MISSMERCY's Topics (413)

me too. i think if namhae is 20 and woosung hyung is 27 i will support them hehe. i love age gap but when both parties are adults

I saw the raws, I can see their relationship having developments.
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Why is this toxic...smh...are we reading the same thing...

Why is this toxic... why is this toxic? Are you okay? ARE we reading the same thing? Black hair guy (forgot his name) literally quit his job and got a whole new career just so he could meet blonde hair guy and see him at his lowest. What about that is not toxic! and that’s just the tip of the iceberg

Blonde hair guy literally raped black hair guy and black hair guy is obsessed with blonde hair guy and wants to OWN him. Need I say more?

Jfc... are you a child...or is your dictionary contain only 2 or 3 words... you call that toxic?? This is a psychological manhwa. Read stalker's game and then compare it to this "toxicity" smh. It's bound to be about twisted characters who aren't "fictionally" perfect bastards...that doesn't mean it's "toxic" you aren't reading it with your brain open. Can't blame you either...the translation is shit...whatever. stop reading it if it's "toxic" the rest of us who enjoy the story and characters will read it instead

Smh...I wont bother explaining why he did it or why their relationship is complicated and etc but go off. Go read some shoujo shit

I know it’s a psychological manwha and I know the characters aren’t supposed to be perfect. Where in any of my comments did I make it seem like I wasn’t enjoying the story or I didnt understand that it was a psychological manwha. in my original comment I was just wondering whether it would stay like this for the whole story or whether they’re relationship would get healthier and I specifically said ‘either way i’ll enjoy it’, maybe reading and comprehension isn’t your strong point. You sound like one of those ppl who believe that you’re the only one who understands a piece of work talking about ‘I won’t bother explaining why their relationship is complicated’ what bullshit. A relationship where one wants to own another and control his every move, where one was raped, where they call each other slurs like ‘homo’, where there are signs of unhealthy possessiveness. You’re tryna tell me that’s not what toxic is? I don’t care if stalkers game is even worse that doesn’t mean this still isn’t a toxic relationship, that’s not how life works bro that’s like saying it’s not that bad I get beat once a week cuz I know someone who gets beat 5 times a week (using an analogy to help u understand :) )

Anyways I said what I said and I meant what I said, next time face your front and stop causing arguments when there’s no argument to be had kmt

It did sound like you were giving up on the story because of how toxic it was/is?
Not everyone bl that is psychological tagged is about "toxicity" it's very inaccurate to describe their relationship or the characters with this...
Soohyun suffers from self-esteem issues, a false sense of pride, and his desire to control eunsung is masked with his actual desire to be with him (which you will eventually see) because he's been conditioned by everyone around him how eunsung is untouchable because he's so perfect, if they are "equals" at last. He wants to see eunsung on his level which he believes is being trampled down by his existence. Also in every relationship, there is push and pull, and both partners want to control the other to some extent (like not every relationship is completely healthy since people are individually unique and compromise with the flaws of the other because they love them not love them because they're perfect) just because someone is flawed doesn't make them toxic.

As for your point of eunsung raping soohyun, yes he forced himself on him halfway, but it will be revealed on later why he did it. After that time, Soohyun is the one who has initiated all their sex, and moreover it wasn't a indicator of how toxic eunsung is (because he isn't) but that he did it in order for soohyun to hate him and stay away from him and this old pervert problem. Otherwise he would have forced him time and time again. But he didn't. Moreover he gave himself to soohyun to control without a fight....wtf is toxic about that? Their dynamic is complicated.
Also the translation for this manhwa is terrible. He didn't call him homo per say, but he does swear a lot (fucker, motherfucker etc)
Their relationship isn't toxic, so yes, you do need to reread it for it is and not what psychological bl typically is.
Stalkers game was the epitome of a toxic/unconventional relationship. The point of this author isn't to write about perfect sappy relationships. Though this one is definitely not toxic. You just can't see it.

