Qui Li October 6, 2024 4:37 pm

I'm glad they talked but JJ is still scheduled to leave. They'll definitely do the long distance dating thing though, cause at the beginning JJ did say that he felt that they needed to be apart to have a better relationship. So him going to Germany is going to accomplish that, with JJ having the opportunity to be himself and stop catering 100% to Leo, while Leo learns how to care for himself and how to go on without JJ being there constantly.

So happy for them though. ┗( T﹏T )┛

Qui Li September 29, 2024 7:13 pm

Fuck everyone in this story broooooooooooo

MC is obviously a cheater with a terrible attitude. ML began an affair (he knew MC was in a relationship before the reveal about his son) and then continued said affair after it turned out his son was dating MC.
The son doesn't get a pass either, yes he got cheated on but cheating isn't the answer either. We know MC and ML are trash but the son was terrible as well, because rather than sitting down and seriously discussing the relationship or breaking it off he cheats. Sure he was being cheated on and didn't know, but that's even worse no? He saw his bf was being distant and cold but decided that the best course of action was instead to cheat? Maybe his bf was going through something but his first instinct was to fuck the guy giving him attention. Again, knowing the MC is trash doesn't actually make the son any better. I was rooting for the son but honestly, he's trash too.

Qui Li September 29, 2024 3:36 pm

See, I don't hate Leo. Actually, I think he's kinda cute, but man, he took too long and I'm unsure if he truly understands the reasons for their breakup.

Leo apologized but it was vague and had lots of "I'm hurting". When you apologize you take responsibility for your actions, he really hasn't so far. Maybe they'll go into it more next chapter, so I'll wait for the final judgment.

Also, even if they come to an understanding, it's too late. JJ has already signed everything and is packed to go, they'll still separate because JJ can't just break the new contract now. Which wouldn't be a problem if Leo had set his ego aside earlier, during the many months JJ pushed back talks about the new contract and still held out hope. Because surprise, not only one person has to carry the emotional weight of a relationship.

    Qui Li September 29, 2024 3:44 pm

    BTW this is me saying they may be able to talk things out next chapter, but they'll still spend time apart to further mature. Both have their roles in the breakup and they truly need to be given time apart to develop as individuals (especially Leo) so they can return to each other at a healthier state.

    winter September 29, 2024 3:56 pm

    I totally understand what ur saying and i agree but i would have to disagree on the part where u said leo doesn’t understand the reason in which they broke up
    There was part when he was apologizing and he said “you put up with everything … no that’s not it I was at fault I’m sorry”
    I feel like there
    Thats a sign of growth and character development
    Leo IS LEARNING and i feel like once jj communicates his feelings
    And they have some type of conversation,
    Then leo will be able understand jj more
    And jj will know then to communicate his feelings properly

    I do also agree with u that they will def spend time apart
    Cause again he did sign that contract

    winter September 29, 2024 3:59 pm
    I totally understand what ur saying and i agree but i would have to disagree on the part where u said leo doesn’t understand the reason in which they broke upThere was part when he was apologizing and he sai... winter

    Lemme just add this before any future people want to attack me for having an opinion
    I AM A NEUTRAL READER
    so im not a LEO FAN HATE JJ
    OR A JJ FAN HATE LEO
    NO.

Qui Li September 24, 2024 12:30 am

I hope that the authors goes through with the something being off here vibe. 'Cause in most other stories having other ppl weight in about how they perceived the ml's actions would make the MC immediately start to change their mind. Like "omg I misunderstood and he actually loves me!" But here, the MC not only doubts what everyone else says, he feels that something is off completely. Because from the brief pov we get from the ml we can tell he mostly feels possessiveness, he's not in love and he just wants to keep the MC by his side through any means. Maybe the ml will fall in love in the future, but for now, all he feels is that he needs to make sure the MC only relies on him. I'm just praying that it gets explored and not brushed off, cause we know that the ml is an asshole for sure.

