I dont respect hate. I never comment on unproblematic manhwas I dont like because I respect the fanbase. I'm not that entitled enough to think that my hate comment of a totally unproblematic manhwa should be entertained by the fans. If its not problematic and its not to my taste, I just leave it the fuck alone. Now I guess I should do the opposite, Since everyone love negative reviews now. I now regret the times where i should have just said something negative at every manga. all these critics just had to rain on everyone's parade. If you allow unneccessary bad reviews everywhere... Then Mangago would be a terrible place, because you know that almost all of the mangas here have something problematic about it, but do we complain? No. There's something called good outweigh the bad.
Seriously, just think, Is this manhwa filled with bad issues like rejucice or gender inequality or even romanticising abuse, or is it just boring for me and not my kind of jam. If its the latter, GTFO, its not for you, and its not for your subjective mind to decide whether its Bad or Good as a general term. Even if you want to leave a review, Dont make it like the Manhwa failed you, say that its not your kind of manhwa. How entitled must you be to say that the manhwa is objectively Trash, right infront of those who like it, and expect them to agree like its a universal thing.
even if i want to critique on something I would re read the parts again to clarify, instead of just basing it of whatever came out of my ass. Unlike Cumblaster reviewing this after only reading.. Once. Critics be acting like an artist's practicing work doesnt deserve the love they were never given from their moms.
Great... i respect you opinion but did you take into account the time period? Where women had no power or that most common folk people where not even educated?
kinda amazing how people intent on bullying an artwork and insult the fanbase gets all defensive when they get criticised instead. But lets just start a new slate with this. Which is to drown out everything. into the next page of comments.
If I could begin to be
Half of what you think of me
I could do about anything
I could even learn how to love
When I see the way you act
Wondering when I'm coming back
I could do about anything
I could even learn how to love like you
(Love like you)
I always thought I might be bad
Now I'm sure that it's true
'Cause I think you're so good
And I'm nothing like you
Look at you go
I just adore you
I wish that I knew
What makes you think I'm so special
If I could begin to do
Something that does right by you
I would do about anything
I would even learn how to love
When I see the way you look
Shaken by how long it took
I could do about anything
I could even learn how to love like you
Love like you
Love me like you
kinda amazing how people intent on bullying an artwork and insult the fanbase gets all defensive when they get criticised instead. But lets just start a new slate with this. Which is to drown out everything. into the next page of comments.
If I could begin to be
Half of what you think of me
I could do about anything
I could even learn how to love
When I see the way you act
Wondering when I'm coming back
I could do about anything
I could even learn how to love like you
(Love like you)
I always thought I might be bad
Now I'm sure that it's true
'Cause I think you're so good
And I'm nothing like you
Look at you go
I just adore you
I wish that I knew
What makes you think I'm so special
If I could begin to do
Something that does right by you
I would do about anything
I would even learn how to love
When I see the way you look
Shaken by how long it took
I could do about anything
I could even learn how to love like you
Love like you
Love me like you
Welcome to 2019 where feelings of nobodies on the internet matter more than the actual hard work that they are illegally reading it from. Good Lord. Just gave it a 5 stars cos this deserves to be a 9.3. If They say Im a King's daughter is a 9 pointer, there's no reason why this isnt a 9 pointer too. Common sense. People cant have practicing work now? its like complaining that a drawing that a 15 year old did her best is Not good because its nto the Mona Lisa. * intense face palm*
And these people who attack a hard work of an author cant stand criticism themselves even though its the Fuking comment section. if you put your thoughts here, you are subjecting it to everyone's opinions. You arent some president's daughter, or a princess, dont complain about what other thinks about your words when you literally caused war trying to garner support over hating this work. I'm sure you and your measly 9 supporters can take a hint to get out. :)
Someone gets it. Cant'take the fire? Dont start a fire
Best tree branch of the year.
Be like "surprise muthafucka" on that bitch Walter
Hell yeah!(づ￣ ³￣)づ
Hahaha
Yaoi, screwing race and culture one stereotype at a time. I cringe at the dark 'exotic' asshole man trope bringing in whatever culture they could find. This is literal description of an author just making things up along the way about the culture that the work is inspired from. Seriously, it's like, "oh that looks nice. Ok, imma just murder an actual culture by just making a story according to my Godamn fetish." And these kind of semes are always portrayed to be assholes with patronizing words that treat ppl like objects even when they have sex. Ppl please. No matter the story, it's weird to over exotify a country, the culture and the ppl. They are not objects.
