Am I the only one who don't like the emperor???? I feel like the emperor is kind of psycho or something and I wish that the emperor is not the ML because I know for sure our MC will suffer so much.
Also if you can elaborate why you have such a bad impression of San, so enlighten us cause he hasn't shown even one thing that makes him a crazy psycho bitchass like you're claiming ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
Maybe not a psycho but obnoxious and self-centered. He's an emperor and maybe thats why. Everyone except Kang believes his word is the law which in our current time is definitely a big ass red flag.
There's nothing wrong with giving criticism to the ML. Thats what the comment section is for So dont let the other comments bother you.
Maybe not a psycho but obnoxious and self-centered. He's an emperor and maybe thats why. Everyone except Kang believes his word is the law which in our current time is definitely a big ass red flag. There's not... Anye1116
Comparing this fictional historical story to current times is kinda funny. He's obnoxious and self-centred? Maybe at first, but I think he was stuck in an environment where he was being forced by everyone around him to act "proper" and he's been a free spirit since he was a kid (digging a hole just to escape the lessons) and even now he tries not to get suffocated in the royal bullshit - he doesn't look down on commoners, which is A VERY big deal for a king in that time. They're so far removed from reality that they won't ever dream of it. Moreover, he respects Kang to the point he doesn't allow him to act even a bit formal to him, and let's him talk however he wants to him. As for bringing him to the capital with him, he did it for his own interest true, but it wouldn't be called forcing Kang. He gave him a choice, explained it, said it would be fun to show him a world beyond his own small town, and also fulfilled all his wishes. He kept him near him (for the art he said) but also for keeping a watchful eye on him to protect him from the political power struggles in the palace. So, seriously,I don't see what he has done to warrant this kind of ridiculous mpression, unless the reader themselves were blind. If you're comparing this manhwa with other historical bullshit BLs which is plain disrespectful to the author and the story itself.
Comparing this fictional historical story to current times is kinda funny. He's obnoxious and self-centred? Maybe at first, but I think he was stuck in an environment where he was being forced by everyone aroun... shizu-chan
If he was "obnoxious and self-centred" he wouldn't be giving a shit about Kang to this point, and also he hasn't forced himself on it and treats him as a friend, rather than a subject. I honestly can't see how anyone is deliberately misinterpreting this as being toxic.
Comparing this fictional historical story to current times is kinda funny. He's obnoxious and self-centred? Maybe at first, but I think he was stuck in an environment where he was being forced by everyone aroun... shizu-chan
1. Never compared to it other historical BLs. Where did I mention that?
2. I compared it to modern times because the OP might be using modern times to compare as why he said San might be a psycho.
3. Forcing the Kang's Father's subordinate to find out who Kang is when his father was desperately hiding the truth for legit reasons aka fearing San will do something horrible to someone who is divinity. Because San closed all temples and disbanded every organization that had anything to do to temples. But of course he had to go force someone who basically had no choice but to tell him. Not because it could be a threat to his life but because he wanted to know.
4. Telling Lady Hee how boring her painting is when it was him who would go to her room and always ask for paintings or orchids. Yes Lady Hee is a bitch but women in the harem are cut throat because in order to survive, one must have the affection of the emperor (which is we all know historically accurate). His words and actions is what drives the actions of the concubine. I wont even start about leaving a pregnant lady behind without saying a word. Yes its a womb he doesnt like but that woman is still pregnant and potentially carrying a future heir.
5. Balance is what maintains the internal harem, he has influence on that balance but also cannot be interfering when trouble brews, like what he mentioned. That siding will Kang will aggravate the ladies more but he continues to openly show favor, staying with him when he has already announced going to Lady Chang's residence. Spending the night in Kang's room right after telling Lady Hee's drawing has gone boring. "Ive tasted something sweeter" is a line he used to describe why suddenly, Lady Hee isnt jn his favor anymore.
6. Which all goes back to what OP said, Kang might be in trouble not because of San's direct actions but because he's been doing what he wants which gives Kang unnecessary attention. When one becomes at the top, one gains a lot of responsibilities.
7. Its not because he respects Kang that he allows him to continue talking in that way, its because he's found entertainment in him. Thats 2 different things. Like what you said he's a free spirit and being stuck in the castle has made him bored. Kang is a new source of entertainment for him.
