KillerQueen's Topics (49)

I'm glad I've found someone that understood the same way I did.

But about all of them being in danger of dying. Do you think that it has to do with the species they belong too?

Since Hwagok in season 1 almost died while giving birth, due to Hwa's blood getting into contact with his (he was a lycan at the time). So, if even one of the babies is a vampire, the risk is higher, as they are all together in the same place.

Plus, we don't know what effects might Seol mutant side might have on those babies?

What do you think?

I agree.. The possibility of the third one being a vampire or having part vampire genes is pretty high. That could also explain why they aren't considered triplets.. Because maybe one is genetically totally different from the rest. But we can only conjecture atm. The future chapter will tell. I'm super excited to see them all. ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

I liked someone's suggestion on the mystery child being Seolhyun female Lycan trying to be born cause Idea said it different and isn't blood so it's not related to Hwa and I think Idea would know if it was a vampire plus the chances of the babies being a vampire are low since Seolhyun is Lycan and Hwa is half of each. Idea also said they're in danger and Seolhyun female Lycan is very assertive and wants to be the host/dominant personality.
I also feel like Lee Bin not caring about his grandchildren is more from his own experience and all the drama that came when Hwa was born; I think he thinks it would be better if they weren't born plus I feel like the story of Seolhyun and Hwa when they were younger will come up soon so I also think that's another reason for Lee's coldness towards the situation. Either way, I can't wait to see the twins and mystery baby cause the fever is growing strong! but that would also mean this manga will come to an end when that happens ┗( T﹏T )┛

Interesting theory.. We can only wait and see where the author takes this though... But in the meanwhile we can enjoy discussing what's it going to be. Hehe

Yes, for sure...I've been very much enjoying everyone's opinions and guesses; I kinda like piecing them together just in case I'm disappointed with the real outcome cause everyone has been having great theories lol

I'm actually not expecting anything because I don't want to get disappointed. I just want to see those cute little rascals asap(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

I get all of this and you’re right but for a relationship that’s lasted for 8 years the development and lack of communication is just ridiculous and unbelievable. For the sake of the plot sure. But this isn’t believable in the slightest that a 8 year would be tossed out the window with never once expressing insecurities present in their relationship. Let alone to give not even a hint of an explanation, and begin sleeping with your ex’s superior. If you even knew someone capable of this stupidity and passive aggressiveness I’d say you were better off without them to begin with.

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it said '2 years later'

Totally love this comment(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

I don't feel that way at all, i don't expect ukes to be weak, i personally didn't like Hyesung the majority of this story because he was a jerk. Not because he was independent or anything. I didn't like him because of his actions, nothing else.

After reading those hate comments you spoke of, I appreciate your comment even more. Thank you for not hating on Hyesung ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I've read so many hate comments on manhuas recently, it has become plain annoying .-.

I gave up with this webtoon at chapter 7 and only know the gist of it from spoilers of people I follow on fb and instagram, but I get the basic of both mc personalities. The thing is, both of them are purposely portrayed to be either extremely tsundere or love sick. I don’t blame the author for trying to hook attention even if hatred and controversies are what keep this story popular.
None of the characters are mature or realistic, and that is very common in yaoi-ish stories that use hot smexy scenes as selling points.

Don’t get too worked up about this because I know the author would make the uke “accepting” the seme and be “matured” later, and they would have a happy ending. Just check back at the end of this webtoon to see the result because the writing sucks. It not worth wasting your brain cells on arguments like who is a bad mom/dad.

I actually really like it... I think there was some really good character development and yeah plot wise it might have been a bit weak but.. Overall I really thought it was interesting... It's not an argument I'm seeking here.. I just thought to give people a chance to think from hyesung's perspective.. Maybe give it read.. Can't guarantee you'll like it but I think it's worth a read.

Thank you

Can't deny that.. I agree there was a point I just wanted to hold his shoulders and shake him bad and ask.. What is wrong with you. But when I put myself in his shoes I realized apart from the bribe thing.. I might totally freak out about everything too... There's two points about him I didn't like. The money he took to give birth to byul and second leaving byul.. No matter what that's still your baby.. I can understand it's scary and that lil misunderstanding made him lose faith in dojin but.. Leaving byul at that critical point was not a wise decision.. I'm just glad he decided upon something... Being wishy washy was not the answer.

