So please correct me if I come across as such... But Kou-kun being called they instead would be detrimental to the importances of pronouns. But I do know that sometime Japanese doesn't use pronouns when discussing a topic if it is obvious, or they have neutral terms.
And the importance of outward appearance is scary. So maybe if Kou-kun would experiment with it it could help with the anxiety she** is facing. I wouldn't want to insult her and say she looks dull but I know when I enter a manic low I dress dully to not draw attention to myself and my problems-- if that makes sense.
** I used she because Kou-kun did state her sex earlier but didn't state her pronouns. But if that is wrong please correct me on my mistake. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Are you talking about how people call her “-kun” since she looks and dresses like a male? If so, that is actually pretty common.
The "-kun" when addressing females, commonly used by certain professions as a general honorific for their subordinates and/or equals that shows a bit more respect than just -san or -chan. "-kun" includes the subordinate as a member of you peer group which is why in the particular instance it can be more respectful than "-san" or “-chan”. You could see that Kou-kun is really good at games and such, so that is one way you could see her as respectable. In other words, when addressing a female as “-kun”, it means you’re close friends, family member or you respect that person.
You would generally see this in academics or politics. (￣∇￣")
...if that’s what you’re confused about- Σ( ￣□￣||)
Uhhhh, yes and no. Thank you for clarifying the "-kun" part. But I was also wondering if it would be wrong to call Kou-kun they instead of she, if Kou-kun didn't identify as they. I feel as though the raws would tell us the pronouns, possibly.
Sir, what right do you have to call yourself his dad? And to question his lifestyle and wishes? You don't have shit because you ain't done shit. You don't just walk into someone's life thinking you can just make their decisions just because they are your child by blood. You are his father, you are not his Dad. Those are two different titles(at least in my book). ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
PREACHHH
This might be wrong to do so but I think i came to a conclusion about bullying in Northeast Asia (ie China, Japan and S.Korea). They just love it, the bullying that occur in almost every story I have read from these countries are so extreme. And, yes, I know they are dramatic for the story but even the amount of shit that happens seems to be popular with the people there.
In my personal experience in the US highschool system( I have gone to 4 in 4 years) bullying is not nearly as aggressive, and even if in artistic pieces they aren't as brutally depicted as they are in stories like these.
Anything that revolves around people being lower than them seems very popular. Whether through gossip, ostrasizing, or outright bullying they just eat it up.
I came to this conclusion due to the wide assortment of manga/manwhas I have read. They all show similar patterns. And suicide is taken lighter than here in the US, at least in my experience. But imma continue to read some stuff that I like. But probably not this one, its getting kinda annoying.(●￣(ｴ)￣●)
I think your right because the northeast asian countries have such high schooling expectations and dont really care so much on mental health they react badly to these events and the bullying is proubly horrible in those country's and they have a high suicide rate do to it all I believe the bullying is due to people not able to break free from their stressful school life and understand themselves so they take it out on others.
American bullying is mellow though it usually only a bit of gossip and than it comes to physical fights and its usually over after a fight but not many people care to much about spreading rumors through my experience they could careless unless its actually become a major concern or it concerns themselves.
School and stress is also one of the reason but the number 1 MAJOR reason is STATUS...rich kids doesn’t matter male or female..some have nasty personality and what do you know..to boot their disgust behavior they are rich too...they like to bully the weak and this just repeat ..if you think you’re better than me..then I get bully sort of thing...it all comes back to the gap between the rich and the poor ..the inequality in regards to wealth in those countries as well as strict respect and high expectation that got these children corrupted...but then again bully will always be a bully despite their status and values
Yeah in the USA bullying is a thing but it doesn’t really occur as much in places with minorities, just mainly white areas. I’m a Latina and we don’t really bully we fight if we have an issue and get it over with yk. Like if somebody stole my bf or sum girl said something about me. And yeah sometimes let’s say girl A wins and she’ll for ever boast about it, but it’s not bullying bcs girl B would just probably fight her again or both would move on with their life after the first right. But I do see these coming plots with bullying in mangas being super severe and I just be like bro if it was me or any of my minorities friends we would have just beat they ass and moved on period.