8. Maybe obnoxious is too strong so i'll take it back. But he is nowhere near pleasant too. Forcing someone, to the point of ripping his clothes. And he wasnt given a choice, its just that he had no choice but to go to the palace. Because if he stayed, he doesnt know what will happen to his father. Where is the friendship in a relationship between an emperor who can do anything he wants and a subordinate who is brought to the palace to become said emperors entertainment. Tho i expect shifts in their dynamics in the future, some improvement since this is shounen ai and theyre bound to cross that line some time in the future. But right now that is what they are.
9. San has his good qualities. I never did say he didnt. Its just that i didnt mention it. There is no perfect ruler, each coin has a side. Perhaps all the flaws ive listed exists because he is a ruler. We can list all the good things about him but why should we ignore the flaws too?
tbh since they're the main characters sometimes I find myself ignoring the things the ML has done. yo tbh my honest opinion about him is that hes kind of trash. yeah this is historical and he has a wife and concubines and whatever but ,,, he really only thinks about what he wants, what a selfish dude. He has a child on the way and he doesnt look like he cares. Yeah he loves the MC or something but it feels more like infatuation you cant trust these historical trash MLs ... really ....
tbh since they're the main characters sometimes I find myself ignoring the things the ML has done. yo tbh my honest opinion about him is that hes kind of trash. yeah this is historical and he has a wife and co... dxdxd
That's a very immature opinion and exactly what I said is wrong with people deliberately misinterpreting this shit
1. Never compared to it other historical BLs. Where did I mention that?2. I compared it to modern times because the OP might be using modern times to compare as why he said San might be a psycho. 3. Forcing the... Anye1116
Wow it seems like you're hellbent on forcing your own perception on everything he does just to prove your point that he's a bad guy.
Firstly, I wasn't saying that you were the one comparing, instead the OP who was probably comparing this unknowingly to the other trashy historical BLs and their trashy semes - especially kings in it. Like silent lover or that palace of Bardo shit. San is nothing like them. He's not abusive for once.
Lmao what the fuck??? Forcing him to reveal who Kang was...he's a king. He didn't force Kang's father! That dude wasn't even their family, and he was being courteous even if you can't see it that way. He didn't torture him FOR FUCK'S SAKE! He only commanded it, and he didn't know he was divine???? He just thinks he's a stranger who appeared in his teachers house as his son randomly??? Of course he'll be suspicious! Not even suspicious, he could very well be worried. I don't think you understand what a crime it was to have secret family members unbeknownst to the crown. San doesn't follow any protocols, otherwise he would have tortured,punished and beheaded his way already, like they were all expecting him to do so. Open your eyes and read it properly.
As for his artsy concubine, I don't think you even remotely understand what it means for a prince to be born, especially from a concubine. Moreover, it's not that he hates her, but her father must be someone who wasn't on good terms with the king, and might use the prince to overthrow in the future. Use your brain please. As for his getting bored with her drawings, isn't that quite normal? He likes it, but he found Kang's drawings way too realistic and of course he's a divine being so she couldn't even compare. He doesn't mistreat her, so what's your issue?
Wow I can't believe how inaccurate you're being...ripped his clothes off? It was a sleeve???? It was an accident???? Staying the night??? He never did??? Lady chang's room, he'll go there??? He stopped to see if Kang was feeling homesick or was upset....wow are we reading the same story??? Also the point of Kang being his new entertainment, it's not like that. He did say that he wanted him to be near him so he doesn't have to go back and forth a lot whenever he calls for him, and he has given him a name, all on his own. To protect him in the palace ffs!
Kang's brother told him how dangerous it was to be in the palace without having a family to back you up, so King became his support. Of course it'll get him attention, that's why san is keeping an eye on him to make sure he isn't being mistreated.
If you hate this chatacter so much, don't read the story. You're obviously not keen on seeing anything he does for what it really is...