You understand what the author tried to create with Hyesung character,I did the same but different from you I realized that he's another wbt that sank as a titanic.
I just can't bring myself to read the beginning never again how poor this was written. It's a pity when the art doesn't follow the writing. To put this simple the author can't develop a tsundere character, got lost in the alpha tsundere and just changed his personality and created an annoying spoiled omega.
A well-written tsundere character's Aki in Honto Yajuu, he doesn't even need to have omega factor to demonstrate your dere dere and Tomoharu knows he's loved.
Hyesung tsundere's an annoying contradiction that's not even worth discussing.

He didn't take the money in the end, both after the birth and after he met Dojin again. If he had the money, he wouldn't have needed Heesoo to help him out of the country. He obviously didn't stay because he overheard them talking as if they're going to dump Byul on him. Not only did he not want Byul in the first place, he also knows he's in no position to give a good life to this kid. Their agreement said that he could leave as soon as he gave birth, lots of people do this, it's like surrogacy or adoption. It was the best decision he could've made with the information he had at that moment.

I can agree with everything you said except the part about it being like surrogacy. Surrogacy doesn't involve both of the biological parents. That wasn't surrogacy, it was someone getting knocked up because they had unprotected sex and then essentially selling the baby to the father with the alternative being abortion. My issue is that HE got himself pregnant, the father wanted the baby and he took advantage to get money. So many people try to say he did it for his future, but that's not what it looked like to me. He seemed pretty explicitly to be using him. He kinda gloats about the money and luxuriates in Dojin's pocket money during the pregnancy. He even calls Dojin and Heesoo idiots because he can get whatever he wants. I believe it was in ch 21?

You make a good point. But this is still like a surrogacy in that he's getting paid for it (I'm not saying it is a surrogacy, I'm just making the comparison). I'm still on Hyesung's side since he's not manipulating anyone, Dojin is letting himself get manipulated. This is all so Dojin can manipulate Hyesung into staying later after he gives birth (which he is unable to do ultimately).

Yes and no. While Dojin DID have the intention to try and whoo Hyesung (i also wouldn't say manipulate since it just wasn't really like that, he just tried to court him, imo) into staying during the pregnancy, i wouldn't say that was his primary reasoning for agreeing to pay him. It shows very clearly that Dojin loved Byul the instant he found out Hyesung was pregnant. I got the feeling Byul was just as important to Dojin as Hyesung. I guess what I'm saying is that you're connecting Dojin agreeing to pay him and Dojin saying he plans to whoo Hyesung during the pregnancy and i personally view those two things as two separate things. It's not that he payed him to keep the baby to try to manipulate him into staying, it's that Hyesung was threatening to abort the baby do he agreed to pay him as that was the alternative Huesung gave him and he wanted Byul. So that was solved. Then, in addition to that, he ALSO wanted to convince Hyesung to stay and the deal they made worked in that favor as well.

So*, not Do... Hyesung*, not Huesung.

I didn't think of the contract from the perspective that Dojin was trying to keep Byul, I'll concede that. But Hyesung didn't threaten to abort the baby for money until his friend told him to safeguard himself against the baby being forced upon him; at this point, he still didn't know much at all about Dojin, who knows if Dojin is actually good or trash. Hyesung was safeguarding himself for the future so that he wouldn't be responsible at all for Byul once he's born, and he added the money and stuff because to HIM, the baby isn't his baby, it's Dojin's, he's just carrying it to term, that's why he refuses to see the ultrasound photos or even Byul himself when he is born, he doesn't want to see the baby as his baby. The pregnancy was supposed to be a job to him, a business deal. When he first wanted to abort the baby, he wasn't trying to extort shit out of Dojin. Dojin offered all the shopping and other stuff first. Dojin was going to do whatever Hyesung wanted regardless of a contract, cause supposedly he loves Hyesung. And Hyesung, while he doesn't know that Dojin loves him, knows the contract is a way of affirming to everyone that this baby is NOT my responsibility, if you can't accept that I will not be a parent to this child, I will abort it since I absolutely will not be a parent to this child. He didn't even take the money or ask for it in the end. Dojin was manipulating Hyesung, he lets Hyesung think that he'll be free of the baby once he gives birth when he has no intention of letting him leave because he "loves" him. If Dojin was upfront to Hyesung about wanting to court him, Hyesung most likely would've aborted the baby right away, because at that point, he would know that Dojin wasn't being completely genuine about the contract.

Forgot to add this: By running away, Hyseung showed that he didn't actually care about the money in the contract, all he cared about was not getting Byul dumped on him. Nobody wants a baby they didn't want forced onto them, it's terrible for both the parent and the baby when the parent doesn't want the baby. And being an unwanted child, Hyesung is probably aware of that.

