TheOldYaoiFan December 2, 2023 1:25 pm

Woo-won has always had an inferiority complex since the very beginning of the series, he's also kind of a scaredy cat when it comes to putting himself first.
I absolutely love how much he's grown and I love how Seo-an gives him enough comfort and confidence to go after the things he wants cause tho Seo-an has trauma he has a kind of idgaf attitude that Woo-won could learn from.
I think it's good that Woo-won is dealing with these feelings and instead of thinking he shouldn't be with the person he loves he's willing to do something about his complex, tho he himself doesn't know what that something is.
It's great to love a person intimately, but being with them publicly often creates a whole new Storm of issues, once others are involved shit always hits the fan, it's true for every relationship imo.
Anyway, I love them both sm and I'm sure they'll wind up talking about everything, they both seem to care about each other and are mature enough to do it.

TheOldYaoiFan December 1, 2023 3:40 pm

I went through the raws and this story keeps on becoming messier and messier, we’ll get to see the first couple more but all they do is woohoo.
Btw I’m not sure Norman ends up with Seungtak for sure I think he likes his roomie aka white hair aka minwoo but some other guy which may be minwoo s ex friend or fwb shows up, new guy seems to have had a crush and still got one for minwoo for a long time and he’s doing his best to be with him tho he seems super manipulative. Norman is still fwb or maybe he’s become boyfriends with Seungtak but to me it looks like he just didn’t feel confident enough to be with minwoo, minwoo probably hasn’t confessed either. Anyway even in bed he’s got hella more chemistry with minwoo and you can tell the other spends more time making their scenes.
I really hope norman and minwoo are endgame cause it’d just make sm sense. Seungtak is a total creep and his chemistry with minwoo is trash compared to what he’s got going on with minwoo.
If you can read korean and can tell us more, please do ┗( T﹏T )┛

TheOldYaoiFan October 3, 2023 8:16 pm

If y'all didn't know Josh (the bodyguard) has his own novel, where his love interest is Miller's brother (the one Keith has a hard time signing a new contract with)
And OMG it's SOOO dramatic and entertaining, this story got NOTHING on it.
It's an enemies to lovers as well and Josh is such a badass too.

I really hope we get a manhwa for them.

Also does any of you know whether we'll ever get Dane's (I think that's the firefighter's name?) story?
I heard he gets paired up with Miller (Keith's psycho friend)

    justwannaread October 10, 2023 12:59 pm

    I think Dane and Grayson's are confirmed. Not sure if it's been published somewhere. Op, where have you read Josh's story? I only read a fan translation and it wasn't that very good. I got the gist but it would have been great if it's official. I also heard the official has been stopped. Even Keith and Yeonwoo's story's official translation stopped at vol 3

    TheOldYaoiFan October 10, 2023 1:15 pm
    I think Dane and Grayson's are confirmed. Not sure if it's been published somewhere. Op, where have you read Josh's story? I only read a fan translation and it wasn't that very good. I got the gist but it would... justwannaread

    Yeah, I read the 2nd and 3rd volumes on wattpad Ithink. Foe volume 1, I read the official translation.
    The translation was a mess but it was entertaining regardless

    Kodzii July 11, 2024 12:15 pm

    Can you spoil me please, did Josh also ran when he got pregnant with their first child? (And is Chase the father of both? Cause it was stated by his sister that he is a Casanova)

    justwannaread July 11, 2024 1:05 pm
    Can you spoil me please, did Josh also ran when he got pregnant with their first child? (And is Chase the father of both? Cause it was stated by his sister that he is a Casanova) Kodzii

    Not technically run, no. They were strangers and Chase didn't even know it was Josh. I forgot how it all started Byt yes, he is the father of all Josh's children

    Kodzii July 11, 2024 2:08 pm
    Not technically run, no. They were strangers and Chase didn't even know it was Josh. I forgot how it all started Byt yes, he is the father of all Josh's children justwannaread

    Do you perhaps know or have a link where I can read this?

TheOldYaoiFan September 22, 2023 4:51 pm

He gets worse every single chapter. Sticking around to see if Dan gets his freedom back someday.
He's so damn trash and their "scenes" are always so hard to watch I skip them. No consent, no fun. This is horrible.

