so a lot of people are confused and a lot of people are not explaining it properly so here it is.
there are 2 versions of kings maker.1 is the shonen ai version, where there are no sex scenes BUT goes more in depth with their relationship and you can really see the emotions they feel rather then having sexs, as well as it has more chapters, but the second version is with sex scenes. i suggest you read the shonen ai first as the mature version was really created after the first one came out, so people could pay attention to the art, plot and the characters relationship of the first one, more then (like a whole lot of people keep asking for) the sex scenes. please don't just read this for the sex scenes as its just not right, and actually take the time to read the other version of this story. the story has a wonderful plot, great art and coloring so really try to read the original version first, then read this one!
I'm glad you explained this to people.
Thankkk uu so much for explaining i guess i will read the other version first
I just down voted my own comment by accident ┗( T﹏T )┛
ohh, okay thank you for the clarification
No what is wrong with people??? Just saw this one person who commented multiple times how much they HATED the dr and that they still wanted the adolph and Lewis to be together. This is disgusting, and before you say "it's their opinion on who to ship" let me remind you, he raped him, abused him, cheated on him, made him refuse chemo, and indirectly killed him. Think again.
"it's their opinion on who to ship"
so now you're romantisizing rape and abuse now?! wow.
There's no opinion in this story, the doctor treat lewis so much better , I know lewis is going to die in the end but I'm still hoping for him to end up with the doctor.
Opinion: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
I don't ship Adolph and Lewis but I hate people state their opinion about how something has no opinion. Call me what you will, I don't care. But what you posted is your own opinion :3
Shipping is 100% based on the individuals "opinion".
What?? When did I ever say "you can't have an opinion." I said it was disgusting that you'd ship two people that CLEARLY can't and shouldn't be together, together. It's romantisizing abuse and rape, which means this isn't something someone can have an "opinion" on, it's plain wrong. You saw what Adolf put Lewis through, you saw what he did to him and the amount of physical and mental pain he put him through, if people still ship that, they should get help, because this isn't about having an opinion or not, this is about people being sick in the head if they think this is ok and love. Some may make the EXUSE "but he's paying for it now and he's going through pain" ok and? He's paying for what he did to Lewis—not even close, to what he did to him. 14 years they spent together, a whole ass decade, and in the end he still ruined it all.
You didn't, Jiwon's precious fountain did. And as I said, I don't ship them, I just can't stand obnoxious self-opinionated people who feel it's their right and responsibility to make everyone see thing's their way. You have no right to tell people who to ship. Period. I'm not getting into what's wrong or right about the type of ship it would be (as it's clearly f*ed up). No excuse can make up for what was done to Lewis and I agree, people who ship him with his abuser are messed up. I simply took offense to your very strongly assertive post. I'll apologize for coming off like some sick rape sympathizer (cuz eww) but people are free to ship whomever.
Yea I guess, but it still is wrong and I don't think I'll ever be able to see from their pov.
I never was trying to come off as "obnoxious, self opinionated, or think that it's my responsibility to make people see from my pov" so I apologize, but I never forced people who to ship or not. I said that it's plain disturbing you would ship together a rapist and the victim, and if you really think about it, yea it is. The ship could be especially offensive to victims/survivors, that their trauma is being romanticized, in a way that never should be. I personally don't think I'll ever be able to see victim/rapist because from my opinion, it's plain wrong.
I never was trying to come off as "obnoxious, self opinionated, or think that it's my responsibility to make people see from my pov" so I apologize, but I never forced people who to ship or not.
-You're right, and I'm sorry too for getting so flustered.
I said that it's plain disturbing you would ship together a rapist and the victim, and if you really think about it, yea it is. The ship could be especially offensive to victims/survivors, that their trauma is being romanticized, in a way that never should be. I personally don't think I'll ever be able to see victim/rapist because from my opinion, it's plain wrong.
-Just to be clear, I don't ship them either and I agree it could definitely be triggering. I personally didn't find this romanticizing Adolf/Lewis but I get what you're saying, doing so would be sick. Anyway, thank you for staying rational in your explanations and bearing with my beratement. We might not see eye to eye on all points but at least we can still be civil like this. :]
Agreed :3
He killed him. Not directly, but he still killed them. He was the one stopping him from getting treatment. He was the one who made him commit suicide. On top of that he broke someone who never deserved to be broken.
Um yeh u heard me, we ain't forget about the two side character, the director and the other guy like Ima need a sequel real quick cause their story seems hella interesting (▰˘◡˘▰)
is this completed or ongoing?
its ongoing but there is an anime! the second part takes place pretty differently so it should be fine for u to read
What second part?
what is the anime called??
With the same name
yes lmao i meant what the second part was called
That i wana know too
the anime is called dakaretai otoko you can watch here
https://animekisa.tv/dakaretai-otoko-1-i-ni-odosarete-imasu
the second part is included in the manga but its more after they get together which starts around volume 4 ish if i remember correctly!
