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++ I know that Hiiragi said “Wait, I hate this, it’s scary” IT IS bothersome that Shizu still kept going, but we must remember that consent in japan is fucked up and different to what’s normalized and morally right in other countries.

wait i worded it wrong;; **morally right in general.

But still I hope we all know that and wish that Kizu-sensei will give us a good communication after they finish banging

Who said it was non consensual though people are exaggerating

this!!!!

People on Instagram and Twitter are complaining because of how Shizu ,,attacked" Hiiragi and how he doesn't stop when Hiiragi said "wait',,, I just want to give a heads up since people might attack my horny boy when it's uploaded here （/TДT)/

I'm pretty sure those party pooper will come here too when ch 41 uploaded.. Just don't react or give them any attention to it.
We just need to know that Hiiragi wants it as much as Shizu, he's the one offering himself first.. And Shizu asked for consent twice

He asked him multiple times if he's okay with it and made sure to make it clear what's gonna happen if that's not asking for consent i Don't know what is ┑(￣Д ￣)┍ hiiragi might have been too much of a snowflake though , acting all down for it when he's a scared little kitten (⌒▽⌒)

Well yeah, it's his first time so that's understandable. Besides it's like very common for sex scene in yaoi to include "wait! Stop! It hurts" etc but they actually didnt want it to stop.
The translator on twitter explains that for japanese, those words aren't considered an act of nonconsent, unless one of them really express reluctance..

It's those complaining readers that are the snowflakes here ╮(￣▽￣)╭

But objectively speaking Don't y'all think they rushed into it like we don't know for sure if they went all the way but it's like the author wanted to get it over with

Hmm given the context of this manga… shizu has been in love w hiragi for ages. Hiragi has been in love w him for ages. Let’s not forget they are like 17? Teenage hormones and all. It’s very normal for them to explode with passion the minute their feelings come together on the same wavelength. Pretty sure they will have good pillow talk later on and communicate things better. I trust kizu sensei to do right by all of us

As an outsider, maybe, but if I put myself on Shizuragi, not really. Shizu made it clear before what he wanted also included sex (putting it in)
I've read ch 41 a few times and Hiiragi gives off the feeling he understood what they would do and he offered himself (He said if you want me I'll give you all of me)
It is implied heavily they did it all the way..
But if Sensei wants to wrap their story for now it's also possible, since Ritsumafu still had lots to unpack and a chapter takes 2 months to release...
I won't be surprised if after this we focus back on Ritsumafu and just see Shizuragi dating days alongside their debut. Tho I hope we still get shizuragi focus chapter in the future

Oh i hope to god the author doesn't wrap their thing off already , there's a lot of them i want to see

It was not consensual at the end, yes shizu ask him many time if he was on, but at the end hiiragi want him to stop/wait

Ready*

I don't agree with that though that's what you believe but according to some japanese readers who translated that those words are not synonyms for " i don't want to" but more like being hesitant and not sure

Just wait till you read a good translation.
It's no longer spoiler anymore I guess since lots of us already read it. But just in case...
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When shizu's finger entered him he really asked, "yamerou?" or "stop?" then hiiragi snapped sth as in don't keep asking me, baka! I won't stop.....then he saw Shizu's face who is so hungry and he got surprised since he nvr saw him like that.. He said Shizu's face is scary.. Scary... And most readers start to interpret this as nonconsensual afterwards. But Hiiragi nvr said "I don't want to" or "lemme go" or "get off me"

Yes, but when you are not sure or hesitant, your partners need to stop,
I’m agree that hiiragi was ready and want to do it ! But at the end he was very very scared
They should stop

I understand but, at the end hiiragi was not ready to do it, shizu face make him really really uncomfortable, he should have stopped
https://twitter.com/tatasenkomana/status/1400816184887480325?s=21

Maybe the word « non consensual » is not the right word because it’s not like chapter 20 but it’s still very uncomfortable to read

Yeah that’s true but they’re 16-17. Hormornes all over the place + shizu clearly told hiragi that he can’t control himself and got the consent. And I think hiragi got uncomfortable/ shocked bc he had never seen this side of shizu before. And I do feel like if he genuinely wanted to stop, he would push him off or make an action or explicitly say no. In the afterglow we do see shizu looking so content as well. I’m sure kizu sensei will give us a good pillow talk session bc we need to understand where they shizu came from.

But it’s not excuse ? Hormone, shizu or not
He should have stop, after hiiragi told him that he was scared

You know what you actually made me rethink it and i think you are right in that aspect and chizu should have stopped when hiiragi was asking him to wait and chizu was being selfish when he didn't he's like couldn't wait to have his hands on hiiragi like some sort of an obsession he had for him for so long so ..I'm not saying he forced him into it but it was abit pushy

Japanese media is really different to western media so some panels may seem very uncomfortable for others. If you haven't seen this explanation, I suggest that you should read it~

https://twitter.com/marutsukete/status/1398126817794433026
https://twitter.com/marutsukete/status/1398127548991565825

I did
But it’s doesn’t change the fact the shizu should stop
That all

I understand where you're coming from and I respect that. Japanese media is really diverse and we can't really change that even if we want to. It's really up to us if we read the new chapter or not. I'm hoping that Natsuki-sensei won't make their relationship like Akihiko and Haruki (i still love them though) (〜￣△￣)〜

Dude i gave it a thought and you're right chizu was being selfish and he shouldn't have gone all the way when hiiragi asked him to , cause i went over the chapter again and there's one scene when you can see hiiragi' s hand in a pushing motion though it's not 100% but that made me change my mind

Thanks for respecting my opinion ^^
Personally I don’t like akiharu relationship, it’s seems yk very rushed but I really hope that’s it’s not going to be the same for shizu and hiiragi, I love before this chapter their relationship, Kizu really need to fix that ╥﹏╥

Yes he was selfish
Shizu get what he want for a LONG LONG time, he litteraly said himself « Do you understand what you are saying to a thirsty man » shizu want him since many years, but he fucked up, Im waiting for the next chapter, but my opinion about their development isn’t going to change