1. Never compared to it other historical BLs. Where did I mention that?2. I compared it to modern times because the OP might be using modern times to compare as why he said San might be a psycho. 3. Forcing the... Anye1116
Also ome more thing you're missing is that, kang DID make up his own mind on his own about going with him After san told him he could see many new things in the capital that he hasn't seen before, kang said it would be a good idea. Also once the king made sure his father wouldn't suffer even a bit because of him going, he was reassured. And also, he clarifies with the king if he was taking him only because he respects his art abilities...so as to not gave any funny ideas and san said yeah it's just because of that. You say he's only an entertainment to him, so why would he take him along to have a morning horse ride without any guards??? Do you know how against the norm that is?? Unles the emperor treated the other one as an equal??? And also before he gave him any kind of title, he asked him what he wanted to be in his palace, not forcing him to be anything stupid. Also he's hidden his art skills from everyone, so nobody would suspect his divine abilities or question his existence or trace back his origins to his father.
Stop assuming so much nonsense and read the story properly ffs. I can't believe how ridiculous the points you made were lol.
Also ome more thing you're missing is that, kang DID make up his own mind on his own about going with him After san told him he could see many new things in the capital that he hasn't seen before, kang said it ... shizu-chan
Can I ask you something?? Why are so work up about everything? All I did is expressed my opinion about the ML and why are you making it such a big deal? I get it that you love the ML so much but not everyone especially me have the same feelings about that and we all have a different perspective in life so shut up already you're just making everything worse.
And isn't the comment section about everyone's opinion about the story??? You could have just ignored my comment tho but you didn't instead YOU insulted me. Imagine you didn't even know me personally and you have the audacity to insult me because of my OPINION about your BELOVED ML.
Can I ask you something?? Why are so work up about everything? All I did is expressed my opinion about the ML and why are you making it such a big deal? I get it that you love the ML so much but not everyone es... Iwa-channn
This wasn't about you but ok. Go off, I guess. Nobody said you couldn't say your opinion, but you should at least read the story for what it is...I did ask you why you thought such negatively about the emperor though since there hasn't been anything to insinuate he's a toxic bad ML for now.
That's a very immature opinion and exactly what I said is wrong with people deliberately misinterpreting this shit shizu-chan
im not trying to be rude or anything but media is up to interpretation.. really.. Your interpretation isnt the final or more correct stance. I see things from a less-mature viewpoint apparently, and thats fine but I shared my opinion because thats how I see things.
This wasn't about you but ok. Go off, I guess. Nobody said you couldn't say your opinion, but you should at least read the story for what it is...I did ask you why you thought such negatively about the emperor ... shizu-chan
Yeah you did asked me but I answered you " whatever " to end the conversation however instead of ending the conversation you insulted me saying that I'm a close minded person. And like I said earlier we all have a different perspective in life. You have your own opinion and I also have mine but you insulted ME for having a different opinion that is not the same as you have. You could have just respect my opinion you know but you didn't and YOU insulted me.
im not trying to be rude or anything but media is up to interpretation.. really.. Your interpretation isnt the final or more correct stance. I see things from a less-mature viewpoint apparently, and thats fine... dxdxd
Alright. If you want to see it as it isn't written, go for it. The character isn't trash btw, if you really wanna read trash MLs, there are other historical BLs that really do have trash MLs. To put San in their category is just plain disrespectful and inaccurate. If you want to continue seeing him as the villain, go ahead.
Yeah you did asked me but I answered you " whatever " to end the conversation however instead of ending the conversation you insulted me saying that I'm a close minded person. And like I said earlier we all hav... Iwa-channn
I never called you anything like that lol. I said to ANOTHER person that some people read the story with their eyes and brain closed, as in not really reading the story at all for what it is written as...otherwise you wouldn't be thinking San was a trashy character when he hasn't done anything to warrant that criticism yet.
Yeah you did asked me but I answered you " whatever " to end the conversation however instead of ending the conversation you insulted me saying that I'm a close minded person. And like I said earlier we all hav... Iwa-channn
You called him Psycho and what not...and based on what exactly again? Did he rape the MC? Or torture him? Or tie him to the back of his carriage and dragged him without his consent??? Like what has he really done?? Enlighten us
Alright. If you want to see it as it isn't written, go for it. The character isn't trash btw, if you really wanna read trash MLs, there are other historical BLs that really do have trash MLs. To put San in thei... shizu-chan
I really dont see him as a villian. I just see him as trash person,, as in,.... I dont hate you but I look down on you for your actions so far. Im not stupid,,, I know there are trashier MLs but im talking abt this guy rn. I dont see how I could be 'disrespectful' to a literal 2d character but okay- I guess I can see how calling someone trash is disrespectful , but ... its almost as if.. It literally doesn't matter bc hes .. not real.. You think im villainizing him? Im sharing what I think of him as a character,, its not that deep bro.
