This is getting hot. Anyone who hates this just needs to stop reading. I mean they both realize they caught feeling for each while
I love this turn of events. It’s causing drama. The people complaining would probably not be interested if there is no drama with this story. Just quit your complaining or stop reading it. Complaining isn’t going to change this story arc.
This arc won’t last long, 3rd guy is just there to be a catalyst so they can talk.
There are definitely better ways to execute this though, but it’s not bad enough for me to leave the story..I read main story and I love it, even if this arc isn’t as good.
I love Seung-Jeong so much for beating up the real pervert. Seung-Jeong never made Boss unconscious. Circumstances were different, Boss consented after the bathroom. And even then Boss never flat out say no to Seung-Jeong.
MC eating Sushi reminds me of this friend who doesn’t eat raw fish. For years we didn’t go have sushi. Then one day she tells me she just tried sushi on a date. I was stunned. My BF asked her how hot was the guy. And she sheepishly said very. ☠☠☠
for a hot guy, i'd try sushi too (i'm deathly allergic to fish)
This is the most interesting sexually open manga I have read. Serial monogamist are losing their shit over the fact that Ethan was kissed by someone who was in love with his father as if they fucked each other brains out. When Wren was walking around naked with Tristen, people were losing their shit too. It’s so interesting that people who read yaoi seems to be more forgiving with toxic red flag seme who literally are sexually assaulting the uke than they are with what people are calling “cheating” here. Like Tristen having Sebastian as his sex slave who takes care of him gets a pass.. But this doesn’t is funny because for two sexually aggressive protagonists, they need to only fuck each other because they are in a relationship. Clearly, the parameters of who is and what isn’t allowed is defined by the readers and not by the writers or characters. I can’t wait to see more “weird” plot points because I love how narrow minded people are being about Ethan and Tristen’s relationship is and isn’t. Like people forget this is one of the very few Yaoi that have switch/verse characters.This is more a reality of gay men then straight up either top or bottom. Non-homosexuals do not know that while there is a preference to being a pitcher or receiver, there aren’t many strictly top or strictly bottoms. Most gay men are verse with a preference to one over the other. I love how this is one of the few yaoi that shows gay men aren’t fixated in societal norms. I can’t wait to see how much more this yaoi is going to upset more people.
I didnt expect it, but wow i love your points. Especially the part of biases with seme who are actual shit to uke compared to the characters here which are on the brink of being "cheaters" (mostly talking about tristan)
You blaming "serial monogamists" for the fact that people are uncomfortable with these dudes having sexual coded or sexually explicit relationships with kids they raised is wild.
Yes. If people are uncomfortable then stop reading it. But you and I both know that people won’t. They want to continue reading it just to come and complain about the work this author chose to tell the story. Not every yaoi is meant for everyone. Hypocritical moralist like you need to just GTFO of this yaoi if you don’t like it. Nobody is forcing you to read this yaoi and come here to be a whiny little bitch because the author pandering to you and others like you. I know calling you a serial monogamist strike a nerve because deep down you know this is what you are. You like to be a keyboard warrior over a story you claim you don’t like yet cannot stop reading.
I love seeing how ruffled people are about not only the story but what I say. The comment section is full of hypocrites who claim they do t like this or that about the story. But they will keep coming back to read a manga they claim they have objections to.
Most readers have a very black and white view of things. They are only gray about toxic red flag seme SA and raping the seme. Whereas, I see the yaois in technicolors of the var LGBTQIA flags. In these works of fiction I don’t apply serial monogamy or heterosexual norms to two gay men. I am not going to rehash last week’s argument about “cheating” into this week.
For most part yeah. Most readers are just black & white on things, especially the readers in here. And unfortunately, they still go back to the manga they hate just cause.
So far this reminds me of the beginnings of Yeomin and Taeseo. Huimin is so syrupy sweet like Yeomin and Iheon is an orange flag like Taeseo. I’m laughing at both stories.
I wish we get more stories like this where it’s ambiguous and funny at the same time. Most importantly not all SA and rape filled.
Yo, this crowd is hilarious with your righteous indignation in your hetero monogamous values. I can promise you that this isn’t anything amongst gay men. You seem fine with Ethan and Tristan being verse/switch and how they were fucking others before they got together. Y’all whack to think Ethan being an actor has never kissed anyone else. Or had done sex scenes as an actor. He’s not fucking the dude. And even if he was, these are gay men. Promiscuity among gay men isn’t uncommon. I am sure he’s and Tristen weren’t living like monks while they were apart as virile men in their prime. Just because the author didn’t fill in the gap with their hookups doesn’t mean they didn’t fuck around. I love how remove from reality reader of yaoi are from how actual gay men are.
I'm really trying to understand what you're saying bc they are dating right now and I don't see anyone mentioning what mightve happened while they were apart . Plus Ethan isn't even working rn??? this is literally outside of work so do you feel that is okay for him to being intimate with this person
I mean... way to just generalise gay men as a whole...
Readers who red this kind of fictional work constantly come splash cold water reality is just a buzzkill. Plus if reader want reality. They really should go out and know the gay community. Not come from angles of heterosexual norms.
Like I said the author didn’t fill in the blanks on their time apart. But considering how both Ethan and Tristan were fucking other people before they got together. It would not be a stretch to say they would be fucking other people when they were apart.
I take it you’re a woman so you have different sexual POVs than men. For you, you know having sex with the context of being pure and not being view as a ho along with risk of pregnancy isn’t something gay men need to worry about. That’s why reading these very comments about this cheating from a female perspective isn’t the same as how men think of cheating. Men are a lot more open to extracurricular activities outside the relationship. Especially given how sexual both these characters are.
