Seeing all these people mad about the chapter mainly being about chan-il and rin finally talking out the misunderstanding cirrus caused feels like watching solo stans who despise other members
It's actually insane how many people wish death on them I wish lost in the cloud NEVER reached TikTok it brought in a lot of crazies who only read for cirrus, think he's a saint and don't give a shit about the plot.
Cirrus is a GREAT and interesting character but something he's not... is a baby you need to coddle. He's old enough to know to own his mistakes but none of you want him to grow. Atp I'm begging you people to drop this series cause the comments are flooded with overprotective obsessed weirdos and I can't find any normal comments actually about the story .
Pls direct me to any comments that aren't "when is she gonna apologise for slapping him >:(" "skylar doesn't deserve him" or "can they kts already why are they on the screen" I wanna talk with people who actually like this story not just cirrus. Or with people who like cirrus but don't want him to be handled with kid gloves 24/7
This !!!! Omg the same way people blame skylar too like sorry that he feel invalidated with how cirrus start the relationship??? Of course cirrus deserve to be happy but he need to grow on , you cant force people to accept your mistakes forever by the time you need to realize what you did is wrong that hiding it isnt going to erase anything. Same with skylar he was harsh at times he hurted cirrus they both need to grow and people who hate on chan-il and ri-in for their relationship like i know we read mainly for skyrus but this two person are important to the story too thats why litc feel alive because its happened in real life with teenagers relationship and misunderstanding.
Right!! I mean would none of these commenters break up with their partner if they found out they started the relationship to ridicule them?
And yeah I want cirrus to be happy and overcome his traumas, but he needs to grow for that to happen. If him being happy depends on people forgiving regardless of what he does wrong, then no one wins.
And I remember when bl used to have a whole cast of characters, and conflict that couldn't be solved in just one or two chapters. Nowadays bl can have 100 chapters and it'll still only have the main couple and maybe a few minor characters. People newer readers are too used to being spoon-fed romance and only want main couple, nothing else. This author is creating a real story and a whole universe.
THIS !! I cannot believe what happened to this comment section!? I am glad for the author that this got popular but it did atract many weirdos
No one in this comments section wants character growth for cirrus, they want to coddle him and for him to have no repercussions for his actions ever and for everyone to be nice to him no matter what he does.
I love how rin is being understanding and Skylar looked back realised cirrus DID actually care for him. But their initial reactions were valid. Rins BEST FRIEND made her look like a cheater on purpose and Skylar found out the beginning of his relationship was a lie. But they both are giving cirrus the benefit of the doubt because rin understands him and Skylar knows he grew a little since then.
It's CIRRUS that should apologise but because of his traumas he withdrew from everyone thinking they abandoned him. Skylar and rin need to keep reaching out so he knows they care but cirrus also shuts out anyone in the blink of an eye. He punched skylar after they broke up, and people acted like it was skylars fault. If they reconnect, they're gonna have to meet halfway.
All these commenters remind me of when I get mad at my brother, and he gets mad at me for being mad at him. It makes no sense and is so unreasonable
EXACTLYYY these commenters r so myopic about the situation & just bandwagon for cirrus bc he has daddy issues
You forget complexity is scary :(
we feel bad for cirrus bc of everything he’s been through he didn’t just have daddy issues
Fr brah
feeling bad for him is fine, I feel bad for him too, but I’m referring to ppl who just blindly erase all the insane shit he did & act mad/surprised when ppl he victimized are upset with him
We all do but people act like because of his traumatic past that everything he does now is ok and everyone needs to be super considerate and forgive him immediately no matter what. Thats not that works. Theres something called accountability.
Of course someone with unresolved trauma could struggle to make rational decisions when under stress like cirrus, but that doesnt mean everyone has to let it slide when he does bad shit. Trauma isn't a get-out-of-jail free card. Even his friends and boyfriend arent obligated , understanding him . That's not how that works.
Rin and Skylar still understand him enough to forgive him. This is the best cirrus could ask for tbh. He did horrible shit, people reacted and they spent time to think about it and forgave him. People are acting like because they both got over it and want to reconnect with him that it means cirrus did nothing wrong in the first place.. that's crazy
no one’s asking u to just forgive him but maybe try to understand him and sympathize with him like everyone’s doing now. after chan il found out cirrus’s past, he started understanding everything that’s happened.hes not a bad person, he’s broken
so why belittle what’s he’s been through and the way he acts just “bc he has daddy issues”
That's exactly what im asking people to do... but ppl keep thinking sympathizing = excusing all bad behavior. I love cirrus and his suffering is tragic but doesn't mean I want every character to baby him when he does wrong, like most of the comment do
If you think me saying we shouldn't coddle someone when they do bad stuff just because they had a traumatic is "belitting" then idk what to tell you. By the way, I not once said "bc he had daddy issues"... that was you who brought it up in your first response to me because you lack reading comprehension.