TheOldYaoiFan September 21, 2023 8:30 pm

I feel like I would like the governor had the setting and context been different.
Had he not been an actual serial killer I would've been fully supportive of him. He's got a pretty chill personality and can be quite caring but he's a murderer and he also R-ed our MC so ew, no.
I don't see how the MC could ever forgive him, I hope he doesn't end up with him and I hope the governor just disappears. He's a terrible person. Again, murder and R aside, he'd be a total green flag.

    Asamilee September 22, 2023 3:11 pm

    Yeah I also like his chill personality but the author put him in a tough position. How can the uke forgive a person murdering his whole family

    TheOldYaoiFan September 22, 2023 3:14 pm
    Yeah I also like his chill personality but the author put him in a tough position. How can the uke forgive a person murdering his whole family Asamilee

    Yeah, exactly! He not only killed all of the people he loved right in front of him but he also ruined his whole life. He made him dirt poor and enslaved. I don't think it'd be satisfying seeing them get together.

    lia September 22, 2023 9:41 pm

    he's not a murderer as far as we've seen but a soldier, he wasn't acting alone but on orders nor would yeonjo's family have lived w/o him since just any other soldier would've done it. it was a raid. for treason. he killed his father, not murdered him. an executioners doing his job basically, the "dirty dog of the king", by what we know. not sure how that makes him a terrible person, he was even the one sparing the children, women etc. including yeonjo and his brother.

    about the rape, kwon wanted to have sex with him when yeonjo joined the servants to seduce him as a spy, but then yeonjo wanted to kill himself instead, ended up in prison. SA happened but given their position (yeonjo is a slave with no right to say no), the time period and that yeonjo willingly joined to seduce him... kwon wanted to release him after saving him from being murdered by that scheming guy using him as a spy, but yeonjo instead begged to become his concubine because murder plans. kwon doesn't accept but instead releases him from slavery. long story short yeonjo wants to stay by his side because his revenge plans are the only reason he's still alive, so he becomes his concubine, they have sex. he wanted to be his concubine and even made manipulative plans to get that position.

    i mean yeah sure by 21th standard he could retrieve his consent which he did a few times but it's not our time and his literally job is to sleep with kwon. so ... not sure if i would classify that rape worth hating kwon for, since yeonjo willingly became his concubine (literally begged to be) but now often expects kwon to not sleep with him because he's not in the mood lol

    TheOldYaoiFan September 23, 2023 1:09 am
    he's not a murderer as far as we've seen but a soldier, he wasn't acting alone but on orders nor would yeonjo's family have lived w/o him since just any other soldier would've done it. it was a raid. for treaso... lia

    Killing someone = murder
    But go off author san, I will still have to disagree, this all sounds like an apology for his psycho tendencies.

    Amorim September 23, 2023 5:55 am
    Killing someone = murderBut go off author san, I will still have to disagree, this all sounds like an apology for his psycho tendencies. TheOldYaoiFan

    I don't disagree but do you know any soldiers? Anyone who served in the military in an active position? Are they all murderers too? Will they be condemned for the rest of their lives for completing their task?

    Jongsoo September 23, 2023 1:51 pm
    he's not a murderer as far as we've seen but a soldier, he wasn't acting alone but on orders nor would yeonjo's family have lived w/o him since just any other soldier would've done it. it was a raid. for treaso... lia

    THIS !!!!! ^
    Excellently explained!

    Jongsoo September 23, 2023 1:52 pm
    I don't disagree but do you know any soldiers? Anyone who served in the military in an active position? Are they all murderers too? Will they be condemned for the rest of their lives for completing their task? Amorim

    Totally agree with you.

    Jongsoo September 23, 2023 2:05 pm
    Totally agree with you. Jongsoo

    Also i want to add that Seme was just completing his task ordered to him by the King himself at that time. So seme pretty much has no say or control over these types of decisions/ orders of the King. He is bound to do it whether he likes it or not. If seme would have refused the order to kill uke's family at that time then the King would have ordered some other soldier to do it anf along with that the king would have given orders to killing the seme too. Because refusing King's orders at that time was severely punishable.