This is the most factual yaoi of how hot gay men are. Being in a relationship isn’t always about being with that one sex partner.
It’s also weird people are upset with Wren but give a free pass on Sebastian when Ethan had him as his fuck buddy/slave. You see the double standard idiocy, right?
Aren’t all the readers doing what you accuse me of doing? I am giving another perspective from what my experience with hot gay men are. Way for you to support everyone else who has generalized the whole gay community. On what authority do you stand on to back your claim. Mine POV comes from a lot of the gay men I know. I didn’t say it was all. I said it as it pertains to this storyline. If you’re too dense to know this. I can’t help your small mindedness. Especially when you’re doing the very thing you accuse me of doing. This is why gay representation from straight people are just a bunch of weirdos talking out of their asses.
heterosexuality is when ppl don’t cheat! got it. crazy way to generalize all gay men. i hope you heal, sincerely.
This is so funny reading this as a gay man........bro thinks we're all cheaters ah hell we're doomed
You’re an idiot who clearly is making spin out of this. I am saying what constitutes as cheating for heterosexual women isn’t the same for gay men. Perhaps you should talk to gay men instead of being this stupid. Even for straight men, cheating is different from straight women. If you don’t talk to enough men and just come with your preconceived notions of what social norms are across the spectrum of sexuality then it’s not my fault you’re this much of a dumbass. Come up up with this regurgitated cbullshit like of how I need to heal when your this idiotic is why straight people like to force their straight norms into the LGBTQIA communities and are clueless that your norms do not apply to people who are different than you. Seriously, the lack of brain cells I am losing with idiots like you.
Didn’t say all gay men are cheaters. You chose to read it that way. I said Gay men view cheating differently than straight women. You being a gay ,en is not a representation of ALL gay men. Stop using it like it’s some authority over what I know my gay friends do and practice. Only an idiot would come at me with “I am a gay man so I speak for all gay men” bullshit. I guarantee that even some straight men don’t find what Tristen did as cheating.
who hurt you? speak for yourself dude, just because you can’t find a good partner doesn’t mean gays go around cheating on each other, gay people can be loyal as well. don’t spread those shitty stereotypes around
Gay people can be committed you know, like it's not off the table when you realise you're gay, like I didn't suddenly go "ah shit, now I have to cheat to fit into my communities norms" like everyone from every demographic cheats it's not a culture first of all. Sure some gay men have different boundaries but boundaries are personal to each couple and partners? like I'm a gay man and cheating to me is being intimate as shown in this chapter with another person? as you said people have different views of cheating, call it "straight norms" but can't gay people also think the same, like bro I too would be mad if my partner did something like this and I'm a gay man, it's subjective and you being angry and generalising gay culture by your experience or picking simply picking a viewpoint from a sector of a massive community it's just crazy bro like is getting married also a straight norm or am I crazy?
ignore the typos I'm tired but my point still stands
"gay men view cheating differently than women" acting like we're all the same? me and my friends who are girls have all the same views, like you're looking at a category of gay men and saying it extends to all of us
Only fucktards come with idiotic comments like who hurt you as a defense mechanism because YOU got butthurt with what I said so you are using reverse psychology as if it’s actually witty. Dumbasses are always this stupid and idiotic.
Never said gay men can’t be loyal. Just saying cheating is defined differently with gay men. Even amongst straight men and straight women, cheating isn’t defined the same way. I’ve been around enough gay men who don’t have the same issues with getting pregnant and being labeled a ho for fucking around do not have as much sexual issues of being non-monogamous. It’s why women need more one-one relationships than men. It’s proven men cheat a lot more than women because what constitutes as cheating for men is vastly different than what it means for women. I cannot believe I have to explain this to idiots on some managa site sociology.
I’m not. This is making me lose brain cells talking to narrow minded idiots who are butthurt nby what I said. Y’all seem fine with pigeonholing two characters with your POVs and can’t seen beyond your stupid narrow mindedness.
I'm sorry that your social circle is full of cheaters? I'm not sure what you're angry at if I'm being honest, this is a site full of mostly women, what do you want them to do? switch to the gay cheater mindset and be like "yeah okay I'm cool with this" of course they're going to react with their "straight norms" and "heterosexual norms" because they're accustomed to it, I'm not sure what you're originally angry at, that people are reacting this way? like all you've done is lump the whole gay community in one box like yeah men cheat more for sure but that's literally not every gay person lmfao as you stated with "I love how remove from reality reader of yaoi are from how actual gay men are." lumping us all in like we're the avengers of cheating, like damn that must be your social circle because it's not reaching mine. You're annoyed at people who you've marginalised as people who don't agree with cheating for complaining...that they don't like seeing characters cheat so what do you want to see? what are you annoyed with?
calm you tits looool it’s not that deep.
as you can see you’re the only one defending your stereotypic ass thinking like crazy, go touch some grass, meet different people and you’ll see that people are indeed different. i’ve met enough gay people and believe me, what you say is just simply stupid and hurtful generalising.
cheating definition doesn’t come from you being gay, straight or whatever, it comes from a single person and it differs so it doesn’t mean gay men define it different, it means THE PERSON you met defines it that way. ive met enough happy monogamous gay men and enough straight hooking around men and women to know that. your orientation doesn’t mean shit with cheating.
omg i’ll stop now because it seems thinking makes you loose your brain cells and we can’t risk you loosing them all
perfectly said, love it
yes this omg
kissing someone else who isn’t your boyfriend isn’t considered cheating for gay men? pls pls PLS heal cheating is cheating for ALL relationships unless something both partners talk about and agree too
I love this chapter. Clueless uke sends too smart for his own good seme home with a severe case of blue balls. That’s what happened.