Also ome more thing you're missing is that, kang DID make up his own mind on his own about going with him After san told him he could see many new things in the capital that he hasn't seen before, kang said it ... shizu-chan
I see that you love San very much so there's no point in having this conversation anymore. No matter what I say as long as its against San will not be tolerated by you. Ive reread this because as you said, i wasnt reading it the way it was supposed to be read (i dont know how you know how jts supposed to be read unless you're the author but ok i guess).
Literature is read by diff people so diff people will interpret it in different ways. There are trash MLs in a lot of other Historical BLs. Yes San is definitely better than them but that doesnt mean everyone should like him. I don't like his attitude and thats up to me as I am reading this work and I am interpreting it so stop taking it personally.
Am I the only one who don't like the emperor???? I feel like the emperor is kind of psycho or something and I wish that the emperor is not the ML because I know for sure our MC will suffer so much.
Yeah pretty sure it's just you. You need to read this with eyes open next time. (=・ω・=)
Whatever
Also if you can elaborate why you have such a bad impression of San, so enlighten us cause he hasn't shown even one thing that makes him a crazy psycho bitchass like you're claiming ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
I guess you don't know how to read !! And plz don't comments wrong things it's misleading to readers (● ̄(エ) ̄●)
Exactly... it's like they're reading with their eyes and brain closed lmaoo
Maybe not a psycho but obnoxious and self-centered. He's an emperor and maybe thats why. Everyone except Kang believes his word is the law which in our current time is definitely a big ass red flag.
There's nothing wrong with giving criticism to the ML. Thats what the comment section is for So dont let the other comments bother you.
Comparing this fictional historical story to current times is kinda funny. He's obnoxious and self-centred? Maybe at first, but I think he was stuck in an environment where he was being forced by everyone around him to act "proper" and he's been a free spirit since he was a kid (digging a hole just to escape the lessons) and even now he tries not to get suffocated in the royal bullshit - he doesn't look down on commoners, which is A VERY big deal for a king in that time. They're so far removed from reality that they won't ever dream of it. Moreover, he respects Kang to the point he doesn't allow him to act even a bit formal to him, and let's him talk however he wants to him. As for bringing him to the capital with him, he did it for his own interest true, but it wouldn't be called forcing Kang. He gave him a choice, explained it, said it would be fun to show him a world beyond his own small town, and also fulfilled all his wishes.
He kept him near him (for the art he said) but also for keeping a watchful eye on him to protect him from the political power struggles in the palace. So, seriously,I don't see what he has done to warrant this kind of ridiculous mpression, unless the reader themselves were blind.
If you're comparing this manhwa with other historical bullshit BLs which is plain disrespectful to the author and the story itself.
If he was "obnoxious and self-centred" he wouldn't be giving a shit about Kang to this point, and also he hasn't forced himself on it and treats him as a friend, rather than a subject. I honestly can't see how anyone is deliberately misinterpreting this as being toxic.
1. Never compared to it other historical BLs. Where did I mention that?
2. I compared it to modern times because the OP might be using modern times to compare as why he said San might be a psycho.
3. Forcing the Kang's Father's subordinate to find out who Kang is when his father was desperately hiding the truth for legit reasons aka fearing San will do something horrible to someone who is divinity. Because San closed all temples and disbanded every organization that had anything to do to temples. But of course he had to go force someone who basically had no choice but to tell him. Not because it could be a threat to his life but because he wanted to know.
4. Telling Lady Hee how boring her painting is when it was him who would go to her room and always ask for paintings or orchids. Yes Lady Hee is a bitch but women in the harem are cut throat because in order to survive, one must have the affection of the emperor (which is we all know historically accurate). His words and actions is what drives the actions of the concubine. I wont even start about leaving a pregnant lady behind without saying a word. Yes its a womb he doesnt like but that woman is still pregnant and potentially carrying a future heir.