Qui Li September 22, 2024 6:35 pm

It irks me so badly that Leo gets so many passes because "he's a little guy! He's ditzy! He didn't mean it!" You do know that doing something without thinking is sometimes worse than knowingly doing so, right? Leo is a grown ass man like JJ is, he doesn't need every little thing to be spelt out for him. Not that it's hard to understand JJ either, because everyone sees it. JJ feels that Leo does not value him in their relationship. He literally says it when he asks Leo "do you see me as your boyfriend?" Leo keeps asking what he did wrong and why did they break up, but he never stops to think about what JJ has told him. He barely registered that JJ was not happy in the relationship, that JJ hasn't smiled for a while.

Had to split up my posts to find which one was being dumb lol

    Loveichigo September 22, 2024 7:01 pm

    finally someone in the comments who sees things as they are and not by their feelings of a poor smallie uke. JJ for sure did wrong not expressing his feelings, but damn, Leo did the worst. I can say JJ woprst error is the rape scene , but i will just delete that chapter from my mind, cause it was unneccessary and out of character.

    Loveichigo September 22, 2024 7:02 pm
    finally someone in the comments who sees things as they are and not by their feelings of a poor smallie uke. JJ for sure did wrong not expressing his feelings, but damn, Leo did the worst. I can say JJ woprst e... Loveichigo

    as for the rest, the people who are on Leo side, are the same people who fight with their lovers because they forgot to say "good night" to them. Hypocrites

    Qui Li September 22, 2024 7:12 pm
    as for the rest, the people who are on Leo side, are the same people who fight with their lovers because they forgot to say "good night" to them. Hypocrites Loveichigo

    Yeahhh, that what my original post was gonna be about. Many of those that excuse Leo's more negative or toxic traits probably also expect their lovers to follow them around and don't see anything wrong with it. Cause yeah JJ did a very bad thing, but that doesn't automatically erase the fact that Leo has essentially been using JJ - not even going into the fact that Leo has coerced JJ into sex as well like we see in the beginning.

Qui Li September 22, 2024 6:27 pm

We don't actually know if JJ has expressed his feelings before! So many assume that JJ hasn't because we haven't seen it, but I'm sure that's gonna be answered soon. Based on information we do have, it seems JJ has made an effort to fix the relationship and to talk about it but Leo has ignored him, but that's not confirmed yet either! The point being, we don't know yet and all these Leo supporters immediately turn to placing all the blame on JJ no matter how much evidence is shown about Leo's actions. JJ didn't communicate, but Leo did so much more too! He also didn't communicate, ignored JJ's feelings, made plans with friends over his boyfriend yet expected his boyfriend to make time for him only, coerced JJ into having sex, accused JJ of sleeping with others based on the fact that he merely talks to some other guy?????, put his ego ahead of his relationship, etc.

Qui Li September 22, 2024 6:15 pm

Hello! Can anyone see my posts?! I keep trying and nothing shows up (⊙…⊙ )

    jjaxson September 22, 2024 6:19 pm

    Yeah

    Qui Li September 22, 2024 6:22 pm

    None of my long posts show up ╥﹏╥

    Meow Nyann September 22, 2024 6:26 pm
    None of my long posts show up ╥﹏╥ Qui Li

    Certain words are blocked and muted on this website LoL I learned that the hard way

    Qui Li September 22, 2024 6:27 pm
    Certain words are blocked and muted on this website LoL I learned that the hard way Meow Nyann

    Bruhhhhhhhhhh ┗( T﹏T )┛

    Pure Fujoshi✨✨✨ September 22, 2024 7:05 pm

    For me it was emoji ,if i use any emoji my post get cut off and i almost gone into a war for this with people misunderstanding my comment ╥﹏╥

Qui Li September 22, 2024 1:43 am

Am I really the only one not bothered by the tattoo????? Like to me it isn't ugly or anything.

