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Chapter 122 i suggest you read from where hateful sword appear...

ok! thank you so much!!

How is John evil for defending himself...? Again that's a very weird statement I think. Thanks.

Yeah I wonder of Sera will react. But @spoilers is right. Everyone deserves this, they never care about our John anyway.

how is john, my boy evil?? like what make no sense madam

beating them up for revenge is fine and I get that they got what they deserve for bullying John. All of hits and the cuts they deserve it all but the girl falling from that height is tooooooo much. They're hurting him but never got to the point where it could be fatal

Well, if he didn't use his power now, I'm pretty sure the hit was gonna be fatal eventually. And for the girl part, imagine a scenario that he let the boy go get the girl, John would have let down his guard a bit, but the boy instead back stabbed him, and didn't save the girl. Since betrayal was what drove him to hurt others, at that point, he wouldn't trust in anyone except himself.

Hmmm... I don't know about them beating John up to the point that it would be fatal is going to happen. If it would have... I don't know cuz it didn't happen. So I stand by my previous statement

Oh god!! My reply got cut

So... As I was saying. Regards to John not trusting the guy. Obviously I understand that logic but when u think about it, the one who approached the guy is John himself. He could have kept distance and the guy could have saved the girl. But if John really wanted to make sure. John could have do whatever he did to that guy then send out wind that could at least slow down that girls fall not let gravity take over.

I feel that fight was in John's control. I would call it totally one sided. That's mainly why I feel he went to far.
But hey everyone has their own opinion
Let's agree to diagree
Cuz if u think what John letting that girl fall is ok. I really would not want u or anyone who is ok with that get agry with me

Uh seriously? Do you not remember the FIRST time that those two approached him? They WOULD have killed him for no other reason than that he was a cripple. Did you say THEN that they could have backed off or done something to help him? No*? And THIS would have been the SECOND time they would have attempted that, after all. NOT the first. Or don't you remember that in Turf Wars you're obviously allowed to kill or seriously maim people? OR, for that matter, don't you remember, for some reason, when Arlo nearly killed that person from the other group? And John WOULD have known that. And really at that point there is no DIFFERENCE between maiming someone or killing them. The INTENT is the SAME.

*Then really you should be more scared of YOURSELF. See you just admitted that you thought it was okay to never question the responsibility of the ones who have the privilege to be let off the hook but it's always fair game to question the VICTIM'S responsibility. I would be more scared of someone like you who thinks it's inappropriate for those getting bullied lethally to not respond but it's a-ok for those doing the bullying to resort to whatever methods they thought were 'best'.

Maybe I should stop talking to you because I don't want someone like you to get angry at ME. Especially since I've already HAD someone like you get angry at me and threaten not just ME but my family as well on this website.

Ktbn.

PS. Back to the first Turf Wars event I was discussing that we actually saw in the Webtoon. This was before Vestus and Meili attacked John in the first place. The fact that they were attacking him the first time around with such deadly intent while on school PROPERTY and not during a Turf War either, proves not only what kind of intent they DID have during their last battle with John but also what responsibility everyone thinks they should be let off the hook for.

Yes I know that this is the second time they attack him. The first time he attacked him was to break his phone (Arlo). Now they are attacking him because of Arlo. But setting that aside... The approach I'm talking about in the text u are answering to is TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT AND U DIDNT READ IT AT ALL. The approach I'm talking about there is the approaches they did DURING THE FIGHT IN THE LATEST CHAPTER. And when did I say they will ever help John. I don't even know where that came from

Secondly how sure are you that people are not punished in their school if they cause serious injuries? Do u really think a school or a society won't hold into account people's value or their face as a society who have morals would allow that??. Obviously killing is not allowed in turf war otherwise the killings with high tiers wouldn't be in the news since high school kids are killing each other already (hopefully u don't misunderstand something here)

Thirdly when did I say that I side with those two and don't take into account the victims side. HELLO I did say that they deserve it. Each of John's attack they deserve it cuz of what they did to him. They basically got what they did to John unto themselves. BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT OF KILLING SOMEONE. LETTING SOMEONE FALL ON THAT HEIGHT!!!

You're saying that there is something wrong with me well... I rather be myself than someone like u who is saying that it's ok for a victim to KILL someone to get their justice to extent of serving that justice by a HUNDRED FOLDS. You're saying that people should be fine with a victim killing his/her bullies. You're crazy! If that's the case then our world will be in chaos.

LASTLY what the heck are you reading. When the heck did I threaten u??what family?? When did we meet each other???? Can you even read? I was talking to another user not u and ur answering out of context and making up stuff as u go to make a point that is not there. I never threatened anyone and you're just putting words into my mouth. You better read before you lash out on people cuz right now ur a real big clown

Next time before you respond pls read all of the text cuz u obviously didn't follow the conversation at all. I was talking to rin in all of the text u responded on. Don't get carried away and read first.

