ZelAn July 13, 2021 2:14 am

This is for those who can’t understand! Take your time! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I updated my document of huge spoilers for this BL. I added the back story of Suha and Jiwoon, there are things to know about what the red head did to Suha if most of you didn’t know already.

Here’s the link to the spoilers! Go all the way down the pages for the backstory.

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-LMlWIadXBLHF-kUemkKNQCu32aJjEhOm5x7VxFQxqE/mobilebasic

ZelAn July 12, 2021 2:53 pm

I came back to read it after I left off on ch 123. Can anyone kind enough and free to give me spoilers on what’s going on? Why is everyone saying their relationship going down? I wanna know before I continue. Thanks!

    Har har July 12, 2021 3:00 pm

    its just that gio is too scared of felix abandoning him like his parents and there isnt enough communication but imo its gonna get better eventually

    ZelAn July 12, 2021 3:08 pm
    its just that gio is too scared of felix abandoning him like his parents and there isnt enough communication but imo its gonna get better eventually Har har

    Oh okay I thought it was more than that whew thank you!

    Alternative_Account July 13, 2021 3:30 pm

    Their relationship ain't going down, ppl are just over-acting. Just because of one fight, doesn't mean they're going down. And yeah, I the spoiler is they had a bit of a disagreement.

    ZelAn July 13, 2021 3:47 pm
    Their relationship ain't going down, ppl are just over-acting. Just because of one fight, doesn't mean they're going down. And yeah, I the spoiler is they had a bit of a disagreement. Alternative_Account

    Thank you!! Sweet Jesus they made me nervous for no good reason

ZelAn July 12, 2021 11:41 am

I see some of you who probably just saw this updated don’t understand what’s going on. Leaving the link here for huge spoilers from ch 81 to 85!

The ML’s name is Jiwoon
The MC’s name is Suha

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-LMlWIadXBLHF-kUemkKNQCu32aJjEhOm5x7VxFQxqE/edit

    ZelAn July 12, 2021 11:47 am

    Ask me any questions if needed.

    ☞ ̄ᴥ ̄☞ July 12, 2021 11:53 am

    Thank youuuuu

    Idk July 12, 2021 11:53 am

    Thank you :D

    Closet fujoshi July 12, 2021 11:54 am
    Ask me any questions if needed. ZelAn

    So the brown haired friend is probably gonna misunderstand and will tell suha that?

    ZelAn July 12, 2021 11:54 am
    Thank youuuuu ☞ ̄ᴥ ̄☞

    ヾ(☆▽☆)

    ZelAn July 12, 2021 11:54 am
    Thank you :D Idk

    (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    ZelAn July 12, 2021 11:57 am
    So the brown haired friend is probably gonna misunderstand and will tell suha that? Closet fujoshi

    Not sure because the raws are ended at ch 85. So I predict maybe what you said, misunderstanding the scene or knowing Jiwoon hid Suha and wants to speak to him, ask where Suha is cause remember— Jiwoon took Suha’s old phone away, brown haired friend can’t call/text.

    Hopefully raws will be updated so I can translate and put it in the spoiler doc.

    Closet fujoshi July 12, 2021 12:06 pm
    Not sure because the raws are ended at ch 85. So I predict maybe what you said, misunderstanding the scene or knowing Jiwoon hid Suha and wants to speak to him, ask where Suha is cause remember— Jiwoon took S... ZelAn

    Yes (●'◡'●)ノ and thanks for the spoilers(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    ZelAn July 12, 2021 12:10 pm
    Yes (●'◡'●)ノ and thanks for the spoilers(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ Closet fujoshi

    (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

ZelAn July 12, 2021 8:27 am

And I haven’t even read it yet.
Starting now!

ZelAn July 12, 2021 7:50 am

HERES THE LINK TO HUGE SPOILERS

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-LMlWIadXBLHF-kUemkKNQCu32aJjEhOm5x7VxFQxqE/edit

Okay so I posted this link here a bit ago, I’m reposting it for those who want spoilers for ch 82 to 85. There’s also spoilers for ch 81 but the ch 81 has already been uploaded!

Don’t worry, Jiwoon isn’t cheating on Suha. Why would someone who stated: “I only have you in my life” cheat for no reason? He’s not that low.

