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Nooooooo~~~ Not that I've seen of

i see insults arriving to this poor person in 5...4....3...2...1...0 minutes
anyway to clear your doubts: in a conventional yaoi stockholm syndrome is love, so the answer would be yes.

the actual condition relates to when the captive feels close to the person holding them. It is called that bec. it happened in a bank heist in Sweden. If Takaba felt like that ,he would not have spent so much of his time running from Asami afiter. If you remember. he refuses to move in with him even when he saves him the first time from Feilong. after the DYD disc incident. Asami offers him an apartment, he still refuses.He remains his own. When they returned from Hong Kong, Asami took his photo equip. It was not until the stalker incident and Ai's fans that he winds up living in Asami's penthouse. Up until then he was staying with Kou(?). Asami had to chase him down and he did not go easily. He only move in on his terms paying rent and doing chores. So If that sounds like S. syndrome? the captive has sympathy for the person. Some of the people in the bank helped the robbers escape. Takaba did not come back from Hong Hong meek or pliant. but that is just how I see him. Your question did not offend. Sorry if my reponse did.

THUMBS UP.

O nanosec. where is hater? I see no one.

When did he pay the rent? If he pays the rent, he doesn't have to do anything extra. Http://iweb2.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/37/21dcfbf5dd1336aeaa76cf995110f540.jpeg

Aki was attracted to Asami, he wanted to get the love of Asami, he just won't admit it, pretend not to care about, because he did not want to admit their own wishful thinking, he understands that Asami is not in love with him, Asami just put him as prey.
Aki needs to clear his inner confusion. He needs to wake up.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/v09/c054/pg-5/
Perhaps this picture of Aki's monologue can give you tips
Translation:
But before I wake up
The body ...and mind
began to desire him.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v03/c009/4/

i think you put the wrong picture, fellow. but i agree with you with the poor victim needs to wake up.

I think your observations are a bit off. Asami clearly shows hes the one who has stronger feelings for Akihito and wants to have him by his side, but will willingly separate him from the dangers of his underground world. Aki was in denial for a long time about his feelings towards Asami and the position he plays in his life, but we have established a lot of this is because there's a lack of communication between them. They shut each other out because it's a defense mechanism. but now Aki knows that he truly wants to be by Asami's side which has been obvious since Vol8. He wants to be "Asami's eyes and watch his back" http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b3XF2U0SjJY/V-8jP-3CqwI/AAAAAAAT6jo/JiVQw-NgW8A/w1600/1.jpg Aki wants to protect him from bad things and wants to help in any way he can, even if it's dangerous for him. Their relationship has grown a lot more than people may notice.

Nope, I don't think so. Because Akihito isn't a real person (therefore any psychological characteristics or conditions are solely created by sensei) - meaning; she and her editors wouldn't create a "love story" based on something so disturbing and sad like Stockholm Syndrome and expect it to sell. That and the fact that the condition itself isn't quite fitting to the circumstances in this instance anyway.

If you have read real life examples, like the book written by abduction victim Natascha Kampusch for example, it's actually not something any of us would want to see any character experiencing I'm sure, because instead of the enjoyment Akihito clearly gets out of the relationship, we would be seeing Akihito in a completely different dynamic - and the dynamic of his and Asami's relationship would be completely different to how we see it too.

Rather - this set up to a relationship e.g. rape as a courting device, is one of the oldest tricks in the Yaoi book. It is so common in Yaoi that it's actually completely cliche by now and I totally hate it tbh. Akihito was clearly drawn to Asami and no did not have the disgust, repulsion and fear that a rape victim would most likely have toward their captor - rather, he brushed it off like he does with most things and like most characters do in yaoi that are set up in this way - like Hidouku Shinaide for example…………….

Basically I am saying that there is no particularly rich, realistic of deep psychology or even thought of psychology going into this manga - like most - rather it is supposed to be a somewhat action fuelled, frivolous and enjoyable romantic (gay) porn story…..

True

True. Takaba came to the revelation in the warehouse. while being held, he was part of Asami's private life. He had nothing to prove at all. He belonged at Asami's side.