To be fair, artist ps can draw what they want cos they are bound by their limited experiences of the world. But still is a little decency and respect too much to ask for? I wish there are more works that can be on the same level as ouji to kotori or higher and not this.
Yeah, it's a problem that Asian countries have. Because there is no diveristy in these countries, they don't understand racial/cultural issues and misrepresentation in entertainment. It's like the author of Ghost in the Shell. He/She really thinks there's no problem with Hollywood whitewashing the movie.
Racist portrayal of arab culture with the "assholes in the desert" stereotype. No consideration for the actual culture that it drew inspiration from. It just made up stuff as it goes based on a pre-existing biased of middle eastern countries as mean scary ppl who don't give a fuck about human rights. They portrayed the culture as a group of ppl who is just out to harass, enslave and fuck everybody without rhyme or reason or consideration of others. A little distasteful. The seme is always the domineering (almost committing a crime) asshole lord with awkward patronizing words that treats everyone like objects and the uke is the rather weak submissive one who (even if he is rejecting) gets tossed around like a rag doll on the seme's whims
Book is basically crap in a nutshell. When books about cultural themes start to multiply they usually turn out for the worst with the thick application of racially inappropriate assumptions with no attempt to showy at they actually showed true sincere interest and respect in learning and portraying said culture. If they're gonna half ass it, I'm wondering why they even bothered.
Show that*
sweetheart, if you prefere reality, try newspapers and not manga...
Don't bring up reality if you can't even handle a reality check. No nitpicking needed here when it's so obvious. If it sucks it sucks. If it's part of a series of bland borderline half assee works, i have to say it is. Not lock myself in total denial and fap. If you can't even rebuff that properly, then what have you been reading.
Mate if you know anything about the Middle East human rights doesn't exist there especially for gays and women. I can tell you right as an arab person this didn't feel racist at all - stereotypes are not racist.
Hahaha I love your comment
I'm from Egypt dude and I'm an Arab I have rights here even though I'm a women how were raised is mostly baised on our religion we have options like my dad asked if I would wear a hijab but I said no so he respected it. The manga is good most of it is fake but not all of it like the man is usually the dominant one in the relationship just clarifying ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I was born in Iraq during, I faced different circumstance 100% it was no safe there, glad I left
ignore the "during" that was a mistake
I'm glad your safe I'm so sorry you left Iraq my mom visited before the war happened she said its one of the most beautiful places she ever visited even if your a Muslim or Christian or whatever.I'll always be their if u want to ever talk. ヾ(☆▽☆)
Thanks man, my aunt visited Iraq in 2014 and she told me she felt extremely uncomfortable - Either way I'm not planning on ever visiting it again
you're so annoying
You're so annoying how might i ask
lol love yoir comment. I agree. xD
Sorry to say that but in some Arabic country we do have no right as women or gay no one sport us not the law not the culture and not even the people do you know that you consider as Minor for your whole damn life just because you're a woman?! and getting executed for being gay? So what were saying for human rights love? i curse my life everyday for being born in Saudi Arabia i have no life and right here
are you shitting me???? don not ever compared islam's law with the modern westerner's law and their human rights condition (i talk about the gay problem), when you look back, even the westerner countries had a death penalty for homosexuality before and they'd done it in a more crueler way than in arab (search it on google), they just re-arrange the law caused the human rights movement... anyway are you really from arab??? cause if you are an arabic woman you probably understand about this issues very CLEARLY and only the westerner people who claimed that no woman in arab have their rights (which is the biggest BS ever!!!) caused they even know what they're talking
Why are you comparing laws from 200 years ago as defense of gay people being murdered by the state or society? In most "western" countries there are strict equality laws and acceptance of such rights. In a lot of Arab countries women still don't have equal rights. Nor do women or men who are gay or bisexual. In most western countries a gay couple can walk down the street hand in hand, and no one will care, a woman can walk alone without drawing scorn or being scared, can this be said of most arab countres now?
Yaoi isn't supposed to make sense but this is horrifying in more ways than one.