I was out of line when I said something about 'not talking to u cuz of different ideals' but I wanted to show how serious it is for people to be ok with taking a life even if this is fiction and most importantly that was not directed at u but to rin.
So next time. read first cuz u obviously didn't read it properly

Yeah, we all have different opinions. And that's OK. :)

This is the last thing I'm going to say on this subject on this thread. So feel free to have at me if you still miss the point and think this is anything OTHER than me trying to explain that point you missed in the FIRST place.

Yeah actually I did read properly. I knew exactly who that was directed at. It's weird though that you would think I didn't read properly just because you directed that comment at someone else since that's exactly WHY I knew what you were talking about and thus... responded to you?

However it seems that you're the one who didn't read properly. Because you completely missed my point. I was demonstrating to you how little YOU cared for the lives of victims over the lives of the bullies. And despite what you said in your second last post to me you still have not demonstrated that you care for their lives over/as much as that of the bullies. You just doubled down on it, actually. You seem to think it's okay to question a victim over whether they would have killed someone but that it's not okay to question a bully over whether they would have killed someone. You handed me that knowledge about you when you said the bullies attacks weren't fatal. You 'know' that while also 'knowing' that John's attacks WERE fatal HOW, now? That is other than expecting more responsibility from a victim than you do from the bullies of course.... And we're talking about SOLELY the attacks, not the STRAWMAN of whether Arlo ran interference or not in that first conflict John had with them, mmkay?

You do know that there's a reason that using lethal force while DEFENDING yourself is not murder, right? It's the same with someone being a victim of abuse. There's a REASON they are considered to be less criminally culpable when they kill someone than when an abuser does. Yet you have proven yourself to be more defensive of the latter than you are of the former time and time again. And that is the point I was TRYING to make to you in that earlier post that you somehow missed.

Those examples you gave about high tiers being killed on the news is irrelevant. No one knows who killed them which is why it's in the news. Mysteries ALWAYS pique everyone's interest. Also John was pretending to be a cripple, y'know cripples whose lives seem to be pretty WORTHLESS in this world?

I don't know if you're going to read this but whatever... Ignore it if you want.

for the last time I NEVER LIKED THEM BULLYING JOHN AND HE DID GET HIS REVENGE. HE CUT THE GUY AND THE GIRL. It was self defence and I agree about the victim being less responsible because they were put into the corner.

Responsibility of the victim vs the bullies. I get what you're saying
BUT the FACT is that in this story JOHN OBVIOUSLY HAVE POWERS THAT OVERWHELMED THEM BOTH.
How do I know which ones fatal. Well as you can see John can still move while the GIRL WHO FELL FROM THE SKY cannot move and looks like she broke bones. Who knows if she landed badly she could be dead. The point is self defense is fine but it doesn't look like self defense if you go the extra mile to actually let that girl fall. He is quite clear minded to be able to fight like that. Now can I still consider this self defence if the guy can barely move tries to save a girl who fainted and after pleading for her life. WHAT did John do. He knocked out the guy and LET THE GIRL FALL

The only one I'm arguing about is the girl's fall and nothing else

Why do I have to demonstrate how I feel about people who get bullied when I'm just talking about how John having powers and John having control over that fight and John doing damage to both people BUT still didn't stop.

As to why I mentioned the news is because u said that ur 'allowed to kill in turf war' statement. Don't make it so that I just put it cuz I felt like it

I get it cripple are minority and they get bullied but what u don't get is that I'm not even in that subject. I'm talking about John specifically who chose to let that girl fall to her possible death when obviously went over and beyond self defense.

Like you I'm actually tired of arguing with you cuz ur point is obviously in a different ange than the subject of my comment in the first place and you're weighing down lives that I can't even imagine. We are just having a debate or clash of ideals but you went so far as framing me to 'threaten you and other ppl' and you didn't even apologize.

As much as possible I won't answer u anymore cuz u know that several points that you pointed out were out of context but u use it anyways just to prove you're point that I'm not even arguing with anyone about. You say responsible of the bullies and the victim but I'm not even taking about that. Like I said I feel that John went too far considering that he it already went over self defense when he let the unconscious girl fall. That's it why do I have to justify things like responsibility when it was just that specific action that I felt that went too far in the name of self defense.

*angle not ange

Lol I just realized my comment turned into a debate then a semi-fight then framing. Then here I am answering a person in my computer early morning on my birthday!!!! Ruining my mood so freaking early in the morning. I am done!!!

lol. happy birthdayyyy!!!!!!!!

Thank u Victoria （≧∇≦）

Um read next time before asking questions that already got answered mmkay?

no need to be mean

Awww thanks. ppl who r anonymous r always like that... don't mind. They can't vent around them so they do it online

My comment was not for the sake of asking question. It was to show my COMMENT of the chapter through my reaction after reading it.
Read the title 'I was like' which clearly shows it was reaction at that time. The question ur talking about is a rhetorical question. It means I don't expect a freakin answer cuz it was just a reaction.
Next time read the comment and title properly MMMMMMKAY?! ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~