Oh i thought u were talking about anime's sec part. I was like whaaaat
This Anime is a masterpiece. I cant ever get tired of it
ohhh no the second season should come out around sometime this year, i heard it was supposed to come out jan but since the pandemic a lot of anime releases have been messed up :/
SERIOUSLLLYYYYYYUY NOOO WAYYYYYY. Im waiting for the Saezurur tori wa part 2 anime as well.
Ive nvr loved a couple this much before. I can totally tell why this manga is so famous in japan.
Ok so before y'all use actual knowledge, forget this is FICTIONAL and start making up theories and confusing them for the truth, he did get kidnapped again. The authors whole point of making this story (as stated) was to leave a bitter ending, and although he does suffer from ptsd, he was not hallucinating during the time of him going to the convenience store, therefore he was kidnapped again.
Ok so let's talk.
When I first started reading this, I knew what I was getting into just by the vibes this mans gave off. Though he did the things he did, after the part where he ran out after being spotted by his parents, I hated he parents even more than I hated the groomer. Why? Idk, gut feeling, but it really proved itself when his mom didn't want to make a police report so there would be no scandal.
Are you fûcking kidding me?
So you're telling me because you didn't want "scandal" you decided to not file a police report on your son being groomed, raped and used for child pornography?? I feel like in books like these, the parents are ALWAYS the root of the problem. Take killing stalking for example, sangwoo was a normal kid before his parents did what they did. He seemed like a really good guy and if they had met when both were mentally stable, they would have turned out to be a great couple, but no. Bums uncle raped bum, sexually abused him, mentally abused him and abused him, leading to extreme trauma and mental issues while sangwoo said mother and father did the same. The two are the perfect example of "right person, wrong time, too much trauma" as we see throughout the book, when they weren't having crises or, burying dead body's, they seemed to relatively be ok with each other. let's talk about the second character that comes into place, oj*****n, let's call him "o."
He started by traumatizing him and creating the ACTUAL root of the problem, the parents come in second place for stupidity. If he hadn't done why he had done, the poor kid wouldn't have turned out like this. The story is the perfect example of grooming and why the word shouldn't be just thrown around, just because a relationship has an age gap. People on TikTok that were literally harassing me after I said don't call people a groomer because the relationship had an age gap *cough* *cough* I'm talking to your dumbàsses.
I don't think people understand how big of an issue this actually is, as this could cause serious damage to a person. This man decided to do what he did to him causing and leading to his actions. Of course they do not justify what he did AT ALL but in a way, I understand why he did what he did. He was put through so much trauma and pain, only to think it was love, only to then get it taken away from him, to then being treated the way he did to try to get "fixed," which truly, is a whole lotta shît for anyone in general not just a kid, but the fact he had to even go through it at all, is what baffles me the most. O is the most disgusting character in this book, parents only come in second place and the side mc comes in third. "Why doesn't he come in their bro, he literally raped someone" ok wait, lemme explain.
We took a horrifying look into his past, saw and learned what caused parts of him to turn out like this, and we can also clearly see he is VERY mentally ill and unstable. I feel only the parents filed a police report, got him thrown into a mental hospital, and get the treatment that would actually help, could have stopped the mc to get hurt further on. Side mcs parents come in 4th place.
Thanks a lot bîtch est for victim claiming YOUR OWN son and "helping" him get "treatment" which only caused and inflicted more pain and issues onto him. I really just didn't understand what was going through these parents minds the whole story, so I came up to conclusion, the grow ups that took part in action, are ALL at fault.
Who tf sees their child being abused and doesn't want to file a police report because of scandals.
Who tf abuses a child and is a straight up pedophile who deserves to actually rot in hell.
Who tf are the "parents" that decided it would be a wonderful idea to send a person to him and "cure" him not to mention, literally HAVE people abuse him for him to get better?!
Anyways I'm done ranting lol all these characters need medication and a mental hospital ASAP.
This is WAY to underrated for my liking. This story bring some in all topics from racism, homophobia, mental issues, trauma, religion etc and did such a great job at representing it.
I wish the mom didn't do what she did as I was really rooting for her and sadly, can't seem to find forgiveness towards her from the hateful things she said to them because Of her religion :/
Either way I LOVED this book, def gonna be one of my new favorites (づ￣ ³￣)づ
ok so before y'all read this know there are triggers and also lets not confuse sexual assault with r@pe. they are 2 completely different charges. yes, he sexually assaulted him BUT he didn't r@pe him, he ATTEMPTED too but didn't- the two are very different. overall this was literally so GOOD like no cap and he had big character development ╮(￣▽￣)╭
did the sexual assult happen between the two main characters or one of the main characters n a diff person....cuz idk if i wanna read it if the relationship started w sexual assault yk
their relationship was very rocky at the beginning, and yes, he did sexually assault him but he also did grow from it and made up for it in the end though, i'm sure what he did will always be there.
I can't be the only one who thought their relationship and looks was so similar to make me barks main couple, but in omegaverse, anyone else see it ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