H1th3r3 August 30, 2020 4:49 pm

Has the FL never heard of the "block contact" button on her phone? Great innovation of technology.

H1th3r3 August 28, 2020 2:15 pm

I use to like this story when I was younger, but then I realised this had to the genesis shoujo for the toxic scum ML trope that happens to be handsome AND rich. But horrible personality.


A quick and brutal reminder if it werent for Rui, Makino would of been gang raped by those students that the ML sent after her in "revenge" for slapping him.
Yes - gang raped. Still we according to the author she wanted to ship the FL with Rui but fans insisted the ML instead. Wtf ?

H1th3r3 September 20, 2020 9:49 pm

The FL is an absolute submissive idiot and the ML is not a "sadist" he is just a jerk that is committing sexual harassment against a young intern.
he bullies and traps her into a coercive relationship, exploiting her insecurities to continue the entanglement.
She wouldn't last one day as a doctor. because her personality is too weak and she is too dependant on the ML and other "attractive" men.

Are asian women in their society really that submissive to this type of treatment and find this behavior attractive from men? wtf?
I ain't even a feminist yet I find this trope to be very nauseating as a female. Because the women are so weak and boring. That will endure any abuse thrown at them in hope for the "love" of these scumbags. They aren't even interesting or sexy men. Meh.

H1th3r3 August 27, 2020 2:08 pm

What a stupid story and an idiot FL.
The ML knew what his "friend" did but chose to bed her and remain silent because she wasnt "wothy" enough to be his bride. And did a "Veni, Vidi, Vici".

He gets with her merely out of a sense of duty and guilt for making his friend a cuckhold.

The female lead didnt love that "jeff" loser but stuck with him because she is needy and codependent.

I cant stand people with weak character. Both the FL and ML have this in common.

H1th3r3 August 27, 2020 1:56 pm

Why do japanese women and society have an fetish when it comes to butlers?
The basically dont even exist in the western world anymore. Apart from the royal in the uk.

    Nathaeila August 27, 2020 2:59 pm

    Cause it's hot? IDK

    Nathaeila August 27, 2020 2:59 pm

    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    H1th3r3 August 27, 2020 4:46 pm
    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Nathaeila

    its cringe. no young handsome man desires to be a "butler" for the few job that exists. its usually very very old traditional or gay men who gravitate to that sort position. there is nothing "masculine" about it.

    Nathaeila August 28, 2020 7:09 am
    its cringe. no young handsome man desires to be a "butler" for the few job that exists. its usually very very old traditional or gay men who gravitate to that sort position. there is nothing "masculine" about i... H1th3r3

    Actually, in this manga the butler is more of a housekeeper than a butler. I don't think that traditionally butlers were doing all house chores. Maybe that's why you get an impression that it's not very masculine. I honestly don't think that. For many women it's hot when a guy is only focused on them, wearing a suit and treating them like princesses (butler combo). I guess that's what get's them going. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Fangg August 28, 2020 11:40 am

    Butlers exist in the west too. The modern Butler is more privatized. My best friend who lives in Massachusetts is a Butler. She hates it, but she makes some damn good money off of it.

    lgmariaeduarda August 28, 2020 11:36 pm

    It's a hot dude in fancy clothes that calls you lady and princess. Who wouldn't have a kink for this?

    H1th3r3 August 29, 2020 2:59 am
    It's a hot dude in fancy clothes that calls you lady and princess. Who wouldn't have a kink for this? lgmariaeduarda

    Those that aren't into effeminate men or cosplay.

    lgmariaeduarda August 29, 2020 6:59 am
    Those that aren't into effeminate men or cosplay. H1th3r3

    It's not cosplay bc it's his actual job and I didn't find him effeminate though

    H1th3r3 August 29, 2020 10:54 am
    It's not cosplay bc it's his actual job and I didn't find him effeminate though lgmariaeduarda

    I was generalizing about the role itself.

H1th3r3 August 27, 2020 1:54 pm

Another "reborn " another unoriginal plot summary with the same tropes

    kurosaki August 27, 2020 2:05 pm

    Yup pretty much. And the same fl making the same mistakes

H1th3r3 August 26, 2020 9:22 pm

all these "reincarnation" plot series always seem to have the same recycled plot:
1. dies and becomes an "evil" emperor/king daughter that is doted on
2. Cruelly killed and murdered (usually by their lover) and wants "revenge"

pass

    Aegis19 August 26, 2020 11:42 pm

    Don’t forget the
    I reincarnated as the Villainess and im going to change my fate or whatever

    H1th3r3 August 26, 2020 11:55 pm
    Don’t forget the I reincarnated as the Villainess and im going to change my fate or whatever Aegis19

    yeah its almost like there is no such thing as originality or plagiarism amongst China Manhua authors.

    Mel August 27, 2020 1:29 pm

    Exactly or like killed her evil sister or whatever always the same plot

    H1th3r3 August 27, 2020 1:52 pm

    What's funny is that they always seem to remember details of their past lives and have same consciousness and personality...
    Then how is that re-incarnating? That's is basically a body switch. Incarnations avatars have the same soul but different personalities and traits.

    Its not even unoriginal they all just copy the same 3 plots with different character designs. Even the art often mirrors each other. The only decent art is usually done by the Korean artists. The Chinese ones are very bad in comparison.

    Also, in the chinese versions There is always "evil" sisters fighting over a man or father"s affection. And the men treat the women like garbage beating the women frequently and rather be angry at the person doing the beating the blame the FL. Wtf?
    Is this how chinese society is? Do the women all worship and are submissive to men and hate other women to the point they are willing to do very ugly things to each other for the sake of a man?
    Is men beating women considered normal if they "annoy" them ?

    Mel August 27, 2020 7:01 pm
    What's funny is that they always seem to remember details of their past lives and have same consciousness and personality...Then how is that re-incarnating? That's is basically a body switch. Incarnations avata... H1th3r3

    Exactly sometimes there is even rape , the story is boring , art style unoriginal like you said if it really reflects Chinese society wtf...
    Anyways kill all men 2020 lol

    H1th3r3 August 27, 2020 7:36 pm
    Exactly sometimes there is even rape , the story is boring , art style unoriginal like you said if it really reflects Chinese society wtf... Anyways kill all men 2020 lol Mel

    The women aren't too great either. They are petty , vain , shallow and very cruel to each other. If they aren't that then they are very very stupid.
    Usually obsessed with the most toxic and abusive male regardless his 2-d personality so long as he is good looking and a "ceo". Wtf?
    Why only a CEO? What about a lawyer , artist, designer , engineer, builder etc.
    I think that is just a reflection of the societies these stories are from, they want to disguise hypergamy as love. Lol

    Mel August 27, 2020 7:45 pm
    The women aren't too great either. They are petty , vain , shallow and very cruel to each other. If they aren't that then they are very very stupid.Usually obsessed with the most toxic and abusive male regardle... H1th3r3

    Yeah plus they are all obsessed with money and so greedy and jealous and want to kill each other just calm down and have a normal convo but no and there is always that stepmother and her daughter who want all the money like that story anyways it's mean but I prefer Korean authors 10 times more like solo leveling or shoujo they have amazing art like "who made me a princess" yeah I think I'm maybe gonna stop this one

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