It is all part of "growing" the story, plotting. showing Takaba to be an independent person, who will not set back and let Asami just take care of him.

Asami never made it clear that he was in love with Aki
He made Aki stay with him for another reason,
But you think Aki is worthless to Asami, so it's love...

There's the easiest way to prove it,
I suggest you go to Twitter and ask the author directly.

Erm....I REALLY don't think you understand the manga at all *sigh....*....not even going to bother reasoning with stupid here #－.－)

you must be a delusional AxF fan right?????

I dont think yamane sensei will ever answer to that question, just for the love of sales, i think she'll prefer to keep any ambiguous responce to herself
i do think asami is keeping takaba near him for another reason, but i still think he loves Takaba in the debasing meaning he attributes to the word love (a relationship between unequal partners), feel sad for Takaba and his romanticized stockholm syndrome

I expected someone telling the person "don't like, don't read"

At least you realize that both are possible, and that's enough for her.

Asami has a mono, or so I'm told, in the yet to to translated to Eng. version Blue flame . Showing his feelings abt. Takaba. In short he says something abt. needing him. Reg. story evidence. Gunshots in his leg trying to protect TaKaba. Going to Hong Kong to get him back and giving up the deed to Feilong. What did Asami gain back? money no nothing but Takaba. Taking down the stalker, bec. he was in Takaba's way not in Asami's way. Letting Takaba get away with betraying him to Feilong to save his friends and letting him live.(chap. before he gets shot trying to save him from being taken by Fei to Hong Kong). He forgives him. Why does Asami forgive Takaba? bec. he is head over heals in love with him. He does not have to say it He shows it in his actions. When he leaves him at the temple and asks him to stay put For him , for a man like Asami, who has always been the protector, Takaba saying yes, seemed like a sign of true trust to me. jusy my OP.

it allows her to play with the plot in a better and more interesting way. if it sells, it sells, and i think it's enough for her and the publisher of the magazine

All good examples…I think ppl are just trying to stir the pot here.

1 The west is not her prim. target aud. How do you know that who she is writng for does not like bieng so this called "unequal" status. You description is a your value call. between unequal partners From the outside is what most people look like to outsiders. There is no such thing as equality in a real relationship it always sifts. It is organic and should move when the need arises. It is total romantic fluff.

I have no time to revise you one by one...
Say it first. Do you mean if Asami doesn't give up the deed to FeiLong, it means Aki isn't important to him?
Are you sure you know who the deed belongs to?
Asami never intended to take away FeiLong's deed. You don't even know why Yoh stole FeiLong's deed.

Your understanding is a mess.

you're absolutely right about that.

it's a debasing "romantic" story between Takaba and Asami, Asami doesnt give a f about Takaba's job and opinions. what a good love story, eh? And on the boat he exchanged a deed (so money, something he has a lot and can "sacrifice") to save "his precious posession" (an object not a lover). He started having feels for Takaba but still in the condescending way a master do to his "pretty little lover", a debasing way of love. so sad for Takaba.

i read those summaries and still i didnt have a clear idea of asami's feelings. pretty weird, and how he was thinking of FeiLong in the middle of sex. to have a better idea should wait for a complete translation of the Blue Flames

you read the summaries but obviously understood nothing so why bother still making an argument?

To each his own. Asami's motives clear as a bell. You are dying to drag Feilong into this even as a subjective text bec.. I don't think you can help yourself. I don't know why people won't let the character grow up , he has in the manga. He long ago got over any lingering feelings for Asami . Otherwise he could not have any type of friendship (implied texting) with Takaba. How could he run his group and still be pinning over Asami?, he has grown and is taking care of Tao and his own life. Their relationship is one of rivals and a shared regard for Takaba. They would help each other, when it helped the other person. A mutual self help group against shared foes. A complete translation of Blue Flame is not going to change the outcome. The character of Feilong looks to be quite happy now.

and who was talking about FeiLong? i wrote only that it looked weird to think of him in the middle of sex. i had also the idea Asami was talking of a third person we still dont know while thinking "this time i have to tie him to me" ╮(￣▽￣)╭

