agastopia's Topics (79)

what about the other way around????

u need a hug bro?

please sir stfu!!<3

Yeah eiji from you

you're mentally ill, move.

?????????

They were never happy together? It was an extremely toxic ‘relationship’, if I dare say so myself, it wasn’t even a relationship, they also didn’t love eachother, they used eachother as an excuse, yoonbum had an obsession with Sangwoo and Sangwoo wanted someone to blame for his shitty life, why not a person who looks like his mother who gave him the shitty life he never asked for!

Yeah thats why im saying i want them to be happy and love each other?

O-ok but that’s kinda messed up since Sangwoo isn’t even gay and kidnapped, tortured and raped Yoonbum several times yet you still ship them?

i just want them to be happy with an another story i dont want yoonbum to be upset i hate sangwoo

Okay stop defining people by their sexuality, it dosent matter if you straight, gay or lesbian our sexuality change all the time and we can still end up falling for someone that dosent fit in the category of our “sexuality”...
And i get is a pretty toxic “ship” and is a very unhealthy realationship (which is meant to be) but I wouldn’t say he directly kidnapped him, well Bum kinda broke into his house (im sorry, it so weird).. and yes he tortured him, but I wouldn’t call it rape when Bum was teh one who wished a sexual realationship and also said multiplied time that he enjoyed it and liked it...

Again I’m not trying to romanticize it or “ship” them together, just try to make some thing more clear!!

Maybe Sangwoo wanted to blame someone, but who was it that blamed the other for everything that happened?? Bum... he’s “scared” of the police so he is the one who tell Sangwoo kidnapped him from the street, forced him in the “realationship”, was teh one who killed the girl, and that he not once liked to be with him (and I’m not only meaning sex here)

The reason Yoonbum acts the way he does is because he has a mental disorder calls Stockholm Syndrome, Google it if you want to know more, but that means he thinks he loves his kidnapper, look, Yoonbum only stayed with Sangwoo because he didn’t want to go back to his old life, it was horrible, and in that situation he had no choice, did you not realise how scared he was most of the time, and when he wasn’t scared he was just manipulated into loving and staying with Sangwoo, Yoonbum wasn’t scared of the police either, he was avoiding them because he wanted to stay with Sangwoo ( because of his Stockholm Sydrome ) but also didn’t want himself to get in trouble because he murdered someone, which also made him a murderer so he couldn’t really turn back anymore and stayed with Sangwoo

It’s not SS

Well fuck you mangago for deleting 99% of that comment (︶︿︶)＝凸 (fuck finger)

You can google it and it will say that Yoonbum does not only have Stockholm Sydrome but also BPD ( Bordeline Personality Disorder ) and as someone who has experienced symptoms of BPD I must say, it is extremely unpleasant and can lead to the things that Yoonbum did, when you have BPD you become extremely scared of abandonment and rejection so you go to great lengths ( such as Yoonbum killing a person ) for someone you like so that they stay. Yoonbum and Sangwoo both had many mental disorders, anyone would have to be able to do the horrible things they did ( there are very few cases where people are just evil for the sake of being evil, so I am not saying everyone with a mental disorder are dangerous, if anything they are a danger to themselves more than others ) also, when you have BPD it is known to have very unstable and abusive ( whether it’s physical, verbal, or mental ) relationships because of those abandonment issues and fears. I believe you have read this whole book so you should know the crazy mood swings they both have ( it is believed that they both have BPD, whether it be different forms but they both have similar symptoms so it’s safe to assume they both have it ) and I say it’s safe to assum because this disorder can be very easily misdiagnosed for many reasons, it is extremely hard to diagnose someone with BPD because it can sometimes seem like other mental disorders. Look, I know a lot about mental disorders because I have experienced it first hand, I know they both have mental disorders and it’s also just common sense, their “relationship” is toxic and disgusting and it all started up by their extreme problems that should of been at least solved or they should of got the help they needed.

This is the definition of SS from google:

Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response. It occurs when hostages or abuse victims bond with their captors or abusers. This psychological connection develops over the course of the days, weeks, months, or even years of captivity or abuse.

And you still believe Yoonbum does not have SS and BPD? You should better educate yourself with mental disorders and how to tell if someone may be experiencing it because if you truly believe they are fine, then you should do research because if anyone you cared about or loved ended up getting hurt because of a mental disorder which you could not identify, it would be extremely sad, and this goes for everyone

Were did i say he dosent have BPD??? And again my comment was deleted so you didn’t probely dont know what i would have said, so you cant really respond to it.hmm?? And I’m to lazy re writhe... but basically i dont think it was SS because Bum “loved” Sangwoo before he got kidnapped, first chapter is basically him saying he broke into his house “because of love” so yeah...

Again I know both have BPD and other mental issues, i never said they dont, just that i personally dont see it as SS...so don’t come at me like I’m some clueless idiot when it come to mental issues, because you know shit about me and what is going or what i have experienced...

It’s not about what you ‘think’ if you google ‘what mental disorders do Yoonbum have’ it will come up with BPD, and he never loved him, how many times do I have to say it, it was an obsession, If you really really believe he loved him just go look at what the author said because she is the creator after all

I just wrote love because that was what Bum said himself... and again I never said he didn’t have mental disorder(⊙…⊙ ) are you even reading what I’m writing... and I also see it as an obsession but also some form of “love” in storm part of the stories.. and yes toxic and mental I’ll people can love, and yes, it’s a bad realationship, but you can love someone while still hurting someone.. just ask all the toxic -art nerds out their, they love their partner but have some have so many issue they end up killing them! And the author did confirm Sangwoo loved Bum ┑(￣Д ￣)┍ but again this conversation isn’t even about whatever they did or did not love eachother..

How could Sangwoo love another man if he was straight, he isn’t gay? Also, he didn’t love Yoonbum because of Yoonbum, he loved him because he was his mother in his mind, so he didn’t really love Yoonbum himself

Stop defining People by thier sexualites, and again author confirmed, and you can love someone No matter the gender, sexualitet whatever.. and No in the end he Saw him as Bum and not only as his mom...

How am I defining people by their sexuality.....? I am non-binary and bisexual so not quite sure if, I, myself, am defining people by their sexuality, I am stating the obvious, if you are a man and like another man you are gay, pan, bi, omni, etc, not straight, and at what point did Sangwoo ever love Yoonbum in the end? He may of seemed that way because Yoonbum was the only person in his life who knew the true him and accepted that, though that did not mean he loved him, god, look, they were never once happy in both of their lives, whether they were together or not, they did not love eachother, Sangwoo used Yoonbum for his sexual frustration but also to take out the anger for his mother, out on Yoonbum, and if you actually googled, there is evidence, that the only reason Yoonbum is still with Sangwoo is because he has SS, it’s not “well I don’t THINK he has it”, that’s not how mental disorders work, irl or in book/games/movies etc, he HAS it, they both have mental disorders and both need eachother and use eachother in different ways and it may seem like love but let’s not ignore the fact that Sangwoo was so angry at Yoonbum ( because of the misunderstanding ) that he tried to murder Yoonbum, not even just once, not quite sure if the person you love is supposed to try and murder, torture and rape you. Not to mention how he manipulated Yoonbum into murdering somebody, which, Yoonbum did end up giving in and killed her.

Even if it was love, I still don’t think you should be supporting it, because it was extremely toxic and disgusting

Have i ever Said i support it? Go read some of My comment Will ya? And stop written to me you are Pretty dumb and you pis me off, sry... i Said what i Said and shared My opinion and yes invandrere be THINK because its a fucking story were you can have your own thought and opinions on..