bro istg ts not good for MY mental. #freeruby till its backwards. KILL FREYA KILL CESARE KILL EVERYBODY WHO PLAY IN RUBY FACE
bro this is killing me why are they even tgt. haesol get ur shit tgt plz nd ty and yeonwoo stop shutting haesol out. matter of fact jus break up bro i cant do this
Lol fr
they nee to break up asap, the relationship won't last long in rl
LITERALLY
why are some of yall going so hard to defend this nga and excuse the fact that he literally raped that boy...atp yall are trying to convince urself that it didnt happen bc its as clear as day...
No one is defending him. We're looking at it from both perspectives unlike you.
please enlighten me. what other perspective is there?
Omg, you exposed yourself! Hilarious.
Look at it from Dan who isn't able to voice his thoughts and jk who is oblivious to how his partner has been suffering. Try reading chapters 3 and 4 carefully my dear. You need to be able to distinguish two different things.
LITERALLY THIS the manwhaspicy fucker thinks the rape is okay, istg the society we live in today
how did I expose myself if I'm just trying to understand why you believe that he didn't rape Dan?
and how are u saying that he isn't able to voice his thoughts if he clearly said that he didn't want to do it and he said he was scared??? I would assume that he WAS in fact expressing how he felt in his current situation.
there isn't really anything to distinguish because if he said he was scared and he ultimately didn't want to do it, even if he consented at first and then changed his mind, and Jaekyung coerced him into doing it by threatening him, then it is rape.
LMFAOOO ts is jus kinda baffling to me
i know, they all have alt accounts, its either their friends or its all just one god damn person making a fool of themselves
LMAO sometimes u jus gotta be ya own backup sometimes
LMFAOOO WORD
No one is defending him. There is literally no rape in this story. Rape is your pov.
We don’t excuse it. We see the details stated otherwise.
We are not trying to convince ourselves because it is as clear as day it didn’t happen.
Read the story closely. I see you making shit up on us here to feel superior in your POV. Threatened much?
Go read stories with rape and then come back.
Hogu Hagyeongsu - rape
Kiraide Isasete - rape
Caste haven - rape
Mob for Jack - rape
Maki-chan wa Kare to Sex Shitai - rape
falling alpha enigma the fourth bath - rape
harami bara - rape
abarenbo_honey - rape
Under grand hotel - rape
Jinx- isn’t rape. If It is rape, it is a kid’s version.
Stop making jinx rape. It is not. You have rape on the mind to enforced it in a story that doesn’t have it.
This is you forcing you pov. Rape is your pov. This is a story. It is not real.
See your pov in a story or you are a fucker who thinks rape is okay in real life.
That is delusional.
You are being ridiculously disgusting.
He does not see rape in the story. You do.
You are forcing you beliefs on him to be right in a story.
If he doesn’t see rape, it has no weight on his view in the real life.
It is like using God on an atheist. They don’t believe in God.
There was a rape survivor that didn’t see rape in this story. She hated the story. She hates rape. She is not okay with rape in real life. You are being ridiculously disgusting.
There is not rape in a story ≠ okay with rape in real life
However, forcing a story to be rape is a different story. Forcing rape to be in a story = okay with rape .
i aint reading allat
Lazy
This help in blocking you. There is no conversation with you. Learn how to communicate better.
I think this is a very ignorant thing to say. The thing is if there is rape, there is rape. There is NO pov in the way you are using it, "Oh gee well I don't see it as rape!!
I agree that was a very ignorant thing to say to my comments.
The story’s pov is there is no rape. It is not my opinion or my pov. There is no rape in the story. Read the story closely or learn what rape is.
The thing is if there is no rape, there is no rape. There is no pov that can change the story.
“ I gee I crave rape and have to see rape in a story so let’s make the story’s pov their POV to be right”.
I want to open up on the, "learn what rape is," topic. I'm not trying to invalidate your own personal experience, but I would like to add a little insight, if I may. I looked at all the examples you have been listing under lots of threads of people discussing the topic, which they have the write to do, and all of your examples are definitely rape, but only one facet of rape. The type of rape that all your examples are of are of very brutal/violent, forced fucking, but the type you're missing is rape through sexual coercion-like in Jinx. This is where the fucking happens, and albeit the fucking may not be forceful, a party involved either didn't give their consent, OR , in this case, were put in a position where they really couldn't say, "no," which is where the coercion came in.
Now here's the thing about coerced fucking ie rape, is highly accepted in the vast majority of the world, and since this kind of sex may not leave physical scars, it's discredited which is disgusting. Anyways, like the disgusting argument that, "if the sex was good, it wasn't rape-" which just is totally ignoring the whole reason rape is a problem, --these are both nuances of rape that are harshly overlooked, and leads to heart-crushing situations.
I apologize if this felt like I was attacking you, but I hope you will maybe consider this viewpoint.
(Also, there are lots of people with coercive relationships (that can lead to rape), and this has nothing to do with whether or not the story or the writer is necessarily a bad one, again, I think people are just acknowledging the situations problems at the moment, and are not trying to dig at the authors of the manhwa.)
Thank you
lmao pussy you blocked me bc im just too right!
Hi, thank God you're an open-minded person. That's cool and I really hope we come to an agreement.
In chp 3 Dan consented jk and they both came to an agreement. He had the chance to say no but decided to stay. And after getting ready to shower, jk dragged him out because he was wasting his time which is understandable. After all, his jinx was very important to him and it was quite late for them to be having sex presuming jk had to be sleep and be lively for the match.