Your not understanding what i’m saying.... I am not looking for perfect sappy relationships. I get the point of the story. I understand the depth of their characters and why their dynamic is complicated. I just don’t understand why you insist that they’re relationship isn’t toxic when it just is. Maybe there’s a disconnect on what you think toxic means. Toxic by definition means very harmful or unpleasant in a pervasive or insidious way. I really don’t care whatever the reason eunsung raped him is the fact is that he did it (I guess that’s not really toxic it’s just....wrong lol) but what is toxic is that soohyun wants to control eunsung, what you said about that sense of control and push and pull being in every relationship is very very true but eunsung has spent his whole life living for other people, doing things for other people. Do you think what he needs right now is soohyun trying to control his every single move?You don’t think that’s harmful for him in an insidious way? Even if eunsung gave himself willingly it’s still toxic cuz it’s still harmful for him and his mental health. Toxicity is about the little things. It’s the way they swear at each other and the way they always try and one up each other which usually isn’t that deep but these two have problems so it is that deep. I feel like this is something that doesn’t need to be explained. Throughout the whole thing to far they’re constantly giving each other little cuts with their words and actions. The story is literally called checkmate because they’re trying to put each other in a position where the other is powerless with subtle yet meaningful and hurtful moves. That is what toxicity is.
I think they actually like each other, but they’re personal problems and insecurities are getting in the way and even if they do actually like each other, that doesn’t mean they’re not toxic
I understand the characters are flawed, we are all flawed cuz we are human but it’s soohyuns flaws: his insecurities and his desire to drag eunsung down to his level and the joy he feels when eunsung is at his lowest are leading him to act in a toxic way, same with eunsung but for different reasons.

I still feel like this debate was unnecessary and pointless. I wasn’t bashing their relationship dynamic or the author in anyway. I saw toxic so I said toxic. period

I don't agree it's toxic at all since they aren't actually in a "relationship" atm. It is nuanced and complicated since they haven't actually expressed their feelings.
Soohyun saying he wants to control eunsung is something, but eunsung actually being controlled is something else. Which isn't happening. He gives himself over to soohyun on his own will (probably he knows soohyun actually isnt toxic, just needs him to look at him- he wants his attention and approval)
You'll see in the upcoming chapters how eunsung will take a stand when he hears actually what soohyun was thinking "people like you people like me" delusion he has...eunsung doesn't know soohyun"s brain is working in such extremes. But even after he does, he still doesn't want to stop being with him.
They're not toxic, they're flawed. Your definition of toxicity is so childish lol. Swearing? Trying to one up? Of course. They aren't dating. They've been rivals. It's that kind of relationship right now. Your standards for "toxicity" are so low.
And if reasons why they do what they do don't matter, what's even the point of reading a story...just make your judgements and leave.

Also eunsung isn't trying to bring down soohyun at all. He's just sitting back and watching soohyun try all his little games because in the end he knows why soohyun is being like this - however he does step up and comfort or tease him or even stop him when he's going too far by being reckless. Just the fact you said eunsung is like that proves you don't know what toxic means or even this story is like

They’re not in a romantic relationship but they’re defo in a relationship of some kind and any type of relationship can be toxic. Don’t tell me that whole they’re rivals shit, they’re relationship is more twisted than any old rivalry. Also why do you keep mentioning stuff I haven’t even got to yet - when that time comes they’re relationship dynamic will shift till then I say they’re toxic. At the end when I said ‘same with eunsung’ I meant that his flaws are also leading him to act in a slightly toxic way - soohyuns mostly the problem here
And I never said the reasons why don’t matter, I said the reasons are leading to toxicity- they go hand in hand. Your comprehension is failing u once again

I was just wondering where this relationship was going and you came here with your opinion on toxicity that nobody asked for, telling me to make my judgements and leave when you’re the one replying under my own comment. I still think they’re relationship is toxic - what are you gonna do? Fight me? make YOUR judgements and leave
You think my standards of toxicity are childish and low, that’s nice, agree to disagree and get out of my notifications

How immature are you lol. They aren't in a relationship, they're acquainted yet in the story so no relationship at all. Your standards of toxicity aside, it isn't accurate since it debased what's actually going on - soohyun trying to control eunsung and eunsung actually being controlled is different (which isn't happening at all) so how is it toxic? It's all just empty words...also eunsung agreed it on it on his own volition (partly because he knows soohyun isn't toxic like that. Who is actually controlling and crazy manipulative is park munseop bastard... not eunsung) Aside from their first meeting, he's done nothing to force anything on soohyun so I don't get you're concluding he's toxic.
Even till the story is going (I had to infer the future chapters anyway) this isn't toxic so your definition of it is clearly too far fetched.
You haven't read stalkers game have you? Kidnapping someone, being obsessed to the point of insanity, making them dependent on you and cutting off all connections is toxic and manipulative...eunsung and soohyun are mutually helping each other out. Just because they aren't fluffy goody two shoes doesn't make them toxic.
But if you wanna be blind and ignore the actual story and characters, go ahead.