Okay, if I’m missing something, please remind me, but the original I found has equally bad if not worse translations? In fact, I reread this one because the translations made more sense. Does everyone just have collective amnesia and want to bully this new translator, or is there a truly better translation that is neither this one or the other one?
The only other translation that exists of this is on webtoon, the official (but censored version) and I’m not sure if someone has ripped that off of webtoon just to post it here as well but aside from that, the two translations that do exist here are equally as bad (because they’re machine translations afaik). Most people that I’ve seen complaining here are mentioning the unnecessary reupload of the same series despite the translations not being any better overall (though the other one here is one chapter ahead)
For anyone wondering, this comic is on Webtoon and shows up as being on a temporary hiatus. Jujucat is waiting for the officials to start being released again on the official app/website
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the way they fooled me w the new cover. straight up recoiled like i’d been slapped when i realized what it was
So sorry to bother, but does anybody know why the character designs in the official translation is different from the raws?
Haters complained that the actor was ugly to be a star(dark skin tone, and manly features) so the author redraw everything with the Korean beauty standards (delicate features and pale white skin)
The guy was supposed to be a quarterback and now look like a idol with a cute concept
omg thank you sm, that helped a lot! :) i’m actually rlly pissed off now, cause i hadn’t read this in a while to let the officials catch up. it’s upsetting ppl can be so judgmental and internally racially biased. i understand korean beauty standards, but that doesn’t mean everyone around the globe or in south korea agrees w them. the bias in BL is rlly frustrating as well, how the characters always have to look the same. i was just telling my twin that in the og he looked like an original character w an interesting design, but the redraw makes him look like every other character in BLs recently.
thank you again, that was so helpful :(
not to mention he was actually so good looking and his description matched his looks so well. he looks like a quarterback (like you said) and his features rlly helped the whole angel facade he has. the second design almost looks unbelievable; he wouldn’t fool me for a second lolol this is such a big fiasco.. :,)
Author was probably totally passed too
Author was probably totally pissed too
Where could I see the raws? I would like to see the design differences.
the easiest way to see the design change would probably just be looking at fan translations here! the first few chapters uploaded here have his old design, and it slowly changes (skin tone morphs to be lighter slowly and features slowly morph to be more feminine) until the end of the first season (original fan translations). the official released translations (which are posted further down) are redrawn from the beginning. the easiest way to look at the difference between the two is by looking at the two different first chapters :) his new design gets better as the first season progresses and the second starts, but in the beginning it looks pretty funny lol i suggest reading the fan translations for the first season bc they’re done very well, and read season two from the official releases ^^
the raws are slightly harder to find and would require you to leave mangago which usually leads to risk of viruses!
Thank you very much for your kind reply! (´- `*) Now that you mention it, I see the differences between the first chapters and the new ones. I thought it was a natural change of the art style and such but to be the reason due to complaints! ! It's a real shame because the original design looks much better to me : /
a total fucking turn off for the story (not sexual). why do they always have to say “like a woman”, “make you a woman” and etc?? are women just sexual objects to you bastards? what in the ever living fuck is wrong with you. this is why most bl makes me so angry, males are always referred to as females for no reason other than assigning a gender to a sexual position, setting up a power dynamic and objectifying women. fuck this shit, even if i found myself somehow even slightly liking the plot (which i didn’t), the amount of times women were done dirty has pissed me off passed the point of no return.
ikr this is why sometimes i don't like reading bl's anymore. and even i'm a girl myself i sometimes feel ashamed that most people always see girls/women as a breeding machine or a weakling. and when a female can accomplish something big most will say "you're just a girl but you can even do this and that". most look down on females and it makes me furious.
I agree!!! I also don't like the uke/seme stereotypes where it's so obvious the uke is supposed to be "the woman" in the relationship and have the (oftentimes negative) characteristics they associate with women.
I think we've all seen the shy, meek, blushing, innocent, submissive and subservient uke. Alternatively the promiscuous one that that have lots of sex, although never in an empowering way and almost always in a destructive, self-degrading way. An actual talented, successful, powerful and kind uke is extremely hard to come by. If they are powerful they are almost always somehow evil or have slept their way to the top. As if implying that women can't or shouldn't be in position of power, and if they are they of course have used their bodies to get there or they are bad people and need to be punished (sometimes sexually).
Honestly, the negative way women are portrayed is one of the reasons I stopped reading straight romance stories, but the stereotypes are still there, just put one the uke instead of the woman.
Another thing about the sex itself is that the uke's erogenous zones are made to correlate to women's. I don't have a problem with them liking their nipples and butt touched but sometime's it's as if their dick don't even exist (oftentimes very small as well). I mean the amount of ukes giving blowjobs to semes are overwhelmingly more common than semes giving it to ukes. Also tying into the stereotype that women should please and go down on men without expecting getting anything in return. That's how it often is I guess but it doesn't make me any happier reading about it.
The whole mpreg trend that is getting more and more popular is just the icing of the cake of making the ukes more like women. Honestly I find it pretty weird but for each their own. And it's not like I dislike all mpreg stories, I absolutely love some of them, although I can generally go without the pregnancies and children. Then again I'm not very interested in pregnancies in straight romances either. I can understand why they do it though. Going by the comment sections most people love it. And it enables them to have a more "complete" family. It kinda circumvents the problems actual gay people face though. Personally I think it could be interesting to see them opt for adoption or something else instead but so far I don't think I've seen it.
