I hated the drink party assault part. I can't stomach scenes like that I just skip or scroll really fast past them. Disgusting. Like I can understand if it's a tug of war between your seme/lover/partner, but a stranger/random person ew gross no.
Are you fricking kidding me why is mangago not uploading the rest of my comment.
Lol loser
Clapurcheeks. That's it. That's the whole scentence.
The royal highness (Helion) is hot. I ship him with myself. That's all imma say.
The doctor was an asshole and I don't like how he got dojun drunk and threw himself on him. He always gave me the ick. And he legit gets a kick out of taking advantage of alphas.
I actually preferred dojun and do-hwa because he treated dojun more like a human and not some toy to get bored and throw away.
In my head they got together, got in a car and drove off into the sunset. The End.
I'm even tempted to write a mini fanfic and drop the link to give all dojun X do-hwa shippers the closure and proper ending we all wanted. Low-key looked like the author just last minute threw together and rushed the ending.
what the fuck? did you forget their brothers? sira na din ba ulo mo?
@Ceriseeoo In my head they're strangers who just grew up in the same house together ahaha
I either want Dojun X Jinwoo or Gi-tae X Jinwoo.
Dojun X Tae-seok. It's giving nothing.
Hell even Gi-tae and his ex has more chemistry. Tae-seok has as much charisma and sex appeal as a wooden spoon.
I want Dojun to get jealous of Jinwoo and Gi-tae, realise he likes him and then Dojun X Jinwoo Endgame.
And I would also like a break away, side story of Jinwoo X Gi-tae. Because Jinwoo is literally the only most interesting one.
What are the likely chances of that happening idk. But a girl can dream.
Who the hell gave me 2 thumbs down
Whoever gave me 2 thumbs down I'm cursing you for life
You're disappointed that they have a healthy relationship??? Wdym giving nothing
Lol I can't help that I feel nothing when I see them. Usually for attraction it's when they move back and forth, it creates movement like waves. Plus Dojun X Jinwoo has more history.
I'm crazy I can reach into the screen and feel the characters thoughts and feelings.
And if people really did like the whole 'healthy relationship' the world would have more healthy relationships. Girlfriends sometimes start shit with their boyfriends to get things moving, because they enjoy a bit drama and movement. No great movie ever has a flat plotline. It's the up and down that creates excitement and range of emotion.
But it's good you prefer healthy relationships :D
watchu talkin bout !!!!!!!?!!
Which bit you confused about?
I agree, not for the same reasons exactly, but I'm not feeling dojun and Taeseok either
Thank you for validating me haha.
'not for the same reasons exactly',yeahh my reasonings are crazy right?
Ain't no spice in a relationship without a bit of seasoning.
hahaha it's okay I understand. I was actually having a discussion with an IRL friend of mine about this particular story today (she hasnt read it yet) and how I don't like Taeseok. Dojun is emotionally and mentally vulnerable and from my perspective, Taeseok is taking advantage of that in a way. Their first sex scene also made me uncomfortable because Dojun was basically love-bombed ans coerced into bottoming even tho he didn't really want to. that's my reason!
Are you f*cking kidding me, how did you know what I was thinking. Do we share the same braincell.
Why is my reply being cut ahgsgsjw
That what I meeaan. Especially HEAVY emphasis on the first sex scene. And when he was like 'Jinwoo' I was like bitch you betta not, he even mistook you for him bcoz he's so used to and comfortable with JW. Imo taeseok is like someone who wants to jump in at the first sign of someones relationship failing, ariana grande who?
This is why most fujos annoy the shit out of me, they need a toxic and rapey story to fulfill their fantasies they can fap to. If a relationship is healthy then it's bland and boring.
FRR like why should he go through trauma to get real love… it’s about time we had a healthy couple in BL
Period
frrr like whats wrong with having healthy relationship ?? its really wholesome and cute . they're not boring ffs , its called being realistic and shows how real relationship looks like !! thank god this manhwa do not romanticize r*pe and sa like other
I wish authors would stop treating their ukes/bottoms like prostitutes and whores. He's not a sex machine/robot/doll. I feel the author low has low self-esteem issues, and they only feel validated by the amount of attention and sex they can get from men, and they're projecting it onto Leon. Smh.
