I came to the comments to see if this was a good read but everyone is spooked about about a mysterious baby lol. I think I'll read anyways cause this is funny
Nooooo please. I beg you. Don't fall into the trap we all fell in. Save your sanity and don't read this cluster fuck of a story.
agreed . whoever started to read this series, save yourself from this freaking infinite loop of suffer because i too has fallen too deep in the mud.
Lmaooo yessss listen to him. This story is a train wreck you can't look away from!
Some spoilers said, that in the novel, they suffered for a long time. The author always like the chasing arc. Same with the parents of the ml's story, they used to be that way, abuse then
separate then chase. Both are so sick in the head.
and tbh? the chasing arc isnt even that LONG It's 85% suffering then 5%regret then 10%chasing arc in like 10-15 chapters. LIKE! at least make them work for it a bit (like 10x the suffering they inflicted lol)
The comments looked interesting so I peeked at the new chapters. Ive had this on my list for a while but i wanna know if its recommended before i start reading . Can someone tell me if this is actually good or if it's gonna be two angsty mfs crying and having sex all the time
it’s literally traumatizing i’ve never seen two bitches be this fucked up in my entire life
The story has been storying since day one. I have been hooked. This is the one I save for last when I get updates
Can you spoil me by telling all the traumatizing parts
Basically the bottom was groomed and abused by his tutor, and then he met the MC when the MC was younger. Long story short he used the mc's big brother to be closer to him. big bro found out and offed himself. And is basically trying to groom MC into remembering him and looking only at him.
That was horrible. Thanks for the explanation.
I really hate that one source of cirrus' trauma might be the one who reunites them... a win is a win but it doesn't feel like it this way man fuck cirrus' dad, 'I miss the days we played piano' maybe if you were a better father, what the fuck is your absentee headass talking about !!
"My conniving son did that?." Shut up you had sex on your own sons bed you freak fathers when they set the worse examples for their kids and show them no love acting surprised when their kid turns out messed up
You can't escape seeing r*pe in yaoi but straight up blackmail too? I mean ik sometimes they have the threat of blackmail in other yaoi, but Ik this author would have the top follow through. Not to mention they already sent the image to the friend. This is truly a 'the crowd goes silent' moment. Also, why do they always write the bottom as an asshole, douchey type character and use that to justify them being r*ped? We're only 5 chapters in but I know their other stories so ik the authors pattern...
When it's psychological horror that's one thing, but this author writes smut like this for the sake of it. But I literally can never read it without feeling like I'm reading psychological horror. On one hand I believe in 'don't like don't read' but man I really wonder who tf enjoys this, or if the author really thinks they're cooking.
I think I just personally don't like the author cause of the massive disappointment they gave the s&m community. People were so excited for s&m themed webtoons but it turned out to be the most dangerous, stereotypical type stories. Basically felt like what people who don't do s&m fantasize it being. Or the type of people who get into s&m thinking they can do whatever they want
I think that calling it a “psychological horror” is a perfect way to describe this. I’ve read some fucked up shit and didn’t flinch but this story makes me so unsettled for some reason.
Yeah but what sucks is the author doesnt seem to intend for it to be psychological horror, just straight up porn
First roses and champagne now this. They better not..
They won’t dw
Why do i feel like ur lying plewse i hope they don't actually
Nah I read the next chap and from what I read they ain’t gon do nun, but maybe some parts were left out in what I read since it ain’t like a good translation but I doubt that
Oh ok thank goodness
Seeing all these people mad about the chapter mainly being about chan-il and rin finally talking out the misunderstanding cirrus caused feels like watching solo stans who despise other members
It's actually insane how many people wish death on them I wish lost in the cloud NEVER reached TikTok it brought in a lot of crazies who only read for cirrus, think he's a saint and don't give a shit about the plot.
Cirrus is a GREAT and interesting character but something he's not... is a baby you need to coddle. He's old enough to know to own his mistakes but none of you want him to grow. Atp I'm begging you people to drop this series cause the comments are flooded with overprotective obsessed weirdos and I can't find any normal comments actually about the story .
Pls direct me to any comments that aren't "when is she gonna apologise for slapping him >:(" "skylar doesn't deserve him" or "can they kts already why are they on the screen" I wanna talk with people who actually like this story not just cirrus. Or with people who like cirrus but don't want him to be handled with kid gloves 24/7
This !!!! Omg the same way people blame skylar too like sorry that he feel invalidated with how cirrus start the relationship??? Of course cirrus deserve to be happy but he need to grow on , you cant force people to accept your mistakes forever by the time you need to realize what you did is wrong that hiding it isnt going to erase anything. Same with skylar he was harsh at times he hurted cirrus they both need to grow and people who hate on chan-il and ri-in for their relationship like i know we read mainly for skyrus but this two person are important to the story too thats why litc feel alive because its happened in real life with teenagers relationship and misunderstanding.
Right!! I mean would none of these commenters break up with their partner if they found out they started the relationship to ridicule them?
And yeah I want cirrus to be happy and overcome his traumas, but he needs to grow for that to happen. If him being happy depends on people forgiving regardless of what he does wrong, then no one wins.
And I remember when bl used to have a whole cast of characters, and conflict that couldn't be solved in just one or two chapters. Nowadays bl can have 100 chapters and it'll still only have the main couple and maybe a few minor characters. People newer readers are too used to being spoon-fed romance and only want main couple, nothing else. This author is creating a real story and a whole universe.