    I personally think that in the future seme would help the uke find the actual people behind framing uke's family wrongly and kill them for uke. It could be the Nobels or the King or both. And this would make their (seme and uke's) bond stronger and we can in return get the happy ending at the end that we all are expecting to get.

    TheOldYaoiFan September 23, 2023 7:12 pm
    I don't disagree but do you know any soldiers? Anyone who served in the military in an active position? Are they all murderers too? Will they be condemned for the rest of their lives for completing their task? Amorim

    And? Killing someone is still murder. Semantics.
    Now when it comes to the ethics of it all that's when we can agree or not with someone's decision to take someone else's life.
    In this particular case, I believe it was messed up and I can't see how you could possibly date someone who ruined your whole life, enslaved you and killed your whole family/ clan right in front of your eyes. Too much common sense right?

TheOldYaoiFan September 13, 2023 11:57 pm

The pacing is really good.
I like how things are progressing and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing them live better days

TheOldYaoiFan September 8, 2023 10:49 pm

So I looked over a few raws a while ago and let me tell you that Norman's friend totally creeps me out, he's so damn weird and their se* scenes are so awkward, they really are cringy and kinda disgusting ngl. Really didn't like that.
Norman's got wayyy more chemistry with the white haired roommate and they actually take their time together. I really hope he doesn't end up with that creepy friend of his.

    Kenma’s_Btch September 8, 2023 11:09 pm

    wasn’t norman’s friend in rs with his friend? But still had sex with the white haired guy? Is he cheating!

    TheOldYaoiFan September 9, 2023 11:43 am
    wasn’t norman’s friend in rs with his friend? But still had sex with the white haired guy? Is he cheating! Kenma’s_Btch

    Right? I think they may have had a friends with benefits situation going on.
    Plus it gets pretty clear later on that Normal is more into his roommate than his friend.

    Kenma’s_Btch September 9, 2023 12:22 pm
    Right? I think they may have had a friends with benefits situation going on.Plus it gets pretty clear later on that Normal is more into his roommate than his friend. TheOldYaoiFan

    He annoys me so bad istg, he goes blushing when he’s with the friend, and looks like there’s something going on with them but he still proceeded on doing it with the white haired guy, and prolly catching some feelings at the late chaps when they spend time with eo. Feel so bad for the other friend.

    TheOldYaoiFan September 10, 2023 11:08 pm
    He annoys me so bad istg, he goes blushing when he’s with the friend, and looks like there’s something going on with them but he still proceeded on doing it with the white haired guy, and prolly catching so... Kenma’s_Btch

    He's wild cause he literally sleeps with his friend AGAIN while he starts to get closer to his roommate I think he maybe did it as favor for his friend one last time? But you can clearly tell him and his roommate like each other plus their scenes are much better than those with his friend where he usually looks like he (his friend) just uses him to get off.

    Ichigo September 16, 2023 4:36 am

    I agree with all of this! I hope he ends up with white haired

    Kenma’s_Btch September 16, 2023 6:48 am
    He's wild cause he literally sleeps with his friend AGAIN while he starts to get closer to his roommate I think he maybe did it as favor for his friend one last time? But you can clearly tell him and his roomm... TheOldYaoiFan

    Exactly and what’s messed up more is he met his friends first and have a lil bit of a thing for each other and they could’ve been a couple fr, but this norman’s friend can’t keep on dicc that’s why he still sleeps with the white haired dude

TheOldYaoiFan August 2, 2023 7:05 pm

Y'all I read the novel and let's just say that the story turn REALLY REALLY dark real soon.
This guy's a literal villain.
It gives off Killing Stalking vibes