Having or/and thinking about sex all the time is a mental illness guys. You need to re-evaluate your thoughts and choices and get a better hobby. It's not good for your health. Leon's treated like a sex object. These relationships are highly unrealistic and exaggerated, they warp your idea about what a relationship between your partner is supposed to be like. Stop consuming too much of content like this. Anything repeatedly done becomes addictive. Give feedback to the author or stopping giving your money and attention to authors until they make better stories and their characters more human. Then authors will be forced to make actual decent stories if they know there is a demand for romantic love and decline in rape and promiscuous stories.
What is the need for authors to always make their characters whores and rape victims?
I have yet to find one story that has both the seme and uke virgins and each others first time, and actually loyal to each other. And not revenge cheating or one-stand with a stranger for the drama.
Is it so hard to make separate stories in one book to see how Leon would pair each of them?
Like day 1 would be Leon and long hair dude verse.
Day 2 Leon and dark skin dude
Day 3 Leon and cat/dog I don't even wtf hybrid mutant ninja turtle guy.
Then repeat the cycle.
Don't make Leon a whore, make 4 different verses to see how 4 different men would pair with Leon. And even have the same (leading romantic interest) characters in all the verses to see how they would also interact with Leon as a friend or enemy (as a side or background character).
Stop with the sex sex sex all the time. Like where is the character expression and development. Can't we have everyone not behave like sex crazed animals for one day.
And where is the slow and meaningful sex. Why does it have to be hard and violent all the time. I can understand consensual non-consent because it's all about power play, but does this look like Leon is giving consent? These types of foreplay are usually done by two consenting adults in a relationship with a safe word. Because it's all about making your partner feel good and safe. Leon's been held hostage by the looks of it.
And it's crazy to I ship Leon with the dark skin guy because they seem to have more chemistry and dialogue.
And lowkey long hair guy because he seems to treat Leon the nicest.
The dog like one just creeps me out.
I haven't kept up with this story since it pissed me off, but I just had to let my feelings out. #JusticeForLeon
This is just my personal take. If your offended, good. Then it means I was talking about you.
idk the tags did already warn everyone what’s coming up and there’s so many stories that are basically just fluff galore with healthy relationships. anyone old enough to read these should be mature enough to put down what goes past their boundaries to begin with. the author did say it was planned for 100 episodes so far so there’s a lotta time left, we are basically just starting with season 1 properly, as it was stated to treat the first half as an epilogue and the author also drawing down their ongoing 18+ delusions too. leon also isn’t really getting to whore levels cus it’s not consensual to begin with did say he also just wanted to save stuff like kisses for the one he actually loves too. quite a pure mc if you think about it. and i’ve seen a lotta stories where both sides are virgins or figuring stuff out properly together. there’s so many stories sometimes you stumble across a lotta hardcore stuff or you find a lotta fluff after fluff or one with a good mix of both. although i agree, justice for leon. man hasn’t lost it yet revenge is always an option. but yeah chapter 1 and 2 shoulda been earning enough for anyone who doesn’t enjoy reading hardcore smut. glad the author is adding to the story tho.
I appreciate your reply thanks. It's hard to find good stories that have the art style I'm looking for. But I'm just hoping someone who stubbles across the webtoon doesn't get addicted to stuff like this. I know the author draws stuff like this but I just know they'd cry if they woke up as leon and had to live his life on infinite loop. To me this story just screams sadness and sex.
The 3 down votes you need holy water. I'm advocating for character rights to be better.
Remember God is always watching everything your thinking, saying and doing.
Damn I liked this just after reading the first sentence but I wish I could take it back :(
No way you wrote a whole ass lecture here thinking you did some shit... And you disrespected the author too.
You're probably not gonna listen to what I say because you're gonna think I'm just just a 'hater' or something but you're actually so high and mighty I felt like I had to share my thoughts <3
First of all, you do realise that fiction doesn't totally have to totally represent real life ethics right? This is a very typical example people give, but you wouldn't write a whole ass essay talking about why you wouldn't endorse murder, would you? Like yeah every meaningful relationship should have the things you mentioned but not everyone likes reading that(with the exclusion of the virgin thing... You don't have to be a virgin to be in a loving relationship). If we needed to incorporate real life ethics into every piece of fiction then most pieces of work would be so boring they'd be unreadable. The simple fact is this: some men and women like dubious content.