THIS !! I cannot believe what happened to this comment section!? I am glad for the author that this got popular but it did atract many weirdos
No one in this comments section wants character growth for cirrus, they want to coddle him and for him to have no repercussions for his actions ever and for everyone to be nice to him no matter what he does.
I love how rin is being understanding and Skylar looked back realised cirrus DID actually care for him. But their initial reactions were valid. Rins BEST FRIEND made her look like a cheater on purpose and Skylar found out the beginning of his relationship was a lie. But they both are giving cirrus the benefit of the doubt because rin understands him and Skylar knows he grew a little since then.
It's CIRRUS that should apologise but because of his traumas he withdrew from everyone thinking they abandoned him. Skylar and rin need to keep reaching out so he knows they care but cirrus also shuts out anyone in the blink of an eye. He punched skylar after they broke up, and people acted like it was skylars fault. If they reconnect, they're gonna have to meet halfway.
All these commenters remind me of when I get mad at my brother, and he gets mad at me for being mad at him. It makes no sense and is so unreasonable
EXACTLYYY these commenters r so myopic about the situation & just bandwagon for cirrus bc he has daddy issues
You forget complexity is scary :(
we feel bad for cirrus bc of everything he’s been through he didn’t just have daddy issues
Fr brah
feeling bad for him is fine, I feel bad for him too, but I’m referring to ppl who just blindly erase all the insane shit he did & act mad/surprised when ppl he victimized are upset with him
We all do but people act like because of his traumatic past that everything he does now is ok and everyone needs to be super considerate and forgive him immediately no matter what. Thats not that works. Theres something called accountability.
Of course someone with unresolved trauma could struggle to make rational decisions when under stress like cirrus, but that doesnt mean everyone has to let it slide when he does bad shit. Trauma isn't a get-out-of-jail free card. Even his friends and boyfriend arent obligated , understanding him . That's not how that works.
Rin and Skylar still understand him enough to forgive him. This is the best cirrus could ask for tbh. He did horrible shit, people reacted and they spent time to think about it and forgave him. People are acting like because they both got over it and want to reconnect with him that it means cirrus did nothing wrong in the first place.. that's crazy
no one’s asking u to just forgive him but maybe try to understand him and sympathize with him like everyone’s doing now. after chan il found out cirrus’s past, he started understanding everything that’s happened.hes not a bad person, he’s broken
so why belittle what’s he’s been through and the way he acts just “bc he has daddy issues”
That's exactly what im asking people to do... but ppl keep thinking sympathizing = excusing all bad behavior. I love cirrus and his suffering is tragic but doesn't mean I want every character to baby him when he does wrong, like most of the comment do
If you think me saying we shouldn't coddle someone when they do bad stuff just because they had a traumatic is "belitting" then idk what to tell you. By the way, I not once said "bc he had daddy issues"... that was you who brought it up in your first response to me because you lack reading comprehension.
But lemme say it one more time, you can have compassion / understanding for someone AND criticize them when they do something wrong. I think that's a hard concept for u to grasp though
now ur just yapping abt semantics bc u can’t admit you’re wrong
i didn’t bring it up ur og comment literally said “bc he has daddy issues” if u don’t know what ur arguing, don’t argue
that makes no sense lmao wanna try that again
Really? Cause I can't find the word daddy or issues in my og comment. Are you sure you aren't talking about the first comment on my post that astolfo wrote? So not only do you lack reading comprehension, you don't even know who you're arguing with
Does it not make sense to you bc you don't know what 'semantics' means or...? You keep proving you don't know how to read
I hate manhwa where there's no logic in the universe. Author has the mc treating getting raped like a minor inconvenience. I hate when they play rpe for laughs in yaoi like bro call the police instead of treating him like he's only being annoying. It would make sense if he's scared or feels threatened but here it's not even either of those things
Wait does this count as rape? I thought it was more like dubious consent since while he didn’t fully consent there was a point where the mc was like how he’ll use his hands instead
Of course it is rape, drunk people can't give consent
Duh, he was so drunk that he was sleeping on the streets, of course he didn't give consent. Plus the entire time he kept saying "no" and "stop" and various other things, even in his drunk state he never wanted this. Not that it would have mattered since he was drunk and an Inebriated person can't consent.
Exactly
He told him to stop multiple times so everything that happens there on out is rape. Also about him asking to use his hands, he asked so at the very least he could make it hurt less by prepping himself , to that the ml refused. so on top of being a rapist he did it dry with no prep just to be sadistic
Dubious consent is never when the character says no, that means there's no consent. Dubious consent is more like the character looks uncertain or like they don't want to but doesn't stop it or say no. Which is not the situation at all. And like the other comments said, when someone is drunk its automatically is rape since drunk people can't consent. But like I said he told him to stop and no like 10 times either way
I'm surprised you even asked if it counts as rape , if someone says stop or no then it's rape. If the person tries to protect themselves by trying using their hands to not get hurt, theyre comproming. It still makes it rape. It's like if someones asked a rapist to at least use a condom. Doesn't mean they're ok with it happening, they just accepted they can't get out of the situation and want the least possible suffering to come out of it
From that last chapter I thought a chasing arc was gonna start but hunter is thinking shit like "ooh i can't slowly manipulate him into trusting me... I have to be more aggressive!" and idk if he means he's gonna or if he means more like going on the offense... romantically, or if he means forcing yujin into being with him. Idk they're on two different wavelengths rn I don't think either of them forreal like each other yet besides attraction oof this hurts