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yoshino in chapter 17.6: listen, if you're going to do it, you have to do it without letting anyone know about it. do it with the intentions to kill. and if you can't do that, then you might as well drop dead there. I'll put the money down to clean up the place. all i have to do is melt the bodies down to nothing, right?
me & kirishima: i was born to love this fucking woman.
there are several points being made on this on fire trash can called the comment section, but one thing has to be made clear: we don't know how well MD has communicated with Chanwoo about the limits and rules and expectations of their plays. MD and Chanwoo might just have an agreement on what to expect of each other's personalities while in a scene (e.x. MD can be violent while using the traffic light system with different agreed upon terms in a scene, etc.) because they aren't the main couple here we can never actually know just how well they've talked out everything in their relationship as dom and sub.
be that as it may, one thing has to be clear, the way MD is going about allowing his own emotions and prejudices to lead a scene is TOXIC. him not having a full conversation (that we know of and that has yet to be clued about in the comic) with Chanwoo about where their relationship will go after being rejected is not right and can lead to a miscommunication that can lead to someone getting hurt. as the dom he has a responsibility to ensure that every aspect of their relationship as dom/sub is communicated effectively to avoid any misunderstandings, the fact that he hasn't done so (that we know of) is wrong of him.
you're right... he shouldn't be so stubborn, but then again i feel like all new, eager subs are like that when they're first going into the scene. they don't really know they're limits, all they know is that kink does it for them but they don't know how far it can go. dom's should be there to lead them through it, by setting rules and limits in place to ensure that they're constantly communicating and making sure that lines aren't being crossed.
but as for the new sub? i feel like MD dropped him for a reason... he's sooo....... sus
wow I agree, some people are saying it’s bdsm and I agree but I’m like did Chanwoo get a consent that he was gonna kiss the guy? Like Chanwoo seems like he didn’t want it if it was just me and ion know if the slap seems to personal ? I mean Chanwoo must been through a harsh time to find partners fast but people are defending MD for his actions and saying Chanwoo deserved it but let’s not forget MD knows about Chanwoo exes not Chanwoo past but just his Exes
wow, that's so important and something i completely forgot to even think about: the new guys inability to ask for consent! you're so right to think about that because the dude has no idea what Chanwoo's rules/limits even are. how is the new guy meant to even respect them when he has no idea what they are? and MD is just forcing Chanwoo to go along with it?
i'm pissedt
yeah and I feel like Chanwoo “scared” to say no? Idk but I feel like he doesn’t want his pride to taken down and yes Chanwoo can say no but he doesn’t want too, Chanwoo look mad uncomfortable with the kiss, he been through abusive relationship and BdSM is kinda not really because abusive is the person keep beating you or hurting you without stopping and BDSm beats you and shit but you have pleasure and you can say stop, and in BDSM both of y’all agree to it
no it isn't fear, Chan never said no in their play! EVER! he never uses the safe word no matter what MD did! and yeas it is his problem and until he learns to say the safe word he will NEVER learn and will keep going to abusers and people that will use him.
why did Chan never change until NOW?! why can't he put limits even in his romantic partners??! Chan has a problem, it's not MD fault but it is still a problem.
can’t you understand???? that people who have traumas can’t sometimes say “no” because they don’t understand the gravity of the situation? example, Chanwoo can’t understand that MD was dangerously strangling him and won’t use the safeword! so Md used itinstead, I have seen you around, you blatant GASLIGHTING is alarming
i dont think you understand my point? If you were a victim of abuse you still have trauma in your life theres clearly something that happened to him for him wanting to find a partner so bad its like being desperate for someone trying to "love" you. MD told them to kiss, the new kid just kissed without asking Chanwoo for a consent, and when Chanwoo push away, MD smacked him and said if you dont want to do it leave, the look of Chanwoo face he clearly didnt want to do it, but he said he would do it anyway, when it looks like he didnt (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ and what if Chanwoo never learn to say no? and he keeps getting hurt and MD knows this?? I think there both at faults, MD not always gonna do the right choices and i think you should see it because if you were a victim of abuse you know its hard and whatever happen to Chanwoo past it must be traumatic
i wish we had seen a little more growth when it comes to karlyle's ability to voice his damn thoughts. i swear, half the time i was reading this, i was screaming "fucking say it out loud! say it!!!!!!"