I don't have a love for non-con but there are some I know people who like them and some people who absolutely hate it and they're both the same in real life, their taste in fiction consumption doesn't affect their real life relationships. I've read a a shit ton of non-con in the past but that doesn't mean I've ever endorsed anyone including myself having this sort of Sex in any way.
Respectfully, I'm going to assume you're a young teen who's just discovering their sense of morality and thinks that people are dumb enough to read this shit and equate it to real life. You shouldn't be reading this at all if you're young to be honest, it's clearly adult content and you could take it at face value(but i guess you've done that already).
I was just like this when I was younger, I couldn't stand non-con or a bunch of other things because I myself wouldn't personally do those things but guess what...people aren't like this and not every piece of fiction has to cater to you. Also, some works of fiction are mostly smut and don't have enough character development and story... That's just how it is. Pieces of fiction are created with different aims in mind. You wouldn't expect porn to have a good story, do you? Or, you wouldn't expect more serious works of fiction to have sex scenes yeah?
What's really sad is that people especially use these arguments when it comes to women liking risque stuff in fiction, because they think women are dumb enough to want these things in real life(I've had a man tell me I can't like yanderes because it would mean I want a yandere irl, but it's okay for them to like yandere girls because they understand that it's not healthy to have that type of relationship irl).
What happened to 'don't like don't read'? You saw the warnings at the beginning of each chapter and you still decided to read it and complain about it.
Tldr; don't write a whole ass essay preaching morality and talking about what the author should and shouldn't do, you're like 12 you need to study for your maths test and leave r18 content alone. Leave this for its intended audience and go read some cute shounen-ai or something, there's plenty of good ones out there that are perfectly safe and show healthy relationships.
As a pro-shippet, I totally agree with you. People really need to stop mixing preference on fiction with reality. I love gangbang but I never want it myself. I love threesome and polyamory in fiction but I'm monoamory myself. Fictional preference doesn't defy everything about that person, it's just preference. And yes, the tag said so, the warning said so, yet people still read and complain about it.
*shipper
*define
I LOVE YOU FOR THIS! I usually ignore them bc it’s literal common sense and they don’t take that in very well which was why I stopped bothering but you said everything I was thinking.
I'm like 100 episodes? Nani? What? Ughhh, I get the feeling that means we are gonna have to go through more rape before the plot actually takes off...（/TДT)/
Thank you so much for saying this.....I myself am one of those twisted people who like hardcore sex and sometimes feels bad about myself because I feel as if I am encouraging rape......Because of your comment I realized that it's just something I like to real in fiction and don't want something like that to happen to a real person ever....I like reading sweet fluff with consensual sweet love making scenes but sometimes I like reading non-con rapey stuff too because it's all fiction,right? I mean you can like something bad in fiction but hate it in real life,right? Thanks a lot for your comment ♡.
Don't worry matcha I'll take in your downvote
Omg why is mangago cutting my comment
Bruhh you got me searching up words I didn't even know existed 'pro-shippet'
"I love gangbang but I never want it myself." I'm crying wtf. Say this again out loud and slower. Lady can you hear yourself.
"I love threesome and polyamory in fiction but I'm monoamory myself."
Alright this one took me out What even the fuck. Looks like the only threesome you're getting is cheating. I love it and I hate it at the same time - David Kushner
"Fictional preference doesn't defy everything about that person" "I love gangbang" " I love threesome" Speaks for itself. "but I never want it myself" "but I'm monoamory myself" You've already told me about yourself. What like your logic 'defy' the laws of gravity? You're such a hypocrite you're levitating.
Sorry should I have put a TW on my post, yet you "still read and complain about it" PWAHAHAHA
JALLY I'm right here. What's with the treating the host of the party like a thirdwheel. I take all criticism in, then I play ping pong with them, let's see how long we can carry on this bullshit for.
"that means we are gonna have to go through more rape"
- That scentence itself should be arrested
I hope Leon haunts the author in their dreams.
"I myself am one of those twisted people who like hardcore sex and sometimes feels bad about myself because I feel as if I am encouraging rape......" At least you're self aware Consensual non-consent is different to rape. As long as both parties are aware what they're doing is a play. But if they don't, it's r*pe. "don't want something like that to happen to a real person ever" - that would be because they didn't give consent. I'm sure we all want to play out fantasies in safe spaces with our partner and not some with some random stranger.