    star# August 2, 2023 7:17 pm

    spoil plz

    Im so fucked August 2, 2023 8:20 pm

    OMG YES Wooyeon deserves fcking hell istg

    TheOldYaoiFan August 2, 2023 11:21 pm
    spoil plz star#

    The ML literally rapes our poor protagonist every single time they're about to have sex, it gets so bad he literally starts bleeding. This psycho also hits him and even breaks his wrist during sex, I believe (not too sure cause the novel was fan translated but it was mentioned that he literally broke his wrist during sex). He will keep on injuring him and assaulting him in EVERY single way imagineable. He'll also literally take away his passport and goes full on crazy when he thinks he ran away. The protagonist starts hating him but he stays regardless, he becomes super scared of him too. I think it's a case of Stockholm syndrom, like no joke, he'll want to leave so many times but he ends up staying regardless.
    He'll treat him like absolute shit then they'll get separated for a while and he'll stalk him back home and become his boyfriend.
    This story is actually pretty disgusting, instead of dating he should've ran away asap.
    I stopped reading after they started daring and I think the protagonist gets into some sort of accident or gets shot/stabbed by one of his bf's crazy fans. Anyway, don't remember and I wish I hadn't wasted my time on such a story.

    TheOldYaoiFan August 2, 2023 11:21 pm
    OMG YES Wooyeon deserves fcking hell istg Im so fucked

    Absolutely, he's actually evil.

    Im so fucked August 3, 2023 4:37 am
    The ML literally rapes our poor protagonist every single time they're about to have sex, it gets so bad he literally starts bleeding. This psycho also hits him and even breaks his wrist during sex, I believe (n... TheOldYaoiFan

    Ikk the second i had the feeling their relationship would turn stockholm syndome-ey i dropped it not what i was expecting from only having been reading the manhwa ch

    Im so fucked August 3, 2023 4:39 am

    I just really wished the MC ran away but ofc he stays like MCs always do TT

    TheOldYaoiFan August 3, 2023 12:56 pm
    I just really wished the MC ran away but ofc he stays like MCs always do TT Im so fucked

    Yeah and it's a bummer, the manhwa was so well made at first but seeing that it closely follow the novel I doubt things are gonna stay nice and pretty. I'm really sick of these toxic ass messed up men

TheOldYaoiFan July 31, 2023 11:31 pm

This manhwa feels like it's dragging and Jay is so damn annoying, it's really annoying when characters make one of the MC's so omniscient. Worst part is when he actually threatens to harm yoohan if he refuses him. IDK abt y'all but this has gotten quite boring for me, I check up on this manhwa once every few months to see how much progress it's made and it feels like it's moving at a snail's pace.
Anyway, I just hope Yoohan gets better and finds stability in his life, him, the manager and their actor friend are the only ones I'm rooting for.

TheOldYaoiFan July 29, 2023 1:03 am

First couple ends up looking cute together but ngl at the beginning I really didn't like the Director cause damn he really was harassing the protagonist. I legit had to erase/ignore that big chunk of the story for my own sanity.
He used to creep me out fr, I'd file for sexual harassment if I were in his shoes but lol it's yaoi so anything goes.
Plus I didn't really feel much chemistry between them, the protagonist had crazy chemistry with his bbf and I felt as though it was heavily implied that his bff still had feelings for him.

Second couple had no business being a thing, and the ending implying they would still possibly be able to be a thing was disgusting. IRL mf's like that don't change, hell even in THEIR world he showed no signs of wanting to change. Such a waste of our time, I would've preferred he ends up alone or if we're gonna be super messy, his husband's brother, cause he seemed to actually really be into him.
After the cheating, abuse and DV, I'm disappointed that the idea of them getting back together could possible come to fruition.
Yeah, the author shouldn't have left that part up for interpretation. If you leave an abuser make sure you never go back, it's a waste of your time, those mf's never actually change judt cause you left and went back.

Shout out to them Omega cousin baddie, he ate, slayed and more!

And I hope heetae's momma chokes on air, that bitch evil.

Overall, not so bad, beautiful art but questionable plot choices, bit frustrating, some baddies here and there with a pinch of disappointment.

    stuckinmybed July 29, 2023 6:15 am

    Heetae could suck a dick fr it would have been better if it was his brother

    TheOldYaoiFan July 30, 2023 10:53 am
    Heetae could suck a dick fr it would have been better if it was his brother stuckinmybed

    Absolutely!
    **spoiler alert**

    Remember when the Omega was gettinf closer to his bro and when he told heetae that the kid wasn't his mid fight? I was actually happy for once, then the final few chapters got me a whole lot disappointed.

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