But lemme say it one more time, you can have compassion / understanding for someone AND criticize them when they do something wrong. I think that's a hard concept for u to grasp though
now ur just yapping abt semantics bc u can’t admit you’re wrong
i didn’t bring it up ur og comment literally said “bc he has daddy issues” if u don’t know what ur arguing, don’t argue
that makes no sense lmao wanna try that again
Really? Cause I can't find the word daddy or issues in my og comment. Are you sure you aren't talking about the first comment on my post that astolfo wrote? So not only do you lack reading comprehension, you don't even know who you're arguing with
Does it not make sense to you bc you don't know what 'semantics' means or...? You keep proving you don't know how to read
I hate manhwa where there's no logic in the universe. Author has the mc treating getting raped like a minor inconvenience. I hate when they play rpe for laughs in yaoi like bro call the police instead of treating him like he's only being annoying. It would make sense if he's scared or feels threatened but here it's not even either of those things
Wait does this count as rape? I thought it was more like dubious consent since while he didn’t fully consent there was a point where the mc was like how he’ll use his hands instead
Of course it is rape, drunk people can't give consent
Duh, he was so drunk that he was sleeping on the streets, of course he didn't give consent. Plus the entire time he kept saying "no" and "stop" and various other things, even in his drunk state he never wanted this. Not that it would have mattered since he was drunk and an Inebriated person can't consent.
Exactly
He told him to stop multiple times so everything that happens there on out is rape. Also about him asking to use his hands, he asked so at the very least he could make it hurt less by prepping himself , to that the ml refused. so on top of being a rapist he did it dry with no prep just to be sadistic
Dubious consent is never when the character says no, that means there's no consent. Dubious consent is more like the character looks uncertain or like they don't want to but doesn't stop it or say no. Which is not the situation at all. And like the other comments said, when someone is drunk its automatically is rape since drunk people can't consent. But like I said he told him to stop and no like 10 times either way
I'm surprised you even asked if it counts as rape , if someone says stop or no then it's rape. If the person tries to protect themselves by trying using their hands to not get hurt, theyre comproming. It still makes it rape. It's like if someones asked a rapist to at least use a condom. Doesn't mean they're ok with it happening, they just accepted they can't get out of the situation and want the least possible suffering to come out of it
I don't like how super dumb the mc is. What about having sex or dating the white haired guy will help him get over his trauma of being called cute?? Like what even is the relation. He doesn't even question why the guy is so mad over a fake two week relationship. There's a level of naivety I can take from an mc but this is overboard.
There was a part when they were having sex when he said "he's an A student, I can trust him right?" ....brother what the fuck is the connection between good grades and whatever the fuck you two are doing i cant take this.
From the beginning the reasoning are so dumb it's not even funny anymore I can't even hate read. Bro thought agreeing to have sex with him would make him look tough
This was doomed to happen eventually, bro threatened to kill himself if he didn't date him in the first two chapters
Did bingsoo cat cafe drop this
I’m in their discord server and they said since it’s Ben picked up officially, that they will not continue. So yes, they’ve dropped it
officially as in someone confirmed they will be the one to upload or officially as in the official chapters
Ok I read to chapter 84 and im PISSED. I kept dropping, then reading then dropping this for like two years cause I got the vibe alexandros wasn't gonna have character growth. This felt like the kind of story where the FL is like 'he's changed!' after the only thing thats changed is his interest in her. So I figured alexandros wouldn't get some real growth and she'd just fall for him for his persistence. And now, after I see she goes back to the castle and hugs him and everything is just normal I wanna lose my mind cause I know I was right now.
I know the excuse is she just wants to fix royal family reputation and stuff alexandros messed up because of his crash out but it's clear she has feelings for him now? I'm not against them getting together cause this is obviously a romance but it's so annoying that when she comes back, she's not even angry with him for trying to kill her friend. She HUGS him even. He knew she wanted to leave, didn't care, then tried to kill her friend for helping her. That was the perfect time to start a redemption arc but the author is over eager and is just jumping into romance.
Like I feel robbed now. I could have liked alexandros if he got a redemption arc. The minute she returned and he was like 'I'll never let you go' I was like ah okay so he learned nothing. What are we even doing at this point. Any 'character growth' he goes through from this point is meaningless since he had zero consequences for his action and robellia just sitting here blushing at him the whole time. I got this vibe this was gonna have this kind of writing but I'm still somehow disappointed.
I'm not saying robellia has to run away again but someone pls tell me after chapter 84 does robellia at least a little pissed off that he was gonna kill the Duke? Or mad that he was gonna start a war over something he could have prevented? Or is she just blaming herself and giving him a pass as if alexandros isn't a manchild
THIS IS LONG BUT LAST THING
I HOPE MANHWA WRITERS WHO WRITE THE SAME CONCEPT WILL LEARN YOU CAN WRITE A STORY WHEN THE FL WANTS DIVORCE THAT STILL HAS GOOD ROMANCE. JUST DONT FLOP IT BY HAVING THE ML LEARN NOTHING AND PRACTICALLY FORCE FL TO STAY BY HIS SIDE!!! IF SHE WANTED TO DIVORCE HIM IN THE BEGINNING WHY WOULD SHE LOVE HIM AFTER HE REFUSES TO LET HER GO!! NOT TO MENTION AFTER PUTTING HER FRIEND ON DEATH ROW!
I must confess I was too lazy to read past the first paragraph but I’m sure you are totally right!
I'm hoping the high priest and rubella ends up together
First roses and champagne now this. They better not..
They won’t dw
Why do i feel like ur lying plewse i hope they don't actually
Nah I read the next chap and from what I read they ain’t gon do nun, but maybe some parts were left out in what I read since it ain’t like a good translation but I doubt that
Oh ok thank goodness