincarnation because more often than not they’re just petty antagonists not rapists who mentally torture their significant other then murders them. take aria from tvrthg where she was anger driven in the first tl but became smarter and the person she was ‘hurting’ was equally as bad as her. ruve on the other hand never saw tia do anything remotely villain like yet created a delusion within his mind.

Isnt Ruve driven with anger too? Not to mention he was being fed by duke Zena with a copious amount of drugs? And villainess stories mostly gloss over what they have really done in their past lives.

First Ruve was clearly not a victim however. He literally raped her while sleeping with his lawfull wife at the same time (the novel was very clear about that contrary to the manhwa). There is no amount of drugs and prejudices that would explain that let alone justify it, even more so when it conveniently targeted Tia only. Meaning that it came from himself. And since Second Ruve was well on his way to do the same things if the victim did not change, I let you make the conclusion we can make from that. It's also very telling that he is never the one to make the efforts and actions. Tia is. He neglected her after putting her into a comatose state for instance. If he was the "sensible and kind" misunderstood boy that some readers are trying to paint, he would not have waited to be attracted to her and want her to finally start caring for his own fiancée. And I am not even talking about the fact that he was 15 years old, so far from being a "boy", when he targeted without reason at all a child of barely 10 years old!

Then isnt Ruve a victim of trauma cause he was not brought up properly? Everyone also clearly favored Aristia over him so he became unstable coupled with Duke Zena's influence on him when he was growing up then with a side of hallucinogens? People do unspeakable things when they are under the influence of drugs, dont you watch the news?

But in this kind of cases they are not prejudicied toward one person only, are they? Drugs that provoque irrationality or paranoïa completely influence the mind and behavior in their entirety. Drugs addicts are acting irrationaly at all times, at various degrees when they are high or when they experience withdrawal symptoms, and hurt indiscriminately the people around them, even the people they love. It was not the case with First Ruve. If he was gone to the point of doing all of those things to Tia, who he barely interacted with, he should have targeted and hurted others to the same degree without being able to controle himself, especially Ji-eun. Tia was not and coud not possibly have been there all the time to concentrate the effects of the drug on herself only. Ergo, the drug did not help but only affected something that thas already there. And in fact it was the same with Tia: it's her own feelings that pushed her to stab him. The drug once again did not help but only exacerbated something that was already there.

And it's where Ruve's past come into action. It did not change on the second timeline, so using it as an excuse imply that First Ruve and Second Ruve are mostly the same after all and that First Ruve is who he was going to become regardless of the drug, even if he would have been less abusive somehow. And why did he change specifically his behavior toward Tia? Because she changed. If she had remained the smart and level-headed woman of the first timeline he would have mistretead her again and for no reason at all but his own inferiority complex and prejudice. He made her the villain of his story on no basis at all. She never, herself, did anything that would warant so much hatred from him. She is only a villainess on name. Ergo, he is not a good man at his core and the only reason he is decent is because he want her now. Granted, it's not what the author intended to show. But since we have no reason to believe that he would not have turned horrible against her. Quite the contrary in fact, since Ji-eun is basically the new oldTia! for him and that, spoiler alert








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he would have let her die the same way he did Tia.

i agree. ruve was under the influence of drugs but his actions towards tia were motivated by something the drugs didn’t create. he was already insecure and hostile towards tia and definitely hated how she was superior to him. he went through no character development and only became attached to the new tia because of her being less stoic. his actions hurt no one but tia and the fact that he hated her for being better than him is pathetic.

I disagree. Drug addicts mostly doesnt hurt their friends, do they? And those who are highly influenced by drugs usually takes out their anger to the people who they hate the most. Drug addicts usually kills family members when they are high on drugs, do they not?

They don't kill their friends but their family?

Delusional

Yeah. Usually when I watch the news it is always their family who drug addicts kill. I dont know why, ask them because they are clearly delusional.

ok but drugs usually mess with a persons self control and judgment meaning whatever actions they take are purely compulsive. i don’t think that the drugs that ruve took were specified but he clearly looked normal and not under influence.

I'll die on this hill