Qui Li September 15, 2024 6:18 pm

I like the manga but there's a lot missing here:

First, the relationship btw Sigurd and Julliette is less weird than you'd think (not that you have to love it lol). It doesn't explain it well here but in the novel, it's explained that they never had a particularly good or close relationship when younger because their dad would favor Juliette. At some point when younger, Sigurd left the family to train as a soldier. He was taken under Jolga's wing and he even wanted to be Jolga's son (unknowing of his parentage at the time). He also hated his father and sister and basically considered them strangers because of everything he heard about them. They were evil in his eyes, and he wasn't happy about being Juliette's guard at the beginning because he thought he would have to go through hell because of them. However, due to Juliette being instructed by their father to just be nice (as she had always been encouraged to be mean and spoiled to get ahead) Sigurd began to have a better relationship with Juliette. Is it still weird? To some yes to others no, but in the manga it is harder to tell that they weren't really raised thinking of each other as close/family, especially when Sigurd left for the military to escape the family.

Second, Jolga is a bit dumb but also he's working with the limited/fake information he knows. Here's the thing, Jolga has basically made up an image of Andrim that is this tragic yet lovely figure because, unlike in the original story, the information that is revealed is twisted in a way that not only makes sense but embellishes Andrim - someone he hated because he was the opposite of what Jolga believes in. Like he now genuinely believes that him and Andrim could have been friends based on the lies Andrim "revealed" - such as "taking on the role of a villain" to save Jolga's fiancee or to protect the crown. Jolga believes now that Andrim actually is more of a representation of his beliefs, and he admires this version of Andrim. Jolga believes that Andrim is just misunderstood, but he also finds himself being attracted to Andrim. He feels like he's the only one able to see the real Andrim and that pushes his possessiveness as well. So when Andrim let's Jolga sleep with him, Jolga begins to fall even harder, because he feels like he could be the one to protect the "poor and lovely victim of loyalty". The circus thus becomes a form for Andrim to test how far Jolga would go to protect Andrim despite what actual evil stuff Andrim reveals to Jolga. (Keep in mind, Andrim doesn't reveal the truth about the past events, he just reveals that he did take revenge out on the prince's fiancee (Nasha) by selling off her family.)

The Circus is a shit show btw. First, Nasha makes a fool of herself because she has no royal training, so she acts out during the show. Second, the after show. It's essentially a betting ring, where beasts are forced to fight to the death. If the beast you choose wins, you win the beast's offspring. The thing is that the priestess' family receives a monetary award for their daughter being the priestess. However, the priestess doesn't have to be aware of this, and Nasha and Marie weren't aware of this. So Nasha and Marie believed Nasha was merely kidnapped, but their family accepted the money and used it to save the life of their son. However, because Nasha and Julliette traded places, the church needed the money back from Nasha's family. In the original timeline, this is resolved bc no one likes Andrim or Malaki, them trying to take the money back backfires and they get in trouble and the debt is cleared. In this timeline, Andrim and Malaki are more secretive about taking the money back, so they end up selling the family to cover the costs. The parents are sold as labor slaves and the children are sold to the circus as slaves. More specifically, Nasha's sisters are sold to be breeding partners to the beasts while her younger brother was sold off as a sex slave. Yeah, Andrim is evil. Basically, Andrim reveals what he did when it can't be changed anymore, so Jolga has a choice to arrest/kill Andrim for his evil actions or to accept him as he truly is (vindictive and evil). Of course, Jolga is in too deep of love with Andrim and accepts him, becoming a bit corrupt himself. Third, there's Malaki and Lytro action. It's very emotional because Malaki has never had anyone genuinely care about him and he has an emotional connection with Lytro that he's never had before due to everyone using him for his body. During this, we see Nasha's younger brother also being "trained" so that's a horrible thing. And Nasha's sisters get pregnant by the winning beast too.

The Circus arc is a whole thing, but it probably will also be lacking context based on the rest of the manga, so that's a bit fo information I can provide. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Yellow September 15, 2024 6:33 pm

    Do you know where to read the novel?