Right!! I'm black and the way my mom raised me was "don't start the fight, but finish it". I just sit back and wonder why in the hell are they sitting back and taking it. But one of the comments above did talk about status. Status hasn't really meant anything to me, sure your parents make/have more money but that ain't stopping nothing.
Exactly I think it’s more about culture yk because yeah status does count but for example my home country is Dominican Republic, and the rich kids never associate with the poor obviously since there’s not really a middle class. But when the poor kids do go to college their not bullied they get discriminated and just have less power because they are poor but after they graduate it becomes sorta equal ground. So I guess that’s what they mean by status having to do with bullying, but nobody where I’m from would bully you based on status and if anybody had a problem they just fought it out but if it did get serious it wouldn’t be bullying it would be full on neighborhood fights for example gang violence yk. It’s all about culture because minorities all sorta have the same status, we are poor lower class, why would be bully each other? We just fight and move on with life we got too many problems to be being bullied. I think that’s something that’s happens to kids that are in middle class or upper class since they have all basic needs etc. But I agree I just be like yo fight that bitch if she slap you! Like grab anything and hit her even if you get beat tf up! What she gon do kill you! And even if she did at least you fought back yk but I understand that the asian culture is different from the Latin culture and black etc.
I mean you can talk about yourself but you can’t compare them...it is also because of the culture too but the real reason is just that their personality is actually like that too...all I can say is that manhwa/manhua stories that portrayed bully may be a bit exaggerated here but it does hold some truth of the real world..especially those part where..they bully you and “IF” you do fight back it won’t end at you only..your whole family end up with it..depend how superior they are to you..your whole family can get ruin...that’s why it’s not that “they” can’t fight back..it’s that they “know” better than to fight back cus they not only think about themselves but their family too...and what do you know when your parents actually got force to apologize despite knowing that it’s not your fault...idk if it sound too cliche but it does happen in country like China and Korea ...
Also in the US..they can bully you like an ass but they can’t do shet to ur family and that’s why you never thought about it...but it’s very very different in Asia country..Japan is a bit different tho
Yeah I definitely get your point, i wasn’t trying to compare it, I was explaining how its different and how we view it. I totally agree too it’s about personally a little too cause some people aren’t as bold and their personality is not a fight back type. But I don’t really know how to solve the issue with bullying in places like Asia where it’s something so normalized other than them just changing their culture which is something that’s not gonna happen yk. But it is kind of annoying seeing soo much of it in mangas be so over exaggerated so that’s why I sometimes think things like just fight back! Not as like an insult or trying to be offensive but personally if people from my culture ever went to Asia and were in high school they would not let it be and would fight back because of being from a culture where when you are operases you fight to the death kind of thing, is what I meant. You can even look up Dominican history when they were colonized they fought back with machetes no matter if they died and got their land back etc, to prove my point that the culture is just like and that’s why I also think like that not trying to say anything offensive.
Oh no I got you lol but I was just stating it about comparing...and yes culture play big role in it. But the frustration part is actually how other people can manipulate others to bully u too u know. Like how that one person don’t like you but his whole gang and all the other people that want to suck up to him or like him will also make u their target lol is just really messed up but I gotta say they can’t do nothing about it unless they change the system and the way they think (be more open minded)...this change it’s actually for the older generation to change bcus they have set this example which is not a healthy one to the youngster...
But bro you good...I’m just stating/commenting my opinion ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Ohhh ok ok got it! Yeah it’s gonna be hard for them to change their culture it’s gonna be up to the younger generations to teach their children different and hope for a better future!
I was very excited to delve deeper into this one but unfortunately the potential it had is now gone. I find the twins very contradictory, and not in a good way. I mean no disrespect if you actually like them and this story, but it just doesn't make sense.