About actual women in BL they are often portrayed badly. For example the seductress trying to get the seme, in which case her sexuality is generally portrayed in an immoral light. I've seen the seme even slut-shaming her to her face, like "I won't sleep with a bitch that opens her legs for anyone". Another thing I've seen sometimes is that the seme is having sex with a woman and treats her badly as a way of showing us readers how much he's into the uke. Like the woman giving him a bj and he just pushes her aside and leaves (because the uke is better). Still very rude!
Sorry for looooooong rant ahaha. I've just noticed these things a lot lately and it really annoys me.
ah shit, to the two of you who replied, i’m very sorry! i edited the comment and the replies got deleted. very sorry about that. still, i agreed with you both very much. thanks for your replies :)
ah, a glitch, now i’m embarrassed lolol
This!!! Oh my god I don't think I could've said it better than you, this is something that pisses me off so much about yaoi! It's not only disrespectful and shitty towards women, it's shitty towards gay people as well. And although it is true that with some gay couples the same person will bottom most of the time because they prefer it, that isn't always the case. But in yaoi, ofc the same person always has to bottom because they are "the women" and someone in that role can't be on top. I try not to let it piss me off too much but when so many stories have the same harmful negative tropes it pisses me off (don't even get me started in the r*pe trope). Like it really wouldn't be that bad if this was stuff in just a handful of yaoi but the fact that it really is like 90% of what you'll find is frustrating.
This!!! Oh my god I don't think I could've said it better than you, this is something that pisses me off so much about yaoi! It's not only disrespectful and shitty towards women, it's shitty towards gay people as well. And although it is true that with some gay couples the same person will bottom most of the time because they prefer it, that isn't always the case. But in yaoi, ofc the same person always has to bottom because they are "the women" and someone in that role can't be on top. I try not to let it piss me off too much but when so many stories have the same harmful negative tropes it pisses me off (don't even get me started in the r*pe trope). Like it really wouldn't be that bad if this was stuff in just a handful of yaoi but the fact that it really is like 90% of what you'll find is frustrating.
Why is everyone claiming the NPCs know it’s a game? Like, based on the history episode we got, all they know is that rulers are bestowed to them from a higher power, and they have the right to assassinate them if they do a poor job. Their loyalty to this ruler is because, despite being clueless in the beginning, they have immense power once educated. So, to clear it up, the grand duke doesn’t know he is real and has responsibilities… that’s why he hated the ragtag team in the beginning. Wouldn’t you be pretty upset if your king corrupted all of you (to become “dirty half-breeds”) and then disappeared like a kicked puppy when you told him you were upset? Duke thinks he ran away in game, cause he doesn’t know he has another life. He threatened to kill the friends cause it was like a jealous anger of “wow, so you ruined our lives to play house with these punks?” Duke even tried to tank their empire in MCs absence so they could get another king. I am still angry with him, there’s no reason to abuse him so much, but I definitely understand his distrust and anger. The MC can’t say “I logged out, how was I supposed to know your lives kept going.” He’d sound crazy. The only worldly explanation is that he cowardly ran away.
We and the main characters can be upset about their reactions. Hell, MC even said, “Why do our dukes act like this just because we left. Why can’t they just say they missed us.” But, that is an error. Them being transported to this reality in itself suggests these “NPCs” are real and have real people emotions. Have had real people emotions. AKA, you can’t expect them not to act like humans do. They are allowed to be unreasonable. They are “human.” We and the main characters struggle to understand that because we are still under this pretense that they are “not human.” But, realistically, if one soldier cultivated a garden for his king, imagine what the rest of them did to handle the inner turmoil in his absence. Especially after they thought they’d finally got a good king.
Like, the duke doesn’t know he left to the real world, for all he knows some guy he was already suspicious of just confessed to him after ruining his life, and then disappeared (into the forest, to another kingdom, who knows) when he didn’t hear something good back.
I definitely think the world building could be much better— I’d love to know why the celestials dislike dark celestials or half breeds so much, or just how big this world is. That said, though, each panel is like a mural in itself, I can’t imagine the amount of work necessary to further the plot and give us some world building.
Other things:
I don’t think the MC is weak. I mean, he is constantly ill because of a certain someone, but that aside, I’d argue he’s cautious. The guy has never used game mechanics irl, wouldn’t you be scared moving from 3rd person to real 1st person all of a sudden? And, he could die for real at any given moment if he fails. He subconsciously feels dependent on the others, who have always felt this sense of responsibility in the game (the NPCs). We’ve seen him pick fights with others, so we know he has guts.
Also, I think it’s valuable to have “trust and loyalty” with your kingdom. I don’t think it is “Mary sue” behavior. Like he told the fish Olympic swimmer guy, being strong and being strong to protect something is different. His NPCs buffs likely got higher thanks to his relationship with them. His army fights harder. I definitely think the soldier that would lay their life on the line for the king would beat the soldier just waiting for their lunch break.
Also, there hasn’t been forty something kings, there have been about 6. Each king can be assassinated 6 times, hence the dramatic number of assassination (forty something). The MC was assassinated 3/6 times, so he has only 3 lives remaining.
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