Luna's Topics (390)

I don't think you get this story.
1. He helped his father , his soldiers and his territory with his dreams. That 's why he became so precious for his people. But then his father wanted to give him to the enemy and even wanted to kill him.
2. If you dreamt yourself die, would you tell your lover that you will die? Bcos I won't do that. It will make him sad and desperate before it happens. I believe he will do the best for himself after I die, no matter what he will do.
3. He did not kill himself. He was shot from the back.

His Father didn't want him dead, knowing you are to be killed but doing nothing to stop it and not telling anyone when they know you can see the future is selfish, and not telling his lover he had been hit which lets himself die is letting himself die. He let himself die.
The uke was selfish. He could have run off the seme and been done with it all, but no he let himself die causing a lot of pain for others.

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/matsugo_no_yume/an/matsugo-no-yume-chapter-1.html/17/
It's his own father who wanted him to die. He wanted the uke to be died bcos he did not want that his enemy would win over the war with the power of the uke had. So he sent burglars to attack his group.

The seme and the uke ran away but they were attacked.

I think it's realistic to not let other people see that you are suffering and of course we can not escape from death. The uke saw his death in his dream but they still tried to escape, even if he did not tell his seme, I still think that he was trying to escape his fate and was trying to live happily, even it's so short.

Perhaps we (you and I) just don't stand on the same point of view so we have different opinion :)

That's understandable.

... the way I saw it was the uke traded places with seme, since it was the sword that protected him.

Also if you see the future and change it, it is no longer the 'future' so maybe the uke didn't see his demise only the seme's.

That is a good theory. But still not telling the seme he was hit was cruel. Because it's clear he died not long after the seme walked away.

yeah, he should have said something, I just don't know if that would have helped, but I'm sure the seme would chose to fallow, but would still want to be w/ him for his last moments.

Oh yeah I totally believe that the seme killed himself after finding the uke dead. But then the uke didn't seem to mind at all at the end. Really I just hate these Selfish death. Just because one can do something and feels better off dead but hides it. Then they fall in love and they make their partner who loves them and wants to protect them happy, only to secretly and selfishly keep saying to themselves that they are going to let themselves die. And when they do willingly, even sometimes in front of their partner, is still so selfish because you can't say you were really in love with their partner if after they die the partner kills them self and the selfish on sheds no tears knowing their actions just killed someone else.
It's so hard to explain my issue with out sounding strange, forgive me if I'm confusing you.

Nah. ^^ I understand. I also I understand the character that sacrifices themselves so their loved one doesn't die.... though ^^' that in itself is very contradictory cause they did the EXACT same thing they didn't want their lover to do.

But if its done right it can tug my heart strings ..>< and some times I need a good cry. I prefer the ones that protect their lover but pull through, they don't give up living.

my favorite (as long as u don't mind something not yaoi) is From Far Away, supernatural, action, adventure and romance to perfection (good comedic scenes too!)

but the yaoi I really recommend is http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hanaya_no_nikai_de/ it has great depth, and I feel like crying at the depth, but there's really no sacrificing. I mean they protect each other in their own ways, physically and emotionally ^^

My exact feelings.

I think because Shirotani was such a resurved child he felt uncomfortable ? Plus, he was extremely attached to his father... The shock, plus feeling the immense guilt... Is probably what kept him quiet ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Very possible. It seems very logical. But I still feel like perhaps there was something more, perhaps I'm just thinking to hard.

Shiratoni must be feeling a sense of disgust towards himself. Thats why he doesn't let anyone touch him and clean his hands abruptly to disappear "germs." One possible reason Shiratoni didn't told his father might be due to the feeling of guilt. He felt that he was disgusting when he masturbated from the sexual scene he saw between his father and that slutty girl. And also the fact that that stupid girl called him disgusting. What that f*** girl did was just horrendous. Why would she do that? She must have psychological issues to traumatized a little kid and try to compete for the father's love.

I was talking about Shiratoni telling his Father the the girl said that him loving his father was disgusting, that happened before the other scene. Personally speaking if I was the way I was as a kid then I know that I'd tell my parent what really happened, and I'd jump out of that closet and dragged that bitch by the hair off my Father. I'd get rid of her fast or if my father refused to listen I'm off to my Grandparents who I'd tell everything too and they would so haul off on him later. I gotta stop coming up with idea's for stories when reading Yaoi I want to alter.

-.- "shiratoni"??? shirotani maybe....

Opps! Missed a letter!

I also searched for the pictures because I thought the same thing and the fiance girl has her front covered by a frindge so maybe she is hiding her third eye in the photo

I'm thinking the photo was taken before the time skip and before she got her powers. So many theory's going around. Only Oda-sensei can give us this much suspense that it's killing us.