ZelAn July 11, 2021 5:10 pm

Is there a novel for this? Or novels that are like this?

ZelAn July 11, 2021 5:09 pm

I heard Uke gets raped by his bro?? Does it show scenes of him getting raped? Tell me so I can decide to drop or not.

    Yaoi Babe July 13, 2021 2:14 am

    Not active scenes just a flash of ptsd and it doesn’t look like it was anyone in the group

    ZelAn July 13, 2021 2:15 am
    Not active scenes just a flash of ptsd and it doesn’t look like it was anyone in the group Yaoi Babe

    Oh okay thank you!

ZelAn July 11, 2021 8:53 am

Really? Megumi complaining that Tsugumi is being oblivious. Saying: “He’s not really thinking about it, when Subaru was on top of me, he got so mad. But he doesn’t know I’m feeling the same way.”

I got irritated when Megumi thought that tbh. Why? Because how tf is Tsugumi gonna know if you don’t tell him you’re feeling insecure?

Anyone who likes you would be upset if someone was on top of you with your dick hanging out.
There’s a difference between SEEING it happen and having a reason to be upset/mad, and not knowing it happened and would require someone to tell you.

How is Tsugumi gonna know you’re insecure if you don’t tell him anything? Megumi you nearly got raped, don’t forget that/let it pass so easily. I bet even Tsugumi is more mad that Megumi nearly got raped rather than Megumi himself. Fucking shit. And yes Tsugumi is dense but remember he didn’t really know much of relationships/love type of feelings, even jealousy.

Glad they developed though.

Sorry this just pissed me off. Anyways this is a wholesome cute story.

ZelAn July 11, 2021 3:25 am

Man if I ever got reincarnated into this type of world, I’d kill myself there and go to another world. I like seeing sexual intercourses but not participating in one, barf.

And I like that it isn’t just smut every damn chapter, it actually also focuses on plot, that’s probably also why we don’t see the ML and MC having seggs yet so be patient fellas.

It’s a whole orgy here aside from the ML x MC; the wholesome sweet soon to be couple.

    WishingStarz July 11, 2021 3:42 am

    Same!
    I don't know about you but I'm Asexual, so I'm totally okay reading it in stories but in real life hell nah, no thanks.

    When I first started reading this, I thought it was going to be smut ever chapter, so I wasn't interested, but I'm glad I came back to check because there's an actual plot.

    ZelAn July 11, 2021 3:54 am
    Same!I don't know about you but I'm Asexual, so I'm totally okay reading it in stories but in real life hell nah, no thanks.When I first started reading this, I thought it was going to be smut ever chapter, so ... WishingStarz

    I’m not completely sure if I am Asexual, I could be. I am Aromantic though and I have Misophobia.

    ZelAn July 11, 2021 3:55 am
    Same!I don't know about you but I'm Asexual, so I'm totally okay reading it in stories but in real life hell nah, no thanks.When I first started reading this, I thought it was going to be smut ever chapter, so ... WishingStarz

    And yes! I’ve read too many of cliche/messy BLs to the point I expected this to have no good plot/plot at all.
    This is pretty nice. Art is beautiful.

    countess July 11, 2021 5:29 am

    I'm pansexual so i'de fit in well in this world

    ZelAn July 11, 2021 5:55 am
    I'm pansexual so i'de fit in well in this world countess

    Nice! I don’t mind any genders, I’m just aromantic and possibly asexual as I do not want any participation in sexual intercourses.

    countess July 11, 2021 6:02 am
    Nice! I don’t mind any genders, I’m just aromantic and possibly asexual as I do not want any participation in sexual intercourses. ZelAn

ZelAn July 10, 2021 11:17 pm

I believe Jihyun has sex addiction, not born a slurp, that’s an exaggeration. He needs medical help for that sex addict of his before getting into the relationship for his and his relarionships’ own good.

Sex addicts can’t control their urge to satisfy sexual desires I think, there have been many relationships ruined/went downhill cause of the other party’s sex addiction. My aunt had (HAD) a husband but found out he was having sexual intercourses with several other people behind her back, he had sex addiction.

So hopefully Jihyun gets help. Yohan shouldn’t have to go through what my aunt went through. Both Jihyun and Yohan deserves genuine happiness, not just for sex. I look forward to see more character developments/improvements!