He was already annoyed but that doesn't also mean Dan deserved being pushed around like that. And when they start Dan says he can't do it anymore which jk found annoying by saying, “You think I'm some sort of joke to you, don't expect to leave here like that last guy safe and sound” I think that's what he said. But if you look at jk pov, he didn't even mean to threaten him, that wasn't his intention if you notice his next reaction at that specific moment. And at that moment he also remembered the insult that last whore threw at him about his championship which drove him angry to say those words to Dan. And Dan then said in his thoughts, “Right, I had already agreed, I can do this” I agree that Dan felt threatened but you can't say that when you look at both POV's and you can't use this statement “Jk threatened Dan.”
In a court,
Yes judge I said he should put it in.
Yes judge I agreed to sign the contract.
Judge: Did he threaten you to agree?
Dan: He looked intimidating and he sounded angry that I was already backing out when I had already agreed. Besides, I also needed the money pretty badly and I had also consented to another 14,000 dollars thereafter because I was able to endure the first round.
This wouldn't and cannot be considered coerced rape when you look at their parts. Thank you.
Idk how you can say there's no rape/SA in the atory when chapter 3 exists AND saying people are craving rape because they point out the guy SA/rapes the other guy??? That's wild
Gaslighting.
I have repeatedly said. There is no rape in this story. It is SA and abuse.
Learn there is no rape in this story ≠ no sa.
https://florinroebig.com/sexual-assault-guide/
“ Rape is a form of sexual assault. However, not all forms of sexual assault will be considered rape. ”
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14226757/
Us: we read the story carefully see SA and abuse. There is no rape.
They are not pointing out rape. They are pointing out SA and abuse.
Try reading my comments or understand SA?
I don’t see this. I hope you are a genuine person. For days I have been a victim of cyber bullying. This is one of my post to them. To get them to read and compare more than you pointed out. I wanted them to see the dialogues, how the uke acted, and letting them know I know what rape it. When you tell them “Jinx is not rape”. You get called a rape apologist or worst. Sometimes, you get a definition of what rape is that debunks rape in the story.
It was a message to them doing a few different things. I have read those stories and they are different facet of rape. There are many different type of rape stories missing.
“rape through sexual coercion-like in Jinx.”
Did you read the full scene. He didn’t coercion him. I think I have to look at the list because I think sexual coercion is there. Dispar didn’t copy and paste on the above comment. Did you look at Dispar? He is in love with his seme but he is in a position where he can’t say no. His seme almost choked him to death.
“Now here's the thing about coerced fucking ie rape, is highly accepted in the vast majority of the world, and since this kind of sex may not leave physical scars, it's discredited which is disgusting.” Yes. That is disgusting.
“Anyways, like the disgusting argument that, "if the sex was good, it wasn't rape-" which just is totally ignoring the whole reason rape is a problem, --these are both nuances of rape that are harshly overlooked, and leads to heart-crushing situations.” Yes. This is disgusting.
“I apologize if this felt like I was attacking you, but I hope you will maybe consider this viewpoint.”
No I don’t felt attacked I just think you seen one comment thinking that is how I got my judgement. My judgement is from the story. If you carefully reviewed the story and dialogue. You will see it is not rape. As you put sexual coercion-like in Jinx. You are using background information that is not knowing to Joo. Joo told him to leave twice. Dan could had said no. Dan consented. Dan agreed. Joo is offering him money like he does other men. Joo doesn’t know his financial situation. This isn’t Okane Ga Nai. I could had that one. Look at the full picture. This is not sexual coercion. Be in the room or be Joo. Dispar the uke literally has no choice. Dan does.
the literal definition of rape is "unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the person subjected to such penetration"
Dan DID NOT consent because he said he didn't want to do it anymore. it doesn't matter if he initially consented and went over to that man's house. HE CHANGED HIS MIND. and he was threatened by a literal professional boxer and not to mention he works with that same man.
the only reason he went on with it is because he was scared. he was scared of what would happen to him if he insistently denied having sex with him.
COERCION IS NOT CONSENT
SEX WITHOUT CONSENT IS RAPE
EVEN THO HE WAS THE ONE WHO "PREPARED" HIMSELF, THERE WAS PENETRATION AND HE DID NOT CONSENT. HE WAS THREATENED.
Can you share with me your version of this story? Where is it located?
Try reading the story here. You will get a different story with different details.
The definition on repeat debunks rape in the story. He changed his mind again. He changed his mind again. He changed his mind again. Stop cherry picking to your POV and making up things.
wtf are u talking abt... u sound slow
Thank you for sharing your lost with me.and explaining how to define you.
Where is the grammar/spelling police? Why don’t you harass your friends or your other profiles?
What are you talking about? Tora sound smart as you just proved me wrong and I don’t what to admit it. Therefore, I will pretend to not understand plain English that proved r wrong in an ad hominem to desperately discredit you in front of my friends and audience as it is a trolling trick.used when losing. I insult you because insults mean.full of ego, childish, impulsive, and self centered.
that's nice. Have a spectacular life ig !!!
i really hope that sir mio falls out of love with yurgel and starts to love ash bc she rlly needs it...
ngl jina needs to drop dead...bc wtf is wrong bro like she rlly has no need to act like that
literally what did she do wrong (╬￣皿￣)凸
yall why are we acting like skylar isnt kinda weird for bringing up cirrus' lack of familial love growing up...like yes i agree that both of them played a part in that toxic ass relationship, but its not like cirrus put a gun to his head and forced him to get into a relationship with him...he chose to put aside everything cirrus did to him and try to love him despite their beginnings which didnt work out bc every argument stems back to cirrus' insecurities and skylars past experiences whether it be with cirrus or even minwoo so long story short kill every character except candy.
It is weird and bringing in trauma to a fight. It’s not about the force in relationship part, Skylar is just more mad about the fact that he lied even after being confronted. And Cirrus apologized while crying, Sky was crying too. This is all just too sad and angst, I’d rather read 500 chapters of face slapping revenge danmei.
+ it was literally Skylar who asked him out