LOL??? A mystery 3rd person now?? Wtf? your delusions are frickin ridiculous (and funny). the TRUTH is that its Asami x Aki, now and forever. Get over it.

i had the right to my own ideas. anyway, who was talking with you? i was answering to reality bites here. dont you have anything else to do than jump over a person with diferent opinions?

my favorite character is Feilong. But I've always been clear that Asami loves Takaba. It's as clear as the sun. There are no doubts. yamane wrote it in an interview: she said that Asami wanted friendship from Feilong. Friendship. just friendship. Sometimes I think people look good Asami and Feilong just because they are beautiful. I do not understand.

This is a case of not seeing the forest for the trees... ;)

YA has already answered the question concerning how they felt about each other in her After Notes in one of the volumes (I believe it was volume that concluded Naked Truth). It was made clear when Asami and Akihito reunited after Akihito's abduction.

She's also answered the question (in an interview) concerning Asami and Fei Long's feelings toward each other. Asami does not have romantic feeling toward Fei Long, while Fei Long certainly did.

I think this new arc will prove that Fei Long has wisely moved past it. Perhaps they will develop the "camaraderie" relationship that Asami was seeking in the beginning.

you are right. Sensei has already clarified everything. Asami also in FNS. Feilong also (I would like to remember that Fei and Yoh live an intense night of love)

You're forgetting something important; the meaning Asami gives to the word "camaraderie" (with kisses and handjobs included.......so friends with benefits)
Anyway, sometimes sensei gives interviews with mixed signals, I remember the all "Mikhail will never reappear in the storyline"

Yes, their night of sex was really intense, I'm still shivering in delight remembering it. (▰˘◡˘▰)

You know that's what not "camaraderie" meant. I won't argue that Asami screwed up and gave a very confused Fei Long mixed signals. Even he admitted he screwed up. Since that's 7 or 8 years in the past now, I consider it a thing of no importance (speaking for myself).

I missed the interview where Yamane-sensei said "Mikhail will never reappear..." (I've probably missed many). Do you have a link?

I remember what I mentioned from the livejournal community, not exactly when and where

Her answer is not what you understand.You can send her your understanding.See if she'll admit that she said it.

Thanks... I'll ping Mikhail's biggest fan and she if she can direct me. If anyone can remember it, it'll be her.

the question is clear. The answer is clear and you know it well. I make these clarifications to help people who recently read Finder. Asami does not like Fei. If Fei fans say it, you can believe it!

Asami doesnt love Fei but anyway he'll jump on him for sex 'cause the attraction is undeniable and Asami ALWAYS liked Fei

Asami giving Fei handjobs and kisses and licks arent mixed signals. It may not be love but it signals something......heh heh heh

Asami has tendency to come up with over-the-top solutions for simple problems (the kiss and handjob were done to distract Fei Long). Remember his solution to a locked bedroom door? For him, the end justifies the means.

He probably uses a handgun to shoot cockroaches as well. I wouldn't blame him if he did.

So why don't you dare to ask the author?
See if she can praise your ability to understand.

Aki will explain herself.
" Asami never loved me. He loved Feilong."

So aki is like a rejected woman lover now ¿?

Asami has never acknowledged his identity.
Aki has always thought that Asami did not love him, but as long as Asami did not rush him away, he wanted to stay with Asami.
He needs courage to decide to leave,
Stop indulging in sex without love.

http://iweb2.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/44/eee7321b228e7392a3492d808abd5332.jpeg
http://iweb2.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/45/684e9ff72f26b593a8f1ae53a2bdbbd4.jpeg
http://iweb2.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/44/817edc0a62b65c4790195203c6d40c89.jpeg

"Stop indulging in sex without love." - Why the heck would you want to do that, imagine all the great yaoi we'd be without! The finder series for one ; ) right?

Asami? Over the top on some things but that doesnt quite fit the author's character she is trying to convey though.
Calm cool collected Leo(me too lol) Millionaire who deals arms/narcotics and flit about the underworld sharp eyed and observant also a powerful underworld figure.