Racist portrayal of arab culture with the "assholes in the desert" stereotype. No consideration for the actual culture that it drew inspiration from. It just made up stuff as it goes based on a pre-existing biased of middle eastern countries as mean scary ppl who don't give a fuck about human rights and have strange strict rituals or tradition that will cause the main character to be arrested. Also, who the fuck don't know what's a harem and what's with all the unnecessary ceremony about it? They portrayed the culture as a group of ppl who is just out to enslave and fuck everybody without rhyme or reason or consideration of the victim.
Violent And being an asshole = love. He did unspeakable things and all that shit and the uke (like all stereotypical ukes) will at the end go... Actually I love u after all! Um no? That's called Stockholm syndrome. You need you head and quite possibly your ass checked. Seme is always this domineering asshole who don't give a shit and the uke is always the wide eyed cutesy doll like figure that always takes the seme's shit 'unconditionally' cos LUV?! Seriously. This is another case of "rape = love" bullshit where clearly rape is not given the gravity it needs. It is so interchangeable as a subject it's literally like the author just threw it in for the plot to move along cos they don't want to use their brain to think of something else. You cannot have the story this way and then slap the "I RAPED U AND NOW WE IN LUUUVVV" caveman logic. These works are part of a problem of a flood of yaoi perpetuating, institutionalising and normalizing the rather disturbing message that "so long as you put a dick in the person, everything will be alright romantically".
To be fair it could be for the fueling of rape fantasy in women and it's true that 50% of women have rape fantasy which is normal. However that doesn't mean that we should lie on our backs like babies and accept whatever that is spoon fed to us. Granted that every author has the rights to write whatever they want because they are coloured and influenced by their own experiences. However I believe that as readers we should take up our right and responsibility in how we read these mangas. Some may like it, and it's ok. But for me I'd like to call out this manga, discuss its flaws and in conclusion deem it disturbing, racist and extremely ignorant.
Thank you
It's like you've never read yaoi. This "logic" is very, VERY common, and do you always go around and tell people that you don't and shouldn't accept that? If that's so, then please leave the yaoi community as everyone here knows that it is 100% pure fiction. We have brains, there's a reason why it's 18+.
didn't know what gets me wet is supposed to be run through your morals scan.
My bad. I'll ask for your consent next time. -_________-
PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THE SARCASM
i was just thinking the same, i was hoping someone would save him and he'd fall in love with his saviour, but no Stockholm syndrome again -_-
you forgot what yaoi means, or do you even know what yaoi actually even means?
YAma nashi (Without climax)
Ochi nashi (Without conclusion)
Imi nashi (Without content)
Basically it's fictional no sense porn just like hentai.
You know what? Instead of crying your ass out ranting here you idiot, Why don't you send that to the mangaka directly so she would know instead of complaining here pointlessly
everyone replying to OP sounds like rape apologists who don't wanna think about how bad the content their reading actually is, also just because you say yaoi is suppose to be without content doesn't mean it can be forgiven for making stereotypical "brown people are savage and their government is tyrannical killers" characters who also rape without remorse, aint no "yaoi community" its just women who don't like being kink shamed and told why they should think about what the creator has actually written instead of how many times they can masturbate to it. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
I dont really give shit about the rape thing its yaoi it gives spice to the story whether you like it or not and also the fact that they arab just gives it a new flavor u know ╮(￣▽￣)╭ besides most yaoi has rape contents and they arnt neccessarily arab so i dont see racism here, honestly what really gets me is SEX IN THE SAND ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ i mean seriously that is what dont make sense even in the yaoi universe ┑(￣Д ￣)┍ i just cant imagine the sand not getting in the uke's with all that wind blowing i literally grabbed my own ass imagining it Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
I hope you get raped in the sand by arabs to spice up your life my guy
YOU! I like your meaning of Yaoi
DAMN WELL SAID DUDE
...wow. checked this thread only to see people are fucked up. *acts shocked*
It's good to reflect on a work and see how it reflects the society we live in, or what it says about the author. Doesn't mean we need to put it through a moral scan, just that we need to understand intent and portrayal. I don't agree with everything the OP has said, but I think they are making a valid point, however at the same time wishing for someone to get raped "by Arabs" is a lot more hardcore than some idiot who goes "I dont care about rape in fiction etc etc"
Frankly, I care a lot about rape in fiction, because it gets me off, and I take a mixed stand on it, but rape apologist crap is still interesting to look into and examine, why do women write these kinds of rape tropes in their work? Why are we exoticising Arab men? Why is that different from when a mangaka exoticises a European? What are the power dynamics? How is these men's homosexuality portrayed? etc etc
Here is a nice quote from the Dark Mother herself:
“It's both possible, and even necessary, to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects.”
https://www.wattpad.com/story/77399352-beautiful-inside-my-head-forever-caste-heaven
found a promising fanfic while scrolling through Wattpad. It might satisfy me until the next update!