Bruh if only you scroll down a little bit you'll see that I misspelled and I can't edit my comment so I have to reply my own comment. Man, I feel so bad for how...clueless you are and I can't help but giggle for that lol.
And your point is so invalid. I clearly stated that "threesome or polyamory" which are completely different from cheating or adultery. Google what does "polyamory" mean, homie before you talk back to me because you look so dumb so hard rn. I love reading gangbang or 3P, 4P in fiction but I never want to participate in that kind of sex myself in real life. I'm more like asexual in real life actually but you have no idea about that and think my fictional preferences DEFINE everything about me (I wrote it correctly right now boo). See? I'm asexual and you think I'm into gangbang shits because I read gangbang?? What a logic!
And I'm totally monoamory as I never want any more person in my own relationship but am I against polyamory in real life? Well, as long as everyone's happy and it's NOT my own relationship, I don't care since it's none of my business.
If you anti-shipper think fictional preference is the same as reality, then people who love slasher/murder film must love slashing people in real life too. What a dumb logic!
First of all, You don't know anything about me either....but I never held anything you said against you...Why do you think I am insulting you or defining you by your words...I wasn't talking back to you....Man, you are so insecure for no reason....I think either you don't know english or took my comment completely oppositely....I agreed with the fact that fictional preference is NOT the same as reality...please reread my comment....I am agreeing with you YOU DUMB PERSON!! First read a comment properly before replying to it.....I am not against you but with you....feel bad about yourself because YOU MISUNDERSTOOD ME....not the other way round....
Well, I am a quite sensitive person...so, did you like agree with me or disagree? I don't wanna misunderstand you....
Did they block you since you couldn’t reply directly to them?
Where?
Didn’t want to reply more but mangago sees through your bullshit aha
I don't know...maybe?
agreed anyone would never wanna be leon for real. but this is so far down the fiction route it’s a whole different world. sometimes peoples fiction aren’t fantasies of what they actually enjoy and is just dark fiction for the sake of it, which is why i don’t enjoy jumping to those conclusions. but yeah, the art in this is beyond gorgeous i honestly wonder what their twitter or social media is, in case they post random off canon or random art in general.
Wait, I tend to reply to the original comment. Why is it yours?? I'm sorry about that, let me try again
Bruh if only you scroll down a little bit you'll see that I misspelled and I can't edit my comment so I have to reply my own comment. Man, I feel so bad for how...clueless you are and I can't help but giggle for that lol.
And your point is so invalid. I clearly stated that "threesome or polyamory" which are completely different from cheating or adultery. Google what does "polyamory" mean, homie before you talk back to me because you look so dumb so hard rn. I love reading gangbang or 3P, 4P in fiction but I never want to participate in that kind of sex myself in real life. I'm more like asexual in real life actually but you have no idea about that and think my fictional preferences DEFINE everything about me (I wrote it correctly right now boo). See? I'm asexual and you think I'm into gangbang shits because I read gangbang?? What a logic!
And I'm totally monoamory as I never want any more person in my own relationship but am I against polyamory in real life? Well, as long as everyone's happy and it's NOT my own relationship, I don't care since it's none of my business.
If you anti-shipper think fictional preference is the same as reality, then people who love slasher/murder film must love slashing people in real life too. What a dumb logic!
I checked, it's not exactly their reply towards me but its definitely not yours! I think you misunderstood it. I agreed with JALLY not the original comment who are anti-shipper. Check it again
Wtf I messed up the reply fr this time. I didn't mean to reply to you joyuri, it was meant for BL Army. What just happened??
I checked, it's not exactly their reply towards me but its definitely not yours! I think you misunderstood it. I agreed with JALLY not the original comment who are anti-shipper. Check it again
I agreed with JALLY, BL Army and you. Not the original comment
It's okay I knew that we were on the same page and it was a misunderstanding...♡
Well....Now that the misunderstanding is cleared....Thank you for agreeing with me
This is embarrassing but I just made a whole twitter account cuz I can't fit the reply here.
It's a long ass thread
Read it or not, it's your choice.