5. Balance is what maintains the internal harem, he has influence on that balance but also cannot be interfering when trouble brews, like what he mentioned. That siding will Kang will aggravate the ladies more but he continues to openly show favor, staying with him when he has already announced going to Lady Chang's residence. Spending the night in Kang's room right after telling Lady Hee's drawing has gone boring. "Ive tasted something sweeter" is a line he used to describe why suddenly, Lady Hee isnt jn his favor anymore.
6. Which all goes back to what OP said, Kang might be in trouble not because of San's direct actions but because he's been doing what he wants which gives Kang unnecessary attention. When one becomes at the top, one gains a lot of responsibilities.
7. Its not because he respects Kang that he allows him to continue talking in that way, its because he's found entertainment in him. Thats 2 different things. Like what you said he's a free spirit and being stuck in the castle has made him bored. Kang is a new source of entertainment for him.
8. Maybe obnoxious is too strong so i'll take it back. But he is nowhere near pleasant too. Forcing someone, to the point of ripping his clothes. And he wasnt given a choice, its just that he had no choice but to go to the palace. Because if he stayed, he doesnt know what will happen to his father. Where is the friendship in a relationship between an emperor who can do anything he wants and a subordinate who is brought to the palace to become said emperors entertainment. Tho i expect shifts in their dynamics in the future, some improvement since this is shounen ai and theyre bound to cross that line some time in the future. But right now that is what they are.
9. San has his good qualities. I never did say he didnt. Its just that i didnt mention it. There is no perfect ruler, each coin has a side. Perhaps all the flaws ive listed exists because he is a ruler. We can list all the good things about him but why should we ignore the flaws too?
tbh since they're the main characters sometimes I find myself ignoring the things the ML has done. yo tbh my honest opinion about him is that hes kind of trash. yeah this is historical and he has a wife and concubines and whatever but ,,, he really only thinks about what he wants, what a selfish dude. He has a child on the way and he doesnt look like he cares. Yeah he loves the MC or something but it feels more like infatuation you cant trust these historical trash MLs ... really ....
That's a very immature opinion and exactly what I said is wrong with people deliberately misinterpreting this shit
Wow it seems like you're hellbent on forcing your own perception on everything he does just to prove your point that he's a bad guy.
Firstly, I wasn't saying that you were the one comparing, instead the OP who was probably comparing this unknowingly to the other trashy historical BLs and their trashy semes - especially kings in it. Like silent lover or that palace of Bardo shit. San is nothing like them. He's not abusive for once.
Lmao what the fuck??? Forcing him to reveal who Kang was...he's a king. He didn't force Kang's father! That dude wasn't even their family, and he was being courteous even if you can't see it that way. He didn't torture him FOR FUCK'S SAKE! He only commanded it, and he didn't know he was divine???? He just thinks he's a stranger who appeared in his teachers house as his son randomly??? Of course he'll be suspicious! Not even suspicious, he could very well be worried. I don't think you understand what a crime it was to have secret family members unbeknownst to the crown. San doesn't follow any protocols, otherwise he would have tortured,punished and beheaded his way already, like they were all expecting him to do so. Open your eyes and read it properly.
As for his artsy concubine, I don't think you even remotely understand what it means for a prince to be born, especially from a concubine. Moreover, it's not that he hates her, but her father must be someone who wasn't on good terms with the king, and might use the prince to overthrow in the future. Use your brain please. As for his getting bored with her drawings, isn't that quite normal? He likes it, but he found Kang's drawings way too realistic and of course he's a divine being so she couldn't even compare. He doesn't mistreat her, so what's your issue?
Wow I can't believe how inaccurate you're being...ripped his clothes off? It was a sleeve???? It was an accident???? Staying the night??? He never did??? Lady chang's room, he'll go there??? He stopped to see if Kang was feeling homesick or was upset....wow are we reading the same story???
Also the point of Kang being his new entertainment, it's not like that. He did say that he wanted him to be near him so he doesn't have to go back and forth a lot whenever he calls for him, and he has given him a name, all on his own. To protect him in the palace ffs!