    Theystolemyname September 15, 2024 7:06 pm

    Sheeeesh, the circus arc is really a whole ass circus
    On another note, I didn't find the relationship between Juliette and Sigurd to be *that* off-putting. I think it was pretty clear in the manga too, that they didn't have much relationship, and Sigurd didn't like her, and wanted Jorga to be his dad (he got what he wanted, lol), not to mention that he was running behind the prince's tail like a puppy. Later, Andrim said that he didn't much spend time with him, and was instead raising Juliette, which pretty much translates into Juliette and Sigurd not spending time with eachother. And while to us it's wild to call someone "brother" or "sister" and have a romantic relationship with them, it's not used strictly between actual siblings in japan.
    Altough I do wish they would stop saying "brother" and "sister", pls just use names

    Qui Li September 15, 2024 10:33 pm
    Sheeeesh, the circus arc is really a whole ass circus On another note, I didn't find the relationship between Juliette and Sigurd to be *that* off-putting. I think it was pretty clear in the manga too, that the... Theystolemyname

    Lmao, I do understand about the brother/sister name calling. It doesn't translate well into english.

    I guess I'm more so explaining it to those who are confused and needed the summaries. There's a lot of ppl who don't understand the plot well or who are in the comments talking about "how can someone you see as a sibling be a lover?" When it's the fact that Sigurd and Julliette never really developed that sibling relationship that made it possible for them to fall in love, especially after the revelation that Sigurd was Jorga's son.

    Qui Li September 15, 2024 10:33 pm
    Do you know where to read the novel? Yellow

    Novel Updates, but you most will need an account to access the links.

    Qui Li September 15, 2024 10:34 pm
    Novel Updates, but you most will need an account to access the links. Qui Li

    You will need an account***

    Sorry, bad grammar lol

    Theystolemyname September 16, 2024 3:26 pm
    Lmao, I do understand about the brother/sister name calling. It doesn't translate well into english. I guess I'm more so explaining it to those who are confused and needed the summaries. There's a lot of ppl wh... Qui Li

    Yeah, I understand. Sometimes reading comprehension skills can fail even the best of us, lol, I myself asked some really stupid questions. I mainly wanted to support what you wrote, that it's not really that strange that they ended up together. That even the manga shows it enough.
    There are certainly some manga that are very questionable, with romance-but-not-really between actual blood related siblings or those that grew up as really close siblings...

    Yellow September 16, 2024 9:25 pm
    You will need an account***Sorry, bad grammar lol Qui Li

    I do have an account but all I found was the spoiler thread.

    Qui Li September 16, 2024 10:39 pm
    I do have an account but all I found was the spoiler thread. Yellow

    https://www.novelupdates.com/series/if-you-devour-poison/

    Yellow September 17, 2024 1:15 am
    https://www.novelupdates.com/series/if-you-devour-poison/ Qui Li

    ayo thank you sm man

Qui Li September 9, 2024 1:13 am

The whole Peter Erickson (is that his name lol) thing is going to be great. Mostly because that may not be part of JJs anger, but Leo will certainly see it that way.

It seems that JJ got close to Peter while being scouted, and JJ seems to love talking about racing, so it just seems natural for him to get along with drivers. Leo considered himself to be JJs only friend, which is a bit self centered, but JJ just has a new friend who shares similar interests, it may just be a nothing burger. And JJ not saying anything about what he's doing means nothing really, it could just be that JJ doesn't want to disclose his sexual encounters with friends. Also I doubt JJ would move on this fast, he's more likely to just focus on himself more than jump into a new relationship.

Also for anyone wanting Leo to drop JJ and get a new man, JJ has literally stated that that wouldn't surprise him. It would at most confirm that Leo never saw JJ as his boyfriend, so it's probably not something that JJ would fight against. He would be heartbroken but I doubt that'd have the effect some ppl are hoping for. Last time JJ saw Leo with another man, all he did was walk away, so yeeeeeaaaaaaah...

Anyways, Leo making a mountain out of an ant hill will be interesting. He did immediately assume JJ was sleeping with Peter rather than them just being friends.

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