At this point the reincarnation aspect isn't explored and elaborated upon. I feel as though it is just a plot device to make them a little more intelligent or emotionally aware of themselves. But even there it falls short. Yes, we don't know their past life- because it has not been fleshed out- so they could've had a shit life then too. But if they did have a shit past life they could at least use their experience to build themselves up.
Many of the comments are mad at the King for not wanting them but would you want to be in his situation? He was bound by a spell type thing and was forced to have children from a woman he didn't love and was dangling his life in front of his face. The King has more to live for than just his own life, but for his 3 sons and a whole kingdom. I think he had to distance himself. But he is trying to open up now, so...
Im taking in mind that they are victims of child abuse, why don't they trust their father. The cant trust their father but they can trust some random man and his child. Why? Because they are nice to them? Or because Arien fancy this child(that in and of itself is odd because they are about 17 mentally)? In my own experience with childhood abuse, trust isn't something that you selectively give. If trust and betrayal is big to them they wouldn't believe in anyone but themselves.
Like I said earlier im gonna drop this, I might come back to it once their are more chapters, but until then I hope you guys enjoy. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
They are even older, with their past and current lives they are already 23 inside, it’s just absurd, the author doesn’t know how to handle that plot, they should have just being kids to begin with (with no past life) and then their actions would have made so much more sense, the reincarnation plot is not being used anyway, so what was the point? To just follow the reincarnation trend because it's popular now so that author wanted to attract that readers?
If you are going to add something to the story at least commit to it, if don’t, than please, just don’t use it ;;;;;
This story had a lot pf potential, maybe that’s why I’m so disappointed now
Fully agree! Evry statement is on point
I find it weird that in reincarnation manga/manwha if they can't conceive they automatically think it their (the woman's) fault. They never stop to think it could be the men's problem. And knowing that they come from modern times makes it even weirder that they never consider the possibilities. But I digress ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Actually, even in modern times not being able to get pregnant is ofter perceived as the women’s fault instead of the man’s. A lot of people are still uneducated about the intricacies surrounding pregnancies and how the fact that it takes 2 to make a baby
Yea that's true. We should really fix this stigma. It's a very damaging thing to assume.
Countless of women (and men) are working to erase this kind of thinking but thousands of years or partriarchy and Deeply rooted misogynism is hard to remove
"She doesn't know her place!!"
Heffer, her place is the Duke's fiance. Her role is not predetermined by anyone but the people involved.
I've just reread this and so much could of been avoided if communication was involved. I remember hating Hyesung, but I read this again trying to think more from his perspective. Though I wouldn't have done what he did, I can understand some of his actions.
Heesoo gets on my nerves though. I think he had good intentions but I feel like he made some of the problems that the main characters had worse.
But I still love this manhwa and i still read through it. What can i say (￣ε(#￣)Σ
**nods head furiously**
I agree with ur comment so damn much.. Like I felt the author tried to make heesoo and hyesung relatable.. Like people having second thoughts.. Etc.. But then we're plainly childish.. There was no communication... Hyesung never even apologized properly.. He had no character development at all... He was always portrayed as the sex fiend.. Like how can u not care ....the plot was good but it could have been so much better if the character dev was good.. But it was really bad
I understand that they are married an all but Sooha really only asked so much from him. He really can't understand what she is going through because he grew up with a family who loved and supported one another.
His excuse to meet with her is to get to know his mother in law, but at this point she is a stranger to Sooha so she is a stranger in general.
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Tristan is very irrational and deluded. It is very apparent not only with his drive for being on top no matter what method he uses but throughout this chapter he outright contradicted himself, within 3 panels. He said first Ivona has nothing, then says she has everything. Like, what?!! Which one is it baby? You can't have both at the same time-- logically. （￣へ￣）
Right? And one previous chapter was like him pretty much talking about how he is just using/manipulating Gaspal or something and now it’s a true love he had for him??? Tristan and Gaspal are garbaaaaaaage.