TheOldYaoiFan's Topics (287)

That did end at a bad cliffhanger.... I hope it turns out okay.. But this is getting closer to the break that will change their relationship. This could be that break.

I think Kim Dan will be alright because potato (i forgot his name lol) was there with Kim Dan to test out the spray so hopefully he'll be able to defend kim dan.

Jo is a sweet guy and thoughtful but pretty naive. he’s getting pulled down into an impending disaster. TJ is fucked up but he cared about Ian in a normal way in the beginning probably. Both of them are partly victims of circumstance, but also can be brutal. For Jo‘s well-being it would be better if he got far away and Ian and TJ just stayed together, I’d hate to see Jo‘s character turn dark and corrupted but I kinda see things going that way T_T

Jo is anything but naive lol. If he wants to win Ian's love he has to earn them for himself. He has to fight for it. Don't you guys trust his guts? Let him do. We can tell it's gonna fck him up really bad but at least it's better than not doing anything. I don't mind seeing dark Jo lol.

Exactly.

And because TJ and Ian already have some sort of foundation in there relationship. its easier for them to end up together. They have 19 years of history. Whereas with Jo that bond is still being built.

I want Ian to end up Jo. I want him to move on from his firsr love.

He already picked up a gun, we’re getting to his dark arc lol. Definitely agree with your opinion but i feel like Ian needs to step away from the toxicity as he is chasing the normal life and our dearest Jo is the one that can give him that

Again wishing for everyone’s happy ending

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.
Yeah, TJ is sexy. He's also complex, direct, capable, bold and strong-willed. He's witty and I like these kind of guys. He also have issues for sure, and so do I.
Saying people only like a character because of their looks... is ignorant. Just because you don't like him, or don't see any good in him - which is totally fine! - it doesn't mean that others cannot find something likeable in them, or similar to themselves.

No

For the record, I do think Jo should go with Ian. But we'll have 4 season to see what'll happen...
The only thing I hope no one ends up dead to be honest. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Nice.

I hope TJ dies

French? Peck? or Cheek?

All, in this order.

Aju Nice

I think it's getting pretty childish now.

Nah Ian needs to sort out his past that dragging him for once and for all or else it will hunt him for the rest of his life.

if you really think joe and ian are in love and should end up together then you have not understood this story at all lmao. you are putting all the blame on tj as if tj is the one who controls ian's emotions and actions.

ian willingly chooses tj over joe every time even in the latest season which hasn't been translated yet. ian literally lies and hides the fact that he's still fucking tj from joe. ian is manipulative and is leading joe on even tho from his thoughts ian clearly thought that he does not want to pursue a serious relationship with joe. ian does not deserve joe bc he's a much better person than both ian and tj. ian does not feel indebted to tj at all that's not even implied. they're both in love with each other and very attached to the point it's not even healthy. but ian doesn't want to live the life tj does so he's trying to leave knowing it'll hurt both himself and tj.

I do agree on what you said about Ian, he definitely is wishy washy and can't seem to make a final decision and although Jo is better than both Ian and TJ I don't think Ian is as bad as TJ.
My purpose here was not to say that TJ holds all the blame, I wanted to highlight how he is in no way shape or form a great love interest for Ian, so I still don't know why the fans like him and trash Jo who is amazing imo.
I DO remember that Ian was a drug addict or tried to commit suicide and I believe TJ helped him survive that. So that's why I believe he's indebted to him, that and the fact that he has been a best friend and possibly family to Ian over the years. Tho Ian chose to do many things out of his own volition, I feel like for the most part he was just doing whatever TJ liked without trying to find himself (which he is currently doing). I think he cares about TJ but I don't think they're very compatible romantically, Jo on the other hand gives more leeway to Ian and gives him his space which is new to Ian and healthier for him as an individual.
Jo is following his heart and I hope Ian finally gets to end things for good with TJ. I don't think they're madly in love with each other, I think Ian loves TJ in more than one way and I think TJ is the one who wants him in a romantic way the most.
All in all, Jo for the win and if Ian keeps acting up then I hope he ends up with trashy TJ, cause Ian is a great guy.

i mean everyone has their own opinions a lot of people can argue about tj the same way you did for joe yk that's what the author wants literally loll. i think even if love wasn't involved tj and ian are very attached due to their trauma and many years together so i feel like they can't ever escape and ian's idea of disappearing for 3 years was the correct thing to do but yk shit happened and he stayed. but yeah idk if you've read the new season but ian is still continuing his ways sadly still on and off with tj. but this time it's actually tj who's disappeared now so maybe he's letting go for now we'll still have to see how it develops still.