I didnt read that much into why Hyesung said he wanted an abortion, he only said it once RIGHT after finding out he was pregnant. To me that looks like he was just panicking and he decided to keep it when he realized Dojin wanted Byul. As you said, he only thought to ask for money when his friend brought it up. I think he knew Dojin wanted Byul, i don't know where you're getting the odea that Hyesung thought Dojin wanted him to kerp the baby to whoo him. I think you're right when you say he would've left if Dojin had been upfront and said he was going to whoo him, but I dont think you're right in saying the reason he would've left is because he would've realized Dojin was lying about the contract. I think he would've left because at the time he was pretty pissed with Dojin and probably wouldn't have wanted to hear a thing about a life with Dojin, that or i think he would've done what he did post pregnancy and assumed Dojin was trying to make him take care of the baby by himself and he would've left.

Well, obviously he doesn't want a life with Dojin, who wants a life with someone they barely know and had sex with only a few times? Hyesung wants to avoid the mistakes of his parents. Also, Hyesung detested Dojin, for both reasonable and unreasonable reasons. If he knew Dojin intended on wooing him, he would back out on the contract because Dojin isn't upholding his side of the contract, which is meant to ensure that he DOESN'T have a life with the baby, and in turn, a life with Dojin. We're arguing the same point, I don't get why you're arguing semantics. Also, I never said that Hyesung thought that Dojin made him keep the baby to woo him, maybe you're reading my post wrong. I only said that IF he found out about Dojin wanting to woo him, he'd most likely be out of there. Hyesung didn't know that Dojin wanted to woo him, he only knew that Dojin wanted the baby, he had no idea about Dojin's feelings because Dojin NEVER said anything.

Yes, i was agreeing with you on parts. Is there something I'm missing? Why're you suddenly irritated? I wasn't arguing semantics, you had stated that you thought Hyesung would have thought Dojin was using the baby to whoo him if Dojin was upfront about whooing him at the very end of that response i had been responding to, i was saying that i don't think so. That's it. I DID however agree that he would've left at the time if Dojin had been upfront, so I then gave to you what i thought would've been his reasoning for leaving had Dojin made it clear he was going to try to whoo him, that being the circumstances at the time. I don't personally think Dojin was being manipulative, i think he wanted Byul, i don't think Hyesung would've thought Dojin was being manipulative either because he saw Dojin wants Byul. I think he would've left, not because he thought the contract was manipulation like you implied, but because of the circumstances back then. I don't think the thought that Dojin might be manipulating him with Byul would've even crossed his mind because there is nothing implying that. Dojin very clearly loves Byul.

Dude, you're arguing about the way I said something when we're just arguing the same exact point. Semantics. I NEVER said that Hyesung thought Dojin was using the baby to woo him, nor did I say that Hyesung would think he was using the baby to woo him if he found out about the wooing. I SAID if Dojin was upfront about his wooing, Hyesung would know that Dojin was not entirely honest about the contract. If he found out, that means that he knows that Dojin didn't intend on fulfilling the contract in its entirety, meaning there's a possibility that Hyesung'd have to be a parent to Byul and have a life with Dojin, NEITHER OF WHICH he wants. So due to the fact that Dojin was not entirely honest about honoring the contract (which is MANIPULATION, also known as DECEPTION OF INTENT; even if he primarily wanted Byul, he was also banking on getting Hyesung to stay), Hyesung would deicde to leave most likely if he knew. This is because the fact that Dojin lied means that there is a possibility of being stuck with the baby AND Dojin (the circumstances you mentioned), and Hyesung didn't want that at all. And I ALREADY said that Hyesung didn't know about Dojin's intent to woo him because he didn't know anything about Dojin's feelings, because Dojin didn't say anything. This is literally a rehash of my previous post, so you're probably trolling me if you argue against these points while also arguing for them...

I'm just going to end this here, you're being childish. I literally just made a post to explain everything and you're still coming at me. Work on your problems.

@youraedthiswrogn. It's lame that you responded to me and then blocked me to make it LOOK like you're right (since you can't actually do it). Did you realize you were making a redundant argument? You made a post that agreed with my points while also disagreeing with those same points... ╮(￣▽￣)╭ Aren't you the one with the problems? Specifically, a reading comprehension problem? And basic reasoning problems?

@youraedthiswrogn. It's lame that you responded to me and then blocked me to make it LOOK like you're right (since you can't actually do it). Did you realize you were making a redundant argument? You made a post that agreed with my points while also disagreeing with those same points... ╮(￣▽￣)╭ Aren't you the one with the problems? Specifically, a reading comprehension problem? And basic reasoning problems?

That's what I thought too when I saw that author's art style. But for me Love Shuttle came in mind instead :)