If the author of this is here, I wanna tell them this is great and they should continue it. :3
Cool title
I've read it. The author posted the link here,I liked the story ((:
I just read it just now. The opening is great. Need more Sex tho XD
Omg, I was going to sleep feeling empty from having no caste heaven updates. But chapter 4 of the fan fic just came out xD. It was awesome and omg (0/////0).
Thank you so much for reading my work! XD
my word, my crime of being online too soon has made 2Seung block me and think I know bongo cat. I just saw her threads and thought Seung is going too far. I dont even know why they so obsessed with the isekai villain comment made by bongo cat. It was literally just a metaphor for being annoying with harassment. At this rate I am suspecting that Seung is just doing this to bury the anon comments she added as Cry Sweetie and passerby, to claim that MotherRussia is BongoCat. I cannot even comment my opinion or else this crazy chick thinks Im the same even though my account has been here for years. even tho she literally blocked me and created a new account, friendo2. Honestly. Honestle! can you all just stop polluting the comment section. Its even worse than the translators. You all fight like kindergartners!
you should calm down. from what i've been reading this seems to just be between the translators. you are being very angry and from what i read of the topics that motherussia posted, 2seung doesn't seem to be doing anything that wrong for you all to suddenly accuse them of being every anonymous person in the discussion page? you should just drop the topic and be mature.
it's kinda suspicious that you and motherussia happen to have the same links on hand? i hope you don't get me wrong but you and motherussia type very similarly. it's easy for me to tell since i majored in english linguistics. it'll be better if you all simply don't continue this war and accuse others. let's be nice! (:
Was I the only one that read mother russias comment. OMG, I Cannot anymore... Seriously this shit frustrates me. I copy and pasted their shit. Of course I have that!
i did, i read it. there was no "roasting" or bullying. they were having an argument. one person went a bit too far when they compared him/herself to the protagonist of a manhua and that 2seung is the villain. 2seung told them to calm down and ignored them afterwards. it was someone else who taunted bongcat. i don't see what you and your friend are seeing. that's kinda why you and motherussia seem suspicious. why don't we cool down and let go of the topic?
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/5135408/?page=1
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/5135408/?page=2
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/5134153/
The earliest thing where we debated and they get triggered that I did not back down. They were already harassing others by this time.
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/5143096/
This is them trying to be smug about the troll font translator.
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/5143366/
This is Seungs own comment, lowkey shading that it was Claude4ever that did the troll scans, even tho it really doesnt make sense
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/5143151/
Leading to me snapping politely, to which they exaggerated to feel offended. I really Cannot stand it anymore. They make it sound like it was a recent trend whee I was hating on them for being opinionated. but they have been doing this again and again. And I will just leave everyone to be the judge before the user Annonymous starts another fake laugh and making shit memes.
I read these from BongoCat. This is depressing.
uhm......... do we need to be fighting over this kind of stuff......
i'm afraid to say your claims all seem very exaggerated. bongcat seems to be the first to get mad and threatens to block somebody? i've read through the discussion page and have not seen many replies from 2seung. i don't see them shading anybody as well. they asked a question. i cannot find what anywhere that bongcat posted this list publicly. can you screenshot when bongcat sent you this?
Hey, just got here. I have never threatened to block someone. It was another person <I think it is the OC of that comment> that was threatening to block poseidon and 2seung and they acted like it was me who threatened to block them. And this is my reply from yesterday that MotherRussia sent to everyone.
You know what, you're completely right. They're so coordinated but I can't find aNYWHERE in the comments that they told each other about that whole list of links they keep spamming. Hello Bitches, MotherRussia, and since you're here, BongoCat, post the damn screenshot.