Omg mangago is driving me crazy cutting my post. @HereForAGoodT4m if your curious
This whole thread got me crying
BL ARMY You're literally the 'he a little confused but he got the spirit' meme I'm just glad the pitchforks not aiming at me
"Well, I am a quite sensitive person...so, did you like agree with me or disagree?"
- AHAHAHAHAHAA
This absolutely killed me. Ngl it's kinda cute.
This whole thread is mad af
How you gonna treat me like a thirdwheel to my hate party It's cuz you didn't reply to me directly.
Okay you got me there
Nahh frfr.
"sometimes peoples fiction aren’t fantasies of what they actually enjoy"- but they are secret desires though . Yeah art is really good. Yeah fr.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA U betta be sorry
Oh this again
I'm sorry wtf is going on imma need a scientist to figure this one out
AHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOKS like I'm not the only one mangago hates
Orignal comment here
Mangago stop cutting comment
Sure you did ♡ ahahhaa
"Thank you for agreeing with me" ahahaha this whole scentence is killing me
Yoo well we all need to take eo handles
It's trauma bonding atp
-We need to take the battle off course
Can you like stop laughing and be serious for once? And for real STOP QUOTING.....ITS GETTING ANNOYING.....I asked a genuine question instead of going off at you but looks like after all you did disagree with me.....bye
I'm acc crying. Wonho and Eunwoo are ones of the characters I've mostly gotten attached to out of all the stories I've read. I love their dynamics and storyline. I think they work really well together and can both heal each other. I'm so happy they have progressed. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
@Matcha this is dedicated to you
My reply didn't go through ahaha
Don't worry I'll take in your downvote
You cannot separate the art from the artist. The same way you can't separate fiction from life. Because it's inspired and sourced from it. Things like r*pe, dr*gs, tr*fficking, kidn*pping, group s*x it's all inspired by the things that happen in life, by the authors we call human.
Documentaries, tv, movies, research, assignments, vlogs are made on real life muder cases
Sex was originally used to consummate marriage and exchange data. It's a ritual to tie two souls together. Your body is your ancestors home, and they don't like you letting random strangers in, why you originally needed the blessings from your ancestors and parents before you married. Negative backlash: STD, mental and physical illness, unlucky.
Authors can change and alter, the brainwave patterns in their readers brain.
I like the desire and obsession one person has towards another person. You're mine and you belong to me forever kinda hit different. Means they'll be your partner for life and follow you through different lifetimes. Real men/women don't want to share their partner with anyone else. To fully own someone and to belong to someone. Unbreakable bond, chained to your loved one, even Shakespeare couldn't write this shit. But I'm willing to fight anyone who touches my things, so maybe I'm the unhinged one.
Read or write things you want to create more of in this life. This is just subliminal and brainwashing. Be honest are you addicted to reading porn?
We're not happy with what humans are doing. And they're not safeguarding and raising their children properly, exposed to adult content online, tv and books.
People and fiction don't have to 'cater' to me, but it's a problem if I have to meet them on the other side, and when their fiction comes to life.
Porn is poison. Entertainment watching someone else go at it. Lol it's cheating if you have a gf/bf and you look at it.
Learning about sex to prepare for yourself and your partner is different.
"What's really sad is that people especially use these arguments when it comes to women liking risque stuff in fiction"
Women are the no.1 abused, r*ped, k*dnapped, tr*fficked, dr*gged victims in real life so... Ain't no way you're telling me this is a coincidence and not learnt behaviour.
It's been instilled and programmed into them since birth for women 'to want these things', from their parents and society. Y'all have to understand some of your thoughts and desires aren't even yours.
Ain't nothing wrong with a man/woman who's possessive over what's theirs. This is a lot of how your ancestors used to move.
I personally don't justify something I'm not willing to do myself.
I came here to study the human. Can't fix a leaky roof or a hole in a wall if I don't know there is one. Especially if this house is the entire planet. We have a duty to take care and look after our home.
You also wrote 'a whole ass essay preaching morality and talking about what the author should and shouldn't do' to me, we're all entitled to our own opinion
Looks like I reached my intended audience
I'm already over reading manga and webtoon, I just came here to get things off my chest.
Appreciate your reply. I hope you and your friends manifest in your lives whatever you find entertaining without being hypocrites.