Kang's brother told him how dangerous it was to be in the palace without having a family to back you up, so King became his support. Of course it'll get him attention, that's why san is keeping an eye on him to make sure he isn't being mistreated.
If you hate this chatacter so much, don't read the story. You're obviously not keen on seeing anything he does for what it really is...
Also ome more thing you're missing is that, kang DID make up his own mind on his own about going with him
After san told him he could see many new things in the capital that he hasn't seen before, kang said it would be a good idea. Also once the king made sure his father wouldn't suffer even a bit because of him going, he was reassured. And also, he clarifies with the king if he was taking him only because he respects his art abilities...so as to not gave any funny ideas and san said yeah it's just because of that.
You say he's only an entertainment to him, so why would he take him along to have a morning horse ride without any guards??? Do you know how against the norm that is?? Unles the emperor treated the other one as an equal??? And also before he gave him any kind of title, he asked him what he wanted to be in his palace, not forcing him to be anything stupid. Also he's hidden his art skills from everyone, so nobody would suspect his divine abilities or question his existence or trace back his origins to his father.
Stop assuming so much nonsense and read the story properly ffs. I can't believe how ridiculous the points you made were lol.
Can I ask you something?? Why are so work up about everything? All I did is expressed my opinion about the ML and why are you making it such a big deal? I get it that you love the ML so much but not everyone especially me have the same feelings about that and we all have a different perspective in life so shut up already you're just making everything worse.
And isn't the comment section about everyone's opinion about the story??? You could have just ignored my comment tho but you didn't instead YOU insulted me. Imagine you didn't even know me personally and you have the audacity to insult me because of my OPINION about your BELOVED ML.
This wasn't about you but ok. Go off, I guess. Nobody said you couldn't say your opinion, but you should at least read the story for what it is...I did ask you why you thought such negatively about the emperor though since there hasn't been anything to insinuate he's a toxic bad ML for now.
yeah ik... thats how i interpret it... i really will not stop feeling this way until more of the story unfolds
im not trying to be rude or anything but media is up to interpretation.. really.. Your interpretation isnt the final or more correct stance. I see things from a less-mature viewpoint apparently, and thats fine but I shared my opinion because thats how I see things.
Yeah you did asked me but I answered you
" whatever " to end the conversation however instead of ending the conversation you insulted me saying that I'm a close minded person. And like I said earlier we all have a different perspective in life. You have your own opinion and I also have mine but you insulted ME for having a different opinion that is not the same as you have. You could have just respect my opinion you know but you didn't and YOU insulted me.
Alright. If you want to see it as it isn't written, go for it. The character isn't trash btw, if you really wanna read trash MLs, there are other historical BLs that really do have trash MLs. To put San in their category is just plain disrespectful and inaccurate. If you want to continue seeing him as the villain, go ahead.
I never called you anything like that lol. I said to ANOTHER person that some people read the story with their eyes and brain closed, as in not really reading the story at all for what it is written as...otherwise you wouldn't be thinking San was a trashy character when he hasn't done anything to warrant that criticism yet.
You called him Psycho and what not...and based on what exactly again? Did he rape the MC? Or torture him? Or tie him to the back of his carriage and dragged him without his consent??? Like what has he really done?? Enlighten us
I really dont see him as a villian. I just see him as trash person,, as in,.... I dont hate you but I look down on you for your actions so far. Im not stupid,,, I know there are trashier MLs but im talking abt this guy rn. I dont see how I could be 'disrespectful' to a literal 2d character but okay- I guess I can see how calling someone trash is disrespectful , but ... its almost as if.. It literally doesn't matter bc hes .. not real.. You think im villainizing him? Im sharing what I think of him as a character,, its not that deep bro.
I see that you love San very much so there's no point in having this conversation anymore. No matter what I say as long as its against San will not be tolerated by you. Ive reread this because as you said, i wasnt reading it the way it was supposed to be read (i dont know how you know how jts supposed to be read unless you're the author but ok i guess).
Literature is read by diff people so diff people will interpret it in different ways. There are trash MLs in a lot of other Historical BLs. Yes San is definitely better than them but that doesnt mean everyone should like him. I don't like his attitude and thats up to me as I am reading this work and I am interpreting it so stop taking it personally.