Everything will work out if they talk and share their feelings. We are in chapter 45 and I still don't get the purpose of Jo being in the story. He's helping out Ian and whatnot but it doesn't benefit him. He's in an awkward position. The one thing that I wish is Ian to stop doing is giving Jo any hope. I don't think he's in love with Jo. He should've said that to him. Besides Ian might be going back to the gang.

Yeah Ian being with TJ even in S2 isn’t anything new. They’ve been with each other for 19 years and still haven’t achieved anything Jo has helped Ian feel a change. Also let’s not forget in ch. 15, it’s implied Ian doesn’t have the feelings for TJ anymore so TJ’s love is one sided. I don’t understand why delusional shippers think Ian still loves him. Their love is built from trauma and guilt, 19 years. That can do a lot to people, they’re human beings.

In ch. 26, TJ states that he’s using Ian’s guilt fo him to keep him by his side. So he is definitely making Ian feel guilty on purpose and using it to his advantage.

Ah yes raping someone and coercing them into doing something that they don’t like is indeed a slay thing to do

this is so real

Yeah tell that to the guy who paid an annual fee and signed paperwork to get into the club and who then chose to go with the most famous dom in the club while also being a total shithead who throws a glass at a sexworker for asking if she did anything wrong. Also possibly the same guy who abused the protagonist in the past.
Yeah watch absolutely none of us feel bad for him

Oh my god you can’t seriously be justifying rape right now, honestly I can’t understand how someone would think that everything you said is enough for someone to force themselves on someone else, being a jerk and piece of trash of a human being does not mean you deserve to be raped and violated like that, I genuinely can’t believe what I’m reading, being a rape apologist is not something to be proud of.Do better

So rape equals slay for you. Please rethink what you wrote instead of arguing about it.

I think that person above you had pretty good points, I don't think this would count as rape when he signed a contract giving his consent (rape=lack of consent) and he visited this establishment multiple times hoping to meet her again. You could say he wanted revenge but the guards stopped him easily last time so what was he hoping for now? Plus by your logic the s3x worker also got raped because despite her consent she was treated badly yet I don't see you complaining about that.
The manhwa depicting actual rape is "Boss, You've Worked Hard (Yaoi)" where he gets black mailed and raped. This is not the same.

You know what, making sense is apparently problematic.

You honestly sound like one of those people who condemn Hamas but not Israel.
The main character is a baddie, period. He's trash and I don't see why we're supposed to feel bad for that trashy man who mind you was tryna get violent with her just like he did with that other female sex worker. Anyway, this is all I have to say. Goodbye.

I think you replied to the wrong person and I'm pro Palestinian I don't support shitrael

Omg yeah, I replied to the wrong person my bad. You slay too

It's okay. I checked out some stuff they're reading and 90% is bl and lot of them contain rape so I feel like they're being a hypocrite

I guess some people speak before they think...

Talking to a rape apologist is like talking to wall, I'm just going to make some points clear and move on with your life because this argument is pointless, first your comment doesn't make any sense just because someone signs a contract to engage in sexual activities in a certain doesn't mean they Consent to be raped, second you should stop justifying rape No means no and he clearly protested many many times, third the sex worker was the one forcing herself on a guy w said no many times over, fourth and I can't stretch this enough for you to understand, when someone doesn't give you verbal Consent and agrees in a conscient state of mind to have sex with you, YOU BACK OFF....peoples bodies are not there for your personal entertainment, you can't violate them just because they're shitty people but I guess not everyone has common sense these days

I admit that most of the bls I read are pure shit and literally 90% of them are rape or dub-con but you'll never catch me justifying it and rooting for a rapist, that mentality is for sick people and people who think that rape is a reasonable punishment for bad attitude

Lol so only thing your big brain could think of was that you're talking to a wall? A wall with arguments it seems, also I guess it wasn't important enough for your social justice warrior mind to notice, but the sex worker i mentioned was the one he hired at hotel outside the club. He clearly was not treating her right, in fact it seemed like she was abused by him. But let's ignore that poor women and focus on a person who's main goal in life is abusing people around him.
I don't know if you noticed but he signed contract in BDSM club which includes CNC play (consent non consent). But I have to admit that she did not treat him idealy and all this above does not excuse rape, that is if it occurred in this specific situation, since in your words the BL you have read are "literally 90% of them are rape or dub-con" you should know the difference.
The problem was not if he gave consent at the beginning but during it. Which according to my arguments above, he did. He was seeking out this type of pleasure and was frustrated by people around him. In my own words "You could say he wanted revenge but the guards stopped him easily last time so what was he hoping for now?" Same experience of course.
Also I'd like to add that as a woman I physically can't and won't support rape of any gender.it is an act for some worse than death that humiliates and brakes people on deeper levels than we could ever imagine.

glad you finally agree

Slay indeed