He seems more laid back(on guard) but scheming intelligent and I know that leos are known to be dramatic (or full of drama depending on who you ask lol)....but being an underground crime lord by night and business man by day would require more slick than over the top. You do have a point I just thought of-- he can be over the top when it comes to Tabaka in certain situations)
That just ma thoughts.....

"Asami giving Aki handjobs and kisses and licks arent mixed signals. Although it is not love but it signals something......"

He treats Fei and Aki differently.
He treats Aki as you say"Asami has tendency to come up with over-the-top solutions for simple problems. Remember his solution to a locked bedroom door? For him, the end justifies the means."
His kiss to Fei was due to love. But at the wrong time, they tried to stay awake, Fei just want to go home to see father didn't have time to think about anything else, Asami also chose to restrain himself, he needs to keep rational to face their crisis.

So the faced their crisis, Asami chose to retrain himself. he had 7 years. Long before he met Takaba. Asami could have chosen to get on his plane gone to Hong Kong and ......... But he did not. He made a choice . Was the kiss to Fei an ends to a means and not love?

the faced their crisis:The crisis FeiLong faced
So he kept following Fei to protect Fei, but he didn't expect anything to happen after that. Asami chose to leave because he had no choice. The crisis Fei faced was not over. He could not tell Fei all the truth. He sent Yoh to continue to protect FeiLong.


FeiLong never even thought that he would be with a man, and how could he think he would fall in love with a man? He was not sure why Asami kissed him. Asami felt that FeiLong had never thought of accepting himself. They never know each other's minds. Asami has always loved Fei. He never stops looking at Fei(Through Yoh), he misses Fei all the time. His endless waiting and longing drives him crazy. when he saw tears and saw similar scenes, he thought of Fei. Until FeiLong reappeared, he could no longer control himself, he found that Fei and Aki had sex...So he did a crazy thing. That's why he chose Aki.
He could no longer restrain himself.

1. If Asami misses Feilong so much , he would have acted upon it. long before Takaba entered his life. Nothing would have stopped him from getting to him. He chose Takaba bec. simply put, he wants/wanted him.

I noticed that Asami seemed become crueler after all what happened in Hong Kong with Fei during the HL thing. Not only Asami, also Fei, I think something really bad happened to Asami after he left HK the first time.

How do you know he didn't act? In the second chapter of the story, FeiLong's appearance is not accidental; Asami has never dared to face FeiLong because he knows the truth of the past. This prevented him from taking the initiative to find FeiLong. But it can't stop him wanting to see FeiLong. It was Aki who made Asami an opportunity to see Fei. Their meeting was no accident.
You don't understand why Asami doesn't explain the truth to Feilong.
The truth of the past is not the only reason to stop them together.
First, he didn't think Fei fell in love with him and would accept him.
He thought that Feilong would not want to know the truth, and silence was the only option he could make.
He never got the confidence to get Fei's love.
Until he thinks FeiLong doesn't care about the truth of the past.
Nothing would have stopped him from getting to him. So he needs Aki to help him do some of it.

Yeah, it was seven years ago in Hongkong that made Asami what he is today.
FeiLong thought Asami failed to live up to his trust. Asami is a sham to him, all for money.
Now FeiLong is only willing to believe in simple children, because there is no money relationship.

Asami wanted FeiLong to trust him, not simply to explain how much I love you. He has been quietly taking action. Someday you'll know.

All of this happened in the past and it no longer matters. Asami did not love him as a lover. Feilong got over his love/hate and moved on. This is the present story. Takaba and Feilong text each other. Asami and Feilong tolerate each other.

am ı the onl one think nii-chan's lover is not the mom guy ı mean our little uke got the wrong idea thatt's my idea of course ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Yes I kind of think and hope so too

beta can also have a kid right?
now you got me all confused.

Ya they can only alpha cannot

It really depends on the author. Some can have male and female betas have children, some authors choose only female betas to have children and other authors don't allow either gender to have the ability to have kids.

i mean originally i thought betas are supposed to be like regular people

in addition when people found out about them having a kid half were confused half were happy .. well technically people in facebook