Hopefully there won’t be a random love interest rival cause every time I read a BL, every time the main couple get together, BOOM *rival is here*.

    woonis July 10, 2021 11:49 pm

    I don't think that there'll be a rival, but that girl from before will probably do something

    ZelAn July 10, 2021 11:57 pm
    I don't think that there'll be a rival, but that girl from before will probably do something woonis

    Hopefully not and yeah probably :/. And I also heard she becomes good friends with them in the raws(?).

    CoyEci July 11, 2021 1:38 am

    As somebody with a very high sex drive, I just had to find someone who also has a high sex drive. I used to have 3 fwb, but after I met my ex, I’ve been satisfied…most of the time. By the looks of it, Yohan matches Jinhyun’s sex drive pretty well so I don’t think our dear uke will have the cheating issue…hopefully.

    ZelAn July 11, 2021 2:06 am
    As somebody with a very high sex drive, I just had to find someone who also has a high sex drive. I used to have 3 fwb, but after I met my ex, I’ve been satisfied…most of the time. By the looks of it, Yohan... CoyEci

    Still need medical help for sex addictions, it can improve a healthy lifestyle too and decrease chances of infections, herpes, etc. Jihyun himself stated he can’t control it so that’s why I’m saying HE needs help/
    You seem to be good at controlling maybe? If so, that’s good for you! You said “ex”, you broke up w them?

    Yohan does indeed match with Jihyun. But doesn’t guarantee he won't cheat. All we gotta hope is that is he WON’T. And yk how BLs be, treating mental issues- psychological issues like it’s not a big deal. So I doubt this author will show Jihyun getting help.

    Of course not all sex addicts have multiple partners, most are even in committed relationships. And not all sex addicts actually participate in sexual inter courses, they mostly fantasize. I still suggest getting medical help for their psychological problem, compulsive behavior connection w/ sex addiction.

    I can’t tell if Jihyun really loves Yohan for him and not his dick/body, but I only wish them the best. Falling in love fast astonishes me, sorry. Of course many people fall in love fast in reality as well.

    woonis July 11, 2021 2:57 am
    Hopefully not and yeah probably :/. And I also heard she becomes good friends with them in the raws(?). ZelAn

    I hope so.. I'm tired of lesbians always being made the villains

    ZelAn July 11, 2021 3:06 am
    I hope so.. I'm tired of lesbians always being made the villains woonis

    And it’s no ones fault if we find her annoying as hell, authors for some reason portrays all women as that type or the very annoying one, bitchy one, etc.

    CoyEci July 11, 2021 4:09 am
    Still need medical help for sex addictions, it can improve a healthy lifestyle too and decrease chances of infections, herpes, etc. Jihyun himself stated he can’t control it so that’s why I’m saying HE ne... ZelAn

    I feel like it’s not that he can’t control it but he’s been conditioned to believe that he can’t control it. And he does need help for that but like you stated, I’ve almost never seen BLs show characters seeking professional help for their mental issues.

    Yeah, we dated for only a month. But got a lot closer after breaking up. Complicated relationship.

    ZelAn July 11, 2021 4:28 am
    I feel like it’s not that he can’t control it but he’s been conditioned to believe that he can’t control it. And he does need help for that but like you stated, I’ve almost never seen BLs show charact... CoyEci

    Got closer after breaking up? I guess ya two were meant to be more like close friends then. Many people can misunderstand platonic friendship as love, not that I have any experience to say more as I am aromantic.

    And idk, cause he stated himself that he has the impulse to seek more sex. It can go out of control. I’m speaking of both reality and fiction, anyone with sex addiction in reality should go get help, fiction is fiction lmao.

    And yes exactly, many authors do not give no fucks for mental issues, showing resolutions for mental issues, nope. Many BLs are repeated plots with similar looking characters, cliche, etc.

    CoyEci July 11, 2021 2:29 pm
    Got closer after breaking up? I guess ya two were meant to be more like close friends then. Many people can misunderstand platonic friendship as love, not that I have any experience to say more as I am aromanti... ZelAn

    I don’t develop romantic feelings for any gender other than women but sexual attraction still exists. I broke it off because I realised he was having a hard time in the d/s part of our relationship (which we still have) because he realised I didn’t have feelings for him. He still acts as a father figure to my kid, we still go on dates and he stays the night on a daily basis which is why I say complicated lol. It’s just that there’s no expectation of loyalty or commitment, and he roots for me if I think of pursuing a relationship with someone else.

