kalluuuto✿'s Topics (22)

Not to mention that he literally gave zero shit about consent once he's got him in bed which is disgusting and it's just so grossly annoying that people turn a blind eye to that shit

I really want to drop it but I want to see who it ends lol

you were right

Agreed.

"cain annoying the couple"???? uhm what? i think yahwi should move the fuck on after all he's done to jooin, LITERALLY AFTER SO MUCH! and now that there's a third character who comforts jooin and treats him well for once yall say its annoying?? like?? yea go stay with your toxic daddy whos (not to forgot) a rapist uwu

Agreed

shut up. please just shut up with the rapist uwu shit. stfu. i hate almost all charachters now expect for cain, i actually love him really much he's so cute and gentle but I won't blind myself from the fact that he came out of nowhere even if he's my fav cause that's what yall stupid bitches do. Forget that we don't know shit about him, what about his intention as a friend, like i wanted him to be a good friend for jooin but it's supposed to be romance i guess

and can yall stop handling jooin like a 12 year old, he should be able to get his shit together without anyone, he's grown up don't baby him. i loved him really much at the start but his stupidity as a grown university student is sending me to mars like why do you still hang out with yahwi....

I think is more than that, because I don’t think they are understanding each other, they both want the other to understand by putting themselves on their shoes but are not doing it. This is causing them both to see the other as selfish for only thing of themselves. Also Jiwook is misunderstanding Seungeon’s interest, he still thinks that because he has money he is able to buy anything and anyone. Jiwook doesn’t want to be bought, but it’s all a misunderstanding of each other. At least that’s how I interpret this situation.

well, jiwook is older (19) but he's still pretty young, while seungeon is a fawkin teenager born in a rich family.... what do you expect from him? lmao, he needs to grow up to know that money isn't everything, even tho it's not seungeon saying money is everything, it's more like jiwook, he's studying his ass off for money- he also said he doesn't give a fuc about love and money & grades are more important

My point exactly, they are full of thoughts the both of them they just need to really listen to each other but Jiwook won’t even try, I think is because of the thought of being poor is blinding him of the truth that is the real world. Like you said he needs to grow up, but he thinks if he studies hard he will have everything he needs. Let’s just hope they work on themselves and soon fix this. If I’m being honest I don’t like when couples are just not meant to be like when they truly heart each other to a point of not fixing it and still end up together hope they are not one of this couples.

well if they're not meant to be, then that explains the title "even if you don't love me" lmao-

you cant tell people with trauma how to deal with their trauma. we have different ways of coping mechanisms. for the uke, it's most likely to be like that. he doesn't know who will hurt him and who will take care of him. so he's relying on his way to protect his self. it's just like the phrase "men are trash." i mean, yes not all men, but it's enough "men" to say that men are trash. hence, his views on people around him is like that. because "enough" person (his father) made him like that. he developed that extreme trauma in such a young age. he didnt even experience being guided in what should be right and wrong. that's why the way he acts is like that. it can also be something elese. but for people with traumas, they cope with it with the ways they know. i hope you get it.

I wish i could like your comment, the way you explained it was so perfect

trauma is an explanation, but not an excuse. hurting others who have done nothing wrong is still not ok, when he was a kid it wasn’t his fault but now that he's an adult it’s his responsibility to get help

yes, you are right. trauma is not an excuse. but as i said, we have different ways of coping and protecting ourselves. in his case, that's his way. do you understand his character? maybe if he knows that there's really someone who wants to protect him and not harm him, he will act differently. maybe if he ever found someone (while he was still young) that will guide him to the right direction, he wont be like that. but who can do that when he has trust issues (you can also see that in his character)? so all those "maybes" are nothing to him because the people around him makes him uncomfortable and he thinks that they all just want to touch him. also, he can seek psychological therapy, yes. it's his responsibility to make sure that his metal health is in check. but does he even have money? can his current life manage to afford it?

But you’re acting like he wants to be mean he knows his uncle is in debt and took him in but he didn’t know his intention along with the trauma he has it makes it harder to trust so I know it’s not an excuse but get off of him because he just trying to cope with it

if it's sangwoo or seungho you exact same people come and tell me trauma isn't a excuse but here you using it as an excuse, pls-

bro, the case of mc here is way way different from sangwoo and seungho's case. the latter has trauma and other (extreme?) mental disorders. it is not the same. they are not the same. seungho and sangwoo's case are not just because of trauma. there are other factors that affected them to be what they are in their current "life". and i am not using mc's trauma to excuse his behavior. im just saying that he has different ways of dealing with his trauma. that he chose the choice that is different from yours or other ppl. that's why we have differences. every people's situation differs from each other. there are not "same" situation. but there are "similar" situation. there may be similar situation between mc here and sangwoo and seungho, but their cases are different. if you dont understand the characters here, just say you dont understand them. dont push what you want to other people.

i didn't push anything on you, you replied to me bruh. And i didn't talk about sangwoo and seungho's case being the same as him, i said YOU are the SAME persons who come and say it's not an excuse but use it as one yourself. Of course trauma is different, but in the end it's still trauma. Seungho grew up with an abusive homophobic dad that took him as "sick" for being gay. Anyways this, seems familiar right? it's almost same shit as the mc here. He became abusive and didn't trust anyone and saw them as sex toys and this mc came to like abuse and is the same with the other points.

Smh you must have a Great Fucking life since you obviously can’t see his point of view

my life could be the shitiest, i had an abusive shit dad too that i suffered from so much that i left my country and can never go back again, in another country now everyone is being racist against you. Best life, yeah?

Well I can’t flee and I had an abusive step mother yea and my dad treats me like shit

Fr i think in general if its the seme that is mean, everyone is hating on him but if it comes to uke, everyone feels sorry
It not only this manhwa I could name at least 2

Ikr thank you that what I’ve been trying to tell people

that was what i was saying too but you were against me oh well whatever i don't understand