Biggie Cheese

Ik what you mean, but this is mahwa, which is from Korea. Korean dont really learn about western culture, and some might even think that dark skinned is ugly. Maybe the author is just trying to appease the Korean readers, idk man. Like sorry to say this but most korean are uneducated about dark-skinned people irl e.g. black people and the culture, thus many k-idols appropriated the black culture. Am i making sense? I hope i do

Koreans aren’t dumb. Even if they’re on a different continent they know about western culture and about black people and our history .They even have their own slur for black people, so don’t treat them as if they’re ignorant about things outside of their country.

Well you’re right about koreans aren’t dumb but some of them chose to be ignorant. I also talked about how the author wanted to appease to korean readers, as many of them view fair skinned as the beauty standard. If u go to yt, u can see many k-idols ignorant (which is not a good thing) about black people and even uses the n-word slur on tv shows. It shows that SOME of them are ignorant and when confronted, they chose not to address it and continue to appropriate black culture.

Look, im not defending koreans as ive said many times some of them are ignorant okay. Just saying from my pov as an asian.

moe i really dont get what you're tying to say. 'I'm not trying to defend korean ppls racism guys ok?' *proceeds to try and excuse the authors racism and colorism and generalize korean people*
Like, there are black people that live in korea. And blasian people. And dark skinned korean people
There's colorism and racism....LITERALLY everywhere. There's no excuse for being ignorant bruv idk why you're trying so hard to make the authors racism and colorism normal just cause they are korean
(BTW, if a poc sees that i've said anything wrong, or may have said a microagression please tell me. like i'm white the people who should be centered in this convo should be poc voices and i don't want to talk over poc)

Hey there, i wasnt giving authors excuses. The original topic was about dark skinned people and i was just giving my opinions as to why i think the author portrays dark skinned people like that. Idk anymore, if u still think im defending the author, sure do that. I said my part and thats that.

Pretty sure author isn't racist lol just by having diff skin colors characters doesn't mean author is racist. Just like how in American movies if they have Asians as evil characters does tht mean theyre racist? no. lol it's nothing srs I think you're thinking too much about the manhwa meanwhile author means no harm or try to be racist

Man so true

I just read the whole thing u said bc i couldnt be bothered to read it. Im poc btw. An asian at that.

Child even if the prince was another colour he still would have been the bad boy cause even before we know how much or a slimeball he is ;we know from the start he was trash and we already know who was the garbage over the Duke it was pretty crystal clear . Also not all brown skin is bad boy check out "Under the Oak Tree" the ML isnt a bad boy but he 's just read it

Can I just say, the trope for good parent/guardian and "bad child" isn't exactly off in this story. And he's not a bad person. Yeah he's made mistakes countless times but he's been spoiled to death. Not to mention, the title of the only Prince as well as Crown Prince probably got to his head.
He could have everything and anything he wanted. That's how he grew up. So why wouldn't he do as he pleased? His father, the Emperor, probably never taught him what was right and what was wrong.
I grew up with a shitty parent that tried to kill me three times but am I following in his footsteps? Nope.
There are many sides to human beings. We are complex. And i think his situation is a bit more complex. Yeah, he got really annoying, but I understand his actions just by seeing how his father is. Doesnt make father a good or bad person, but he does need to be held responsible for spoiling his kid so much. Well it was mentioned that his wife died early, so it makes sense that he spoiled the prince. *sighs*

I was talking about the good parent/bad kid trope cause it seemed the author was trying really hard to get us to sympathize with the dad :/ and it does make sense why the prince acts this way cause his dad didn't raise him right and spoiled him. And I wasn't saying that like, bad parent = bad kid, and good parent = good kid, I'm sorry if it came off like that. And I also hope that, if you haven't already, you'll be able to escape your abuser and gotten the help and love you deserve.

It's just that, usually, whenever i see the trope it isn't explained WHY the kid is bad, and the parent is absolved from all responsibility.

Also, I'm not saying that if he was white he wouldn't be a 'bad boy'. No matter his skin color, he would've been the antagonist with the way the story's set up. I'm just saying that there's a weird trend with making 'bad boy' or 'play boy' characters have darker skin.

Hmm i see where you are coming from. If it was a story about the Crown Prince, maybe it would explain more not only about how he grew up but also about his father. Unfortunately this isnt his story lol. That would be interesting to see for a story. Like a redemption story (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
And i was addressing the trope you mentioned. You talked about "good parent = bad child" not being explained in the story. I was just giving my take on it.
Or at least the author trying to get us to empathize with the emperor. If anything, i empathize more the crown prince.
Good person does not equal good parent in my opinion. Legitimately good parenting is hard to find and being a parent is one of the hardest things to do.

Also thank you （/TДT)/ im an adult now so I lived past the age of 20 which I thought I would die at cuz of that parent. Im alright. So thank you haha.

U make a fair point

this. good person does not equal good parent. parenting is a hard job that no one really knows how to do well. his father may have been a good and wise king. but that is different from being an excellent father. for one thing, as a king, he probably wouldn't have had much time to spare actually being a father. and he lost his wife early on. even less parenting for the prince. and it's common for parents who feel their child has lost something important, to try too hard to give them everything, over spoil them, under discipline them, and end up failing to raise them to be good and independent people.

actually i have a relative who was with an abusive man for years. she eventually divorced him. he was not a good role model for their kids. even after the divorce, she felt guilty for ruining the kids' childhood. she'd give them anything they wanted, never punish them or get after them. the kids ended up taking on the abuser's role and continue to rely on her financially as adults.

perhaps the thing when people say how could such a good parent end up with such a bad kid, is they are putting too much stock in genetics. they expect someone to be just as good, smart, and strong as their parents. as if that was all that goes into it.