    BL is mostly fetishisation anyhow so my expectations are low. Rarely see mental issues being resolved by mental help, rape seems normalised, almost never do s&m BLs show how it should be (safety, safewords, making sure it’s consensual, aftercare, limits). Whenever I see an author ending the BL with a psychopath and the main character being in a romantic relationship, it’s a wtf moment for me *cough*If you hate me so*cough*

    ZelAn July 11, 2021 3:16 pm
    I don’t develop romantic feelings for any gender other than women but sexual attraction still exists. I broke it off because I realised he was having a hard time in the d/s part of our relationship (which we ... CoyEci

    Ah that is complicated, I see what you mean, it’s nice he’s there. For me even if I like someone a bit/interested in them, my interest/attraction dies easily so I have no hope for any relationships except casual ones or mainly friendships.
    It’s not too bad, more time for myself. I end up cutting off contacts after I meet people outside, when they text me or try to call, I do talk until I lose interest. I’m a douche yes. I think I just prefer and like being alone.

    I agree with everything you said about BL being mostly fetishized. Rape is indeed normalized and mental issues / help non-existing. When I said something similar to this, people would say it’s just fiction and fantasies. Well that’s some fucked up fantasies I must say, and I don’t bother w/ what they do, too lazy.

    Are you talking about the BL- If you hate me so? lmao I dropped that. The art is nice imo, but the plot is similar or more like the issues within the story.” SIGH”, that’s my response to those types of BLs.

    CoyEci July 11, 2021 4:10 pm
    Ah that is complicated, I see what you mean, it’s nice he’s there. For me even if I like someone a bit/interested in them, my interest/attraction dies easily so I have no hope for any relationships except c... ZelAn

    Friendships are nice, much less complicated than romantic relationships imo. I’m the opposite, I hate being alone. I love going out, socialising, etc. I usually can’t go after people that I do develop feelings for because they’re always the super nice type…and tend to be vanilla. Being a masochistic sub with a high sex drive means that I’ll prioritise a good sex life over love even if it’s really hard on me emotionally.

    Fiction and fantasies can be problematic. BL and GL itself is problematic in how it fetishises lgbt. Quite disturbing as it’s a mostly straight female audience that enjoys the not consensual relationships between gay/bi male characters depicted inBL. Think it’s similar to how it’s problematic that it is an audience of mostly straight men that fetishise wlw relationships in porn, erotica and in reality.

    Yep, the BL if you hate me so. I like the author’s other story (Love is an illusion) but if you hate me so was so bad. There’s so much rape and the uke suffers so much trauma.

    ZelAn July 11, 2021 4:54 pm
    Friendships are nice, much less complicated than romantic relationships imo. I’m the opposite, I hate being alone. I love going out, socialising, etc. I usually can’t go after people that I do develop feeli... CoyEci

    Yes friendships indeed are less complicated than romantic relationships. Damn this talk makes me sound depressing but I’m really not, just prefer peace quiet time with some tea and a novella. Aside from Misophobia, I have Misophonia (hatred of specific sounds), probably one of the main reasons why I like being alone.

    That’s good for you if that’s what you prioritize, and what do you mean by “even if it’s really hard on me emotionally”?

    Indeed, fictions and fantasies are both problematic. I definitely wouldn’t want to be in someone’s fantasies doing shit I’d never do. Though that’s just me, not sure about some others. And I barely find good BLs that actually portrays gay people realistically, there always has to be a love rival in fiction, love triangle or rape/assault as if every man wants MC.

    That’s how you can tell BL is hardcore fetishized. It’s normalized to the point I found it normal in fiction, disgusts me in reality.

    I agree, I also like the author’s other work; Love is an Illusion, art is pretty nice and plot is nice overall with minor flaws I think (I finished reading a while ago; don’t remember much). If you hate me so- major flaws. I don’t even remember what happened for the most part, does the Uke get raped by who a lot again?
    Don’t wanna